back to article Ditch Chef, Puppet, Splunk and snyk for GitLab? That's the pitch from your new wannabe one-stop DevOps shop

"We want GitLab monitoring to be a complete replacement for DataDog," GitLab's director of product, Eric Brinkman, said yesterday. And he didn't stop there, referring to a whole swathe of "tools that GitLab can replace" at the firm's Commit event in London. Around 300 or so developers attended the day at an 18th-century …

  1. DontFeedTheTrolls


    I got all the buzzwords first!

    1. stiine Silver badge


      You must have the one card that doesn't contain the word 'synergy'. That's the only one I'm missing.

      edit: speelingg

  2. Zimmer

    In an 18th century brewery ..

    I hope everything was organised properly.....

  3. cschneid


    [Sijbrandij:] "It is not so much that applications get moved, because that's super costly. But you could say all new applications will be on a different cloud from now."

    And thus it was acknowledged that IT shops must encompass the skill sets to indefinitely drag the baggage of applications developed for what previous generations thought was to be the one and only platform, each with its own quirks and foibles, never actually migrating to a single underpinning, forever dealing with integrations reliant on tenuous agreements and bits of string,

    Just like their ancestors, victims of management decrees. "All new systems will be built in PL/I." "All new systems will be built with a client/server architecture." "All new systems will target OS/2 as the client." "All new systems will be web based." "All new systems will be cloud based." "All new systems will target AWS." And so on and so forth, ad infinitum, from now until the end of time, world without end, forever and ever.

    1. Reg Reader 1

      Re: Santayana

      Ah, man

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    All they need to do is provide something that works without the horrific complexity of using the current options which are traditionally open source in having to edit multiple text files or even learn to program in Ruby to use!

    Just look at Microsoft's Dev Ops and configuration management tools for a better way for instance.

    1. theOtherJT Silver badge

      Or looked at another way the simplicity of working with simple file based structure in a widely known language saves me the complexity of having to learn another proprietary tool set...

      Horses for courses and all that.

  5. DatacenterDweller

    Sounds great

    Yet things didn't get complex as they are for no reason.

    1. Groaning Ninny

      Re: Sounds great

      And so... are you saying that reason is obviated or continued by GitLab's approach?

    2. Brewster's Angle Grinder Silver badge

      Re: Sounds great

      But sometimes things are only complicated because nobody has tidied them up.

      Software can end up like a matryoshka doll with layer built upon layer built upon layer. Each layer is constrained by the one below it, probably includes convoluted hacks to work around the limitations of the lower layers, and introduces quirks and deficiencies of its own. Removing some of intermediate layers can often reduce complexity, improve performance and eliminate bugs.

      Likewise, when you end up with a ragtag bag of libraries and tools they often have a lot of overlap that can be deduplicated. You don't have to go all SystemD to realise even giving them a consistent interface can make things simpler. (I just removed a bug where two libraries were using two subtly different coordinate systems and nobody had noticed.)

  6. vir


    Where's that XKCD on how standards multiply?


  7. TeeCee Gold badge

    "In that press cycle we got 23 per cent share voice..."

    Unfortunately for him, if there's one thing that's guaranteed to make good developers lose interest and go somewhere else it's wankspik bullshit like that.

    1. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge

      Brexit means BrexitDevOps means DevOps

      Let's Get Brexit DoneLet's Get DevOps Done

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