back to article Avaya considering tie-up with RingCentral to save it from fire sale – report

Troubled telecoms provider Avaya has hit pause on plans to find a buyer amid reports it may enter into a joint venture with videoconferencing provider RingCentral instead. The business, which emerged from bankruptcy two years ago, put itself up for sale earlier this year after a particularly bad set of Q2 results. However, …

  1. CJatCTi

    Dinosaur Faces Extinction

    In the old days with hardware based system you could still get pard from the 2nd hand market, Now with things being all requires licences.

    And when Avaya are gone, there will be a lot of systems that won't be able to expand as they will be no more licence.

    1. Charlie Clark Silver badge

      Re: Dinosaur Faces Extinction

      Can we have that in English please?

      1. CJatCTi
        FAIL

        Re: Dinosaur Faces Extinction

        In the old days phone systems like other things where all hardware. The company stopped making them and you could keep things going / expand it via the second-hand market.

        Avaya IP Office customers have kit controlled by licences on an SD card, you want more IP phones, IP trunks, you need licences on that SD card to allow them to work.

        No Avaya - No new licences - No changes to your system.

        Your SD card fails, no licence transfer to new SD card, no phone system

        Why continue to invest in an Avaya system as when they go you can’t add any more extensions even though you have the phone in your hand? Customers are going to cut and run.

        You want a licence today Avaya will say you must upgrade to the latest firmware and pay £££ for no new feature that you need.

        Phone systems easily last 10 years plus, it’s a good time to move on…

        Who were the big beasts? Nortel - Mitel - Avaya

        Nortel - BT preferred supplier for years, gone, Avaya got some of the bits

        Avaya - Until One Phone BTs preferred supplier about to go

        Mitel - delisted from the stock market after continuing losses and reaching share price low

        So possibly I put the “s” on the wrong place - Dinosaurs Face Extinction

        1. tip pc Silver badge

          Re: Dinosaur Faces Extinction

          More and more vendors building cheap powerful hardware with annual licenses being the income stream. Virtualisation is squeezing ever more hardware income too. Do you want an expensive hardware firewall or lots of smaller capacity virtual ones for the same price.

        2. NeilPost

          Re: Dinosaur Faces Extinction

          What about BT Cloud voice - based on Polycom Hardware.... though garbage.

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