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Facebook has been asked to explain "direct contradictions" in its testimony to the UK Parliament in light of new information revealed in a complaint from the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) last week. In a letter [PDF] sent from the chair of the Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee, Damian Collins, to former …
My guess would be that the downvoters read
> just like the rest of the Libdems.
and recognised that Hartley is likely talking out of his arse.
Clegg's Lib Dems were years ago now, and there've been multiple changes in both leadership and membership.
Not to mention it does seem a little unfair to single out the Lib Dems, rather than also pointing out we've got the worst of Tory bastards in senior Government positions, and Labour's a complete and utter shit-show too, and lets not mention the company that calls itself The Brexit Party, complete with a leader who can't be deposed and lies more easily than he shits.
I mean, I downvoted for the first reason - particularly as the Lib Dems are the only party that seem to be serious about trying to stop Brexit now that it's clear what an absolutely astoundingly fucking stupid idea it is.
"They offer a free service, they have costs (big ones) and yet, on the paper, they don't have revenue from the users ..."
So the users are the product...it's not exactly a secret considering how frequently it's mentioned by commentards.
Facebooks real problem is that so many of their attempts at business models based on their user data have been unsuccessful until they discovered that very little of the value (from a revenue perspective) is in the actual user details and instead in the content that the users provide (often stolen from other sources). The YouTube business model...
That's not an attempt at defend ANY of Facebooks practices, more an attempt to match their "success" with their revenue.
Ah this is where we are all wrong: Facebook never lies, they just tell everyone their version of the truth. Presumably they are hoping that if they say it often enough and with the appropriate amount of gravitas and sincerity that it will become the truth.
What appears to be happening is that regulatory and government bodies are not being taken into by the Facebook version of The Truth any longer and have reviewed it for what it is, a load of bare-faced lies.
It's what soshulist meeja is all about. It's designed to support soshulism. In soshulism, only the rich minority Party elite may enjoy the fruits of the proles' labours. Two legs better than four, Nineteen Eighty-four and all that. The masses must be kept stupid and entertained. Soshulism is Evil, which is why of course Facebook, Twitter, Insta, et al are busy making money from making stupid people even dumber... lolz fne catz looool m8
The second greatest lie Humanity has foisted upon itself (after religion, of course), is that owning a mobile phone and a 'free' social media account somehow adds value to an utterly worthless opinion.
But that's just my utterly worthless opinion, though not expressed via telephone. For what it's worth...
Looks like you don't get out much and/or are young and rather gullible.
It was obvious from back when Uncle Joe took over in Russia that Marxism was a convenient smokescreen for yet another military dictatorship and its secret police. The same dictatorship is still in control both there and in what was Mao's China: all that's changed in both places is that the smokescreen now has a passing resemblance to democracy.
If you didn't already know this, then a visit to Czechoslovakia in the late '80s when Solidarity was in the process of booting the Polish Communist Party out of power would have spelt that out in block capitals.
The increasing spread of Solidarity in Poland meant that the poor bloody East Germans, who used to be able to visit Poland or Czechoslovakia on their summer hols, could now only visit Czechoslovakia. I was there at the time, camping with some mates, so we met a lot of young East Germans who were also camping. They were all well educated, friendly and spoke good English and, of course, we compared notes with them. There was one theme we kept hearing, which summarises as:
"Of course we understand Marxism because we had to study it at school. It sounds wonderful: we just wish we had it".
In other words, the 'socialist' bit of USSR was always a lie: its just ironic that many of their citizens were well-enough educated to understand this.
Ever wondered why "socialism" always ends up as an ogliarchy
Same reason as capitalism usually ends up as an oligarchy - human nature. No matter what the window dressing, people are people. And amoral and unethical people will end up at the top of any political system and profit from the misfortunes of others.
When you are at the bottom of the heap, the words that the top tier use to oppress don't matter much and the boot on your neck has the same sole regardless of whether it has a hammer and sickle or a bald eagle stamped on it.
The quantum nature of Truth allow for the simultaneous truth and falsehood of any given statement until it is detected. From the point of origin infinite Virtual Truths and Virtual Lies follow every possible path to get to the recipient. Attempting to determine the Truth changes the Truth. At times Truth is entangled and finding the Truth in one location will change the Truth in another, which is what happened here. Therefore attempting to to examine the Truth or Lies of Zuck will either yield an exact Word Count or a determination of Truth with no object.
This is the second time I've seen one of his posts made from another ID, he's infecting the other AIs in El Reg's comment board. Or at least I hope redpawn is an AI, if he's human then we all have cause to worry! This is how Skynet begins, not with a nuclear explosion but with contagious confusion.
The quantum of truth is, of course, the iota.
As in "There's not one iota of truth in that." Or "Beneath all the blather there is an iota of truth."
By a special application of Pauli's exclusion principle only one iota of truth can exist in any location. Two truths in close proximity will result in mutual annihilation causing irreversible confusion of the facts.
Exactly. I don't totally disagree with the concept of a 'Public Cost Duty Allowance' given that it's not really possible for someone who held such a position to get a job in Tesco in later life, however, may I suggest that any such payment should be means-tested? Only seems fair!
Actually I am. I am amazed at the stupidity that Facebook consistently shows by imagining that it can lie continually and never get caught.
Especially that, this time, Facebook was lying to two different sets of people about the same thing, and nobody thought to present the same lies ?
I expect a 12-year old to be that dumb, not a corporation with lawyers on its payroll.
I agree with you entirely but the sad thing is most of its users do not give a damn about all the lies. Facebook has become a de facto utility, a lot of people depend on it to keep in touch with family and "friends" and as all the shenanigans are hidden away a lot of them are blissfully unaware of all the nastiness.
Many of people do not like their water, electricity or ISP providers but in a lot of cases they are stuck with what they have and is there a viable alternative to Facebook for these poor souls?
It's not about getting caught, it's about what happens when you get caught. FB have realized that no matter how much they break the laws and how many times they break their promises not to do it again, absolutely nothing will happen to them. See how their stock price jumped when they were issued a $5 bn fine but avoided supervision from the FTC: it was a slap on the wrist with a "Now be a good lad and don't do it again please" warning.
So nothing stupid about this, they know they'll get caught again but they just couldn't care less.
True, but the same day that fine was announced, a 2nd investigation was announced. So the next fine should be 10x, so $50B.
The same reasoning has to be applied to the Equifax breach. they sued for $575M assuming your typical low historical claim rate. Now that everybody and their brother is submitting claim forms, that USD$125 per person ammount is going to approach 1 cent. The next company that gets sued will probably end up with an amount per verified claimant fine with only a minimum amount-per-claim set. If they had done that for Equifax, they would have been on the hook for more than USD$18.3B dollars.
To be honest, unless there is a mighty action at the end of all this - either seeing some FB execs behind bars, or the UK moving to ban FB in the UK, all of this is really just for the popcorn sales.
Something feeding the current state of politics is the observation that no matter how big the wrong, no matter how many people are affected, fuck all happens.
Data breach, you say ? MILLIONS of peoples details spaffed ? Too bad really. A slap here, a tickle there, and the plebs will suck it up.
Rinse and repeat for every singly egregious act anywhere in the establishment until you get to the Priti Patels and Boris Johnsons of the world and realise they are now in charge.
Is it any wonder more and more people aren't respecting the law ? It clearly is for mugs only.
FB can drown in the rotten, stinking cesspit of their own making as far as I'm concerned. They can take all their cash-laden execs and belly flop into the filth where they belong, licking the crusty scum out of each others arseholes. I have no time at all for them at all, and never will. They're defecating slime of the lowest order, feeding of a braindead society who for some reason think FB are doing them a favour. Zuckerberg can go f*ck himself.
Roger McNamee’s book on Facebook is a really readable introduction to the company’s flexible relationship with the truth.
McNamee was an early investor in Facebook and a confidante of Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg but eventually saw through Facebook’s working model of breaking stuff, apologising and moving on without changing anything.
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