back to article Oh, lovely, a bipartisan election hack alert law bill for Mitch McConnell to feed into the shredder

Two US lawmakers are pushing a bipartisan bill that would force the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to alert the public of hacking attempts on election computer systems. House reps Mike Waltz (R-FL) and Stephanie Murphy (D-FL) agreed to reach across the aisle to sponsor HR 3259, the Achieving Lasting Electoral Reforms on …

  1. trindflo

    It seems incredible that this wouldn't already happen

    Not really. The last thing politicians want is to have their legitimacy questioned. Reporting on inaccurate polling has no positive value to the people that were elected.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Mitch'll ditch this one as well; how is he (or any Republican), going to get re-elected without Russian support??

  3. Duncan Macdonald Silver badge

    Honest ?

    No surprise that the top Republicans do not want honest elections. (See the many Diebold voting machines articles for more details of the "oh so good" election machines - and note that the company was a major Republican party supporter.)

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    What is it with US politicians and all these stupid acronyms in names of acts? Can I suggest that an end is put to this via the "Ban All Stupid Terminology Attracting Republicans or Democrats" Act?

    1. Claverhouse Silver badge

      So true, those ponderous acronyms drive one mad.

      Same with their [ astoundingly self-aggrandizing ] Military Operations. The WWII Germans had colour-names or animals ( Arctic Fox ! Sealion, Falcon ) or Christian names ( Toni, Lucie, Ursula ), whilst the Americans recently have 'Enduring Freedom', 'Just Cause', 'Noble Eagle', Infinite Justice', 'Inherent Resolve'.

      Of course, apart from being inherently cooler, the Germans actually wanted to maintain secrecy to some extent.

      1. OssianScotland Silver badge

        Of course, apart from being inherently cooler, the Germans actually wanted to maintain secrecy to some extent....

        As did the Allies during WW2 (Operations Dynamo, Torch and Market-Garden, although Overlord was pushing it a bit). The UK has kept that (Operations Corporate, Granby, Herrick) but the US has gone overboard on "press-friendly" names. If they were truly random, Operation "Courageous Hamster" would be much better than "Desert Storm" or "Iraqi Freedom"

        Icon - Operation Tabarin, obviously

        1. Claptrap314 Silver badge

          I would argue that Churchill's instructions regarding naming operations would be violated by "Courageous Hamster". Unchecked random was NEVER an option.

  5. Kev99

    They wouldn't have these problems as much if the geniuses in Washington and the statehouses didn't mandate no more paper ballots. You know. The things used by most of the rest of the world.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    McConnell always reminds me of the Hyper-chicken lawyer from futurama.....

    1. Mark 85 Silver badge

      Damn... I owe you a cold one for that. I knew I've seen that face somewhere else (other than a news story).

    2. Winkypop Silver badge

      McConnell always reminds me of...

      ...what is wrong with US politics right now.

    3. Robert Helpmann?? Silver badge

      For me, he's always been Yertle the Turtle. The story has a distinctly political feel to it, so it works on that level, too.

      But, as Yertle, the Turtle King, lifted his hand And started to order and give the command, That plain little turtle below in the stack, That plain little turtle whose name was just Mack, Decided he'd taken enough. ... For Yertle, the King of all Sala-ma-Sond, Fell off his high throne and fell Plunk! in the pond!

      - T. Geisel

  7. Claverhouse Silver badge

    Poor Old Russiagate's Still A Thing ?

    "The one thing that is indisputable in the Mueller report is the fact that Russia interfered in our election. In Florida, it is unacceptable that the Russians know which systems were hacked but not the American voters who are the true victims of this intrusion,” Rep Murphy said on Wednesday.

    The last sentence is logically incoherent, since it's like saying it is unacceptable bankrobbers know which safes they broke, but the public doesn't. Anyway, Democrats won't accept the report of the ludicrous Mueller made no charges against Trump, but simultaneously will accept the unsubstantiated [ by Mueller ] vague charges against the Russians.

    The 'Russians; are alleged to have had a budget of $1.25 million a month; as the Clinton Campaign spent $1.2 billion.

    ... discarded in the Senate by the chamber's majority leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), with the reasoning that today's election computer security defenses – despite objections from experts – are sufficient to protect future elections from foreign hackers.

    Just as maintained by President Obama.


    Mitch McConnell has views, like most American conservatives, I find as abhorrent as those held by the devils in Hell; but it will one day be appreciated he was one of America's greatest politicians; second only to LBJ in the last 100 years.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Poor Old Russiagate's Still A Thing ?

      Oh dear God; has the account been hacked, or has a Russian Trump Troll really managed to get bronze status??

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Poor Old Russiagate's Still A Thing ?

        Down-votes are not a factor when determining badge status. So if you're a prolific commentard, it's not that difficult to obtain the necessary up-votes for a badge, even if your opinions are rubbish.

    2. phuzz Silver badge

      Re: Poor Old Russiagate's Still A Thing ?

      Ok, I'll bite.

      "second only to LBJ in the last 100 years."

      so, Claverhouse, where do you stand on the 'LBJ arranged the assassination of JFK' theory?

      1. Jaybus

        Re: Poor Old Russiagate's Still A Thing ?

        "where do you stand on the 'LBJ arranged the assassination of JFK' theory?"

        Surely that one ranks just above the Russia elected Trump theory.

  8. Aladdin Sane Silver badge

    Obligatory xkcd

    1. MiguelC Silver badge

      And then Boeing decided software was the way to go to fly safely...

  9. DontFeedTheTrolls Silver badge

    "only to have the measures discarded in the Senate by the chamber's majority leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), with the reasoning that today's election computer security defences ... are sufficient to protect future elections from foreign hackers"

    When it comes to hacking, there are two types of organisations in the world - those who have been hacked, and those who don't know it yet.

  10. Potemkine! Silver badge

    Voting machines are useful

    They enable to rig elections much more easily. No surprise some want them to be used.

  11. Rich 11 Silver badge

    All enemies, foreign and domestic

    "Our elections system is perhaps the most critical of all infrastructure to our democracy – and it is constantly under attack from foreign powers who do not share our values."

    It's also under attack from domestic powers who do not share your values. Gerrymandering and voter suppression play much more of a role in rigging elections than the Russians likely ever have, while the creation of Super PACS makes it much easier for a faceless funder to influence voters.

  12. Eddy Ito

    "After we adequately harden our infrastructure, the federal government needs to have an honest conversation..."

    So that would be never. Wait, I can't tell, is this supposed to be comedy?

  13. Grinning Bandicoot

    Given what is printed that unauthorized hacking will be illegal; this then I suppose means that there exists authorized hacking. Now Chicago's voting patterns are exposed.

    1. Mike 16 Silver badge

      Authorized Hacking

      Has existed for at least a Century in the U.S. I know that doesn't sound all that long to a Brit, but then 100 Miles doesn't sound that long to a Yank.

      Anyway, it is inherent in politics that those in power will do whatever it takes to stay in power. All else follows simply and logically.

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    maybe some don't know

    Elections are a show, not an actual event. People are allowed to think they have a choice. But the candidates are selected by the corporations that bankroll them, not voters. I'm old, and know all to well, it's all BS. At worst we are slaves, at best we are pets. Either way we don't matter beyond making us obey.

  15. Claptrap314 Silver badge

    Far, FAR more effective to just ban voting machines entirely. They really only do exist in order to make election stealing easier. I can accept (as a compromise) a system where the voter reviews the physical record for them which is collated electronically as a way to speed results.

    I think that people misread Russia's goals. While in any particular election, they are likely to have a preferred candidate, they are far more interested in eroding confidence in the election process. Over the long run, that will damage the US's ability to interfere with their designs to a far greater degree.

    Pollution of the voter roles is a thing, though, and a really nasty hack would be to delete a significant number of voters from the roles a week before the election, especially if it was done in a way that could through an election.

  16. Louis Schreurs Bronze badge

    We are living in the USA.

    ?????? We ????

    WE ??????

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