I am getting worried
... about the state of climate in hell.
Microsoft's transformation into a fully paid-up member of the Linux love-train continued this week as the Windows giant sought to join the exclusive club that is the official linux-distros mailing list. The purpose of the linux-distros list is used by Linux distributions to privately report, coordinate, and discuss security …
"In 2001 Ballmer guessed that FOSS threatened to lose Microsoft money. Today the cheeses believe it will make Microsoft money. That's all there is to it."
And ... that's fine. Isn't it?
Plenty of other vendors in the linux world are there to make money, and far more users in the linux world are there to save money (which is the same thing but even better from a tax standpoint).
There's nothing wrong with that, per se. But Microsoft did go the extra mile deep into assholishness in how they pursued that legitimate interest. Compare "You used to threaten to lose the Mafia money, now you gain the Mafia money so you don't have to worry about being gunned down in the street anymore." Factually it's correct, and it's legitimate to want to gain money and not lose money, but there are better and worse ways to go about it and Microsoft has gone about it in the worst ways again and again. That now their interests are aligned differently doesn't change one iota of their historic or even ongoing strategy.
but no, they lack the power, microsoft can no longer do things like that. Microsoft's current strategy is to ride along and grab as much as they can, which means they will be able to grab a lot. And, when feasible, steer the process towards microsoft's goals, of course.
Linux offers opportunities to make money and at microsoft they want to take as much of that money to themselves as they can, each penny of it should go to microsoft that is their goal. Microsoft people are taking positions making sure an increasing share of Linux money is channeled to microsoft's coffers.
We should certainly not take anything Microsoft says as truthful with regard to this recent interest in Linux (or anything else), and they've earned the position they're in, where observers assume, for every action Microsoft takes, that there is nefarious intent (even if we can't quite figure out what it is yet), until proven otherwise.
Still, I don't see this stuff as MS trying the old EEE strategy this time. Linux is not competition for Microsoft, as they clearly do not care about Windows anymore.
There were lines that Gates and Ballmer would never cross when it came to Windows, even though crossing those lines would have meant more profits in the short term, and it was not because "Micro$oft" didn't like money as much as they do now. It was because Windows was the MS crown jewel, and they knew the story about killing the golden goose. They'd spent too much time and effort making sure that Windows WAS the golden goose to take the risk that they'd harm the Windows platform.
Under Gates and Ballmer, MS never forced users to accept substandard Windows versions like Vista or ME, choosing instead to fix what people hated about them and offering something better (what an idea!), and they never conscripted consumers to beta-test their own paid software. Nadella's Microsoft is taking every opportunity to cash in on Windows in the short-term while gradually destroying it over time. This is not an accident.
While many people still think of MS as the Windows company, they're all about the cloud now, and their competitors are AWS and Google, not Apple and Linux. They're making piles of money with Azure, and Linux is more popular with Azure users than Windows. If Linux is where Azure customers want to be (and it is), it's where Microsoft wants to be.
If MS ever was going to try to EEE Linux, it would have been when Linux was cancer, not now that it is a massive money-maker for them. Why would they try to destroy what is making them so much cash? For Windows, that legacy thing that doesn't even get its own department anymore and that MS can't even be bothered to beta test in house? Windows was the past... the cloud is the future, and the cloud runs largely on Linux.
If MS thought they could destroy open-source, GPL software, they would have done it when that software represented a threat to their own profit rather than a big source of it. The GPL's "cancerous" properties that gave Ballmer the cold chills was designed specifically to prevent the likes of Microsoft from doing what people think they're trying to do now.
If Microsoft extends the Linux kernel, they're obligated to make the source of those extensions available under the GPL if they make the product based on those extensions available. If the extensions are an improvement, the kernel team can incorporate them; if not, it can leave them alone.
That part is relatively easy for MS. The problem would be when they try to extinguish-- but how can they extinguish what they do not own or control? Once they've written the code and it goes out there into the world under the GPL, it's no more "theirs" than any other GPL code. They can't shut off the tap and have it just go away as they could with their own proprietary software. Once something is out there on the internet, it's out there forever, and no longer under the control of its creator.
More likely, I think, is that MS wants to get some leverage within the Linux development community. MS feared the GPL, but something has happened since Ballmer's statement that may have changed their minds: they've watched as Google developed a browser that's mostly open-source, putting their money into developing not just a product whose compiled binaries are given away, but also whose source code is given away, rather than being kept tightly under wraps as MS would, and yet they can see that Google has no less control over Chrome than Microsoft had over IE back in the day.
If any of these governments ever see fit to really question Google over Chrome's market share, Google has that open-source thing to throw back at them. One can predict the arguments they'd make right now: How can Chrome be anti-competitive when they give anyone who wants the ability to use, modify, and compile the browser source in any way they see fit?
There are lots of Chromium-based browsers, which Google would say shows that competition is alive and well, and the overwhelming dominance of Chrome itself in market share (as opposed to its Chromium cousins) does not, in this case, indicate anti-competitive behavior, but that people prefer the Google product-- a claim that could not be made for a closed-source product like IE. Chromium-based browsers and actual Chrome render web pages just the same, so you're not obligated to get the actual Google branded Chrome to get all of the benefit of using the standard browser for which web pages are designed, which was not the case with the proprietary Internet Explorer.
Microsoft may well have learned what Google already knows: Open source isn't a cancer for a company that wishes to dominate and control a market as both Microsoft and Google have done... it's a blessing.
Now that we've seen Microsoft abandon their own proprietary browser code in favor of Chromium, one could easily conclude that MS may be thinking of doing the same with Windows itself, and for the same reasons. If they were to do this, it would be quite possible that a conflict between Microsoft distributing its closed binary blobs with GPL'd code would crop up (due to the "cancerous" nature of the GPL), and being a Platinum member of the Linux Foundation and a benefactor of the Linux community would go a long way in protecting them from any claims resulting from that conflict. It already has for other members.
Nice answer.. MR. NADELLA.
All jokes aside, we have to take a closer look what EEE really means:
1) Embrace: Microsoft creates products who are compatible to open standards or non-MS products.
2) Extend: Add new features so people use MS stuff.
3) Extinguish: MS Stuff gets de facto standard, so the entry barriers are getting higher and those who do not want to support the MS "additions" don't have a change anymore.
This is not a new idea, it' basically how "the godfather" does it in the movies:
Help people and make people depend on you.
Now we do see a large scale adoption of Linux, i.e. SQL Server 2017 was the first version which runs on linux. But it becomes more apparent when we look at the WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux) Linux. At first it was sold as "experiment in virtualization", but recently Linux became an "App" within the MS store.
Yeah, I'll repeat this:
The MS view is that Linux should be an App within Windows.
Now as Windows and Linux will get closer and closer, MS will inevitably start to kindly add features (stage 2). Of course they can't eventually "destroy" Linux, but if they enslave it and control it, they will "extinguish" it anyway.
I think their endgame is that you can't talk about Linux without Windows anymore. Since they pivot more and more stuff into the cloud (office) and kill off stuff you can't pivot (edge) they NEED Linux in their big plan of world domination... oh sorry, got a little bit carried away here.
Or did I?
The problem would be when they try to extinguish-- but how can they extinguish what they do not own or control? Once they've written the code and it goes out there into the world under the GPL, it's no more "theirs" than any other GPL code. They can't shut off the tap and have it just go away as they could with their own proprietary software. Once something is out there on the internet, it's out there forever, and no longer under the control of its creator.
MS has been playing some interesting games for a long time. Some they started a long time ago may only now be coming into fruition.
How much "GPL" code does MS actually own the rights to; code which never should've been released as GPL as MS owned it outright?
You're not worried right now, but here's the chill. When MS aquired Hotmail, they had T&Cs that stated that MS completely owned the copyright to anything that went through Hotmail's servers - you gave up the right to your email contents if you had one of their accounts. I don't know if they still have that code or not.
Many people have used HM to share code of various forms, knowingly or unknowingly - ie there may've been ways to redirect mail to/from another domain for a long time. How many people innocently shared code with someone who was at say email@example.com where that address went to HM? When John replied quoting the code, MS then legally had the rights to the code.
And then there's the next issue. MS could simply choose to ignore the GPL, or even fight it (damn I'm sounding like C9 here! :( )
Will it stand up in court? Well, MS has deep pockets.
How much of this is 'happy coincidence', and how long has MS been playing games where they can get stuff through other acquisitions?
(MS aren't alone in those sorts of terms - did you put your company logo on LinkedIn or a G+ page? Well those companies now own the rights to your logo, you don't.)
Satanists and witches these days promote themselves as being the sorts who care for the community - but no matter how they dress, those who follow evil are only going to support the goals of evil - even when what they do appears to be good (eg many who claim the 'christian' banner yet live the devil's lifestyle).
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You're assuming Microsoft has good intentions.
They do. I, an avid MS hater, can fully and honestly say MS are doing this with the best intentions at heart.
Best intentions for MS of course.
Lemme see.. They'd get early access to bug reports - how many will be mysteriously 'accidentally leaked' or 'independently found by black-hat types' where a fix may be slow in coming (Linux slow like a few days, not MS fast like a few months or even years :) )
They'd be able to improve some of their own stuff - I'm sure MS has lifted 'one or two' bits of Linux code for their own internal stuff.
And I'm sure MS would never try to figure out ways to use early knowledge of issues with Linux to improve their own position.
Microsoft is the Borg.
And once it is in you will not be able to get rid of it.
I will repeat it as many times as is necessary:
Embrace, extend and extinguish may sound like a SciFi joke but it is not.
I'll say it again: this type of stuff does not bode well for the Linux ecosystem.
It will end up rotting it from the inside.
And by then the virus will be deeply ingrained inside Linux and far too late.
They are not the fearsome Borg that debuted on TNG, they're the pathetic Borg of Voyager who are outmatched by a single ship alone tens of thousands of light years from its nearest spacedock repair facility.
They are more likely to get assimilated by Linux than the other way around at this point.
They're currently turning Windows 10 into some kind of hybrid Frankenstein monster, where no one needs to bother dualbooting to run Linux and Windows. This is an attack on Linux, since they're trying to limit people running full Linux as a competitor.
Can't have people using a full install of Linux and realising it's got a lot of advantages over Windows, can we now...
I don't think they are as incompetent as they are greedy.
Their marketing of W10 is proof. It's a horrid system, but its so much of a cash cow between it's data harvesting and micro-payment for apps they could afford to just give (push) it away this time. They figured out that there is more money in Service (and data) than Sales. Now they just need to be sure to have their fingers in everything else to bolster marketing a little more. "Here at MS we work with and support other software (Linux) to ensure your W10 experience is fluid no matter how or where you compute. Welcome to MS, we are the world." Just greed, that's all.
" Microsoft outclasses the Linux community in terms of sheer ruthlessness, not to mention money and power."
When the linux community includes IBM, Google and Amazon... Then I'm not quite sure that M$ outclass them in terms of money.
And probably not in power either.
It's just that 'no one got fired for buying IBM' needs an update
I hope that what you say is true, but I doubt it. Microsoft outclasses the Linux community in terms of sheer ruthlessness, not to mention money and power.
Maybe we can send Hans Reiser to Redmond on a work-release programme. I've heard he's an expert Linux coder...
Isn't that cute - Microsoft holding hands and singing Kumbyah with the unshaven Penguinistas. Such a heartwarming moment that we've waited decades for. It's almost like watching warm and fuzzy videos of cute puppies playing in a bright green field. Puppies that unknowingly have cancer and rabies, but they're so cute to watch. So sweet and innocent. Awww. We should EMBRACE those puppies and show them all the love they deserve. They'll grow up so fast...
The Linux devs already have plenty of testing tools. See this article in LWN for example: CVE-less vulnerabilities
MS is probably better off looking closer to home for bugs and participating in the wider conversation. I find myself strangely in favour of this move. Feels a bit odd given I was using a Mandrake distro on my desktop and being described as a cancer or something by the knobends at MS back in the day.
> To be fair, since they purchased github, MS' code quality has gone up drastically.
GitHub themselves seem to be doing more weird stuff lately too.
An example from last week: now when you create a new repo, you're no longer automatically added to the Watch list for it. So issues, PRs, etc on it don't come to your attention.
It's easy enough to add yourself to the repo after creation... if you know to do it.
However, this change has been done silently without telling anyone, so most people won't notice. It's a significant behaviour change, with no communication about it happening.
What's more... it wouldn't be surprising if the change was unintentional, and nobody working for GitHub has noticed.
The Linux Foundation has already let the fox in the henhouse. That was the actual terrible thing that happened. Since that's a done deal, though, I think that letting them onto the linux-distros list is not only reasonable, but desirable in terms of the greater good.
The list is primarily focused on security issues, and whether we like it or not (I obviously don't) Microsoft is doing Linuxy things that are impacted by, and will impact, Linux security. They need to be an active participant on that front.
" ... are impacted by, and will impact, Linux security. ... "
You mean by adding buggy crap code and vulnerabilities into Linux, like they have been doing to their own code? For decades.
What was it, 1809? That every time you got near it, it broke shit? And now 19H0 (?) is ..............
Actually where is it?
Even Microsoft isn't actually sure where/when it is.
Yea that sounds like a real effing good idea to me. Let's let them in and see.
No effing thank you. It's a very, VERY EFFING BAD EFFING IDEA.
( If you would like to know how I REALLY feel, just ask. :) )
"You mean by adding buggy crap code and vulnerabilities into Linux, like they have been doing to their own code?"
No, that's not what I mean. Microsoft can't unilaterally add code into any Linux distro (or into the official kernel) that they aren't making themselves. And they can (and do) add code into distros they make themselves whether or not they're part of this list.
What Microsoft wants to do is change the discussion about security issues with Linux. And they will beat everyone to fatigued submission with an army of know-nothings just like the people who create "security" in Windows products.
"That's not a security problem in the kernel, it's an opportunity to sell a different product which enhances Linux". No, just no.
I think that perhaps people aren't understanding how the list works. It's not a rule-making body or anything, it's just where distro manufacturers get together to share notes. Even if Microsoft "beat everyone on the list into submission", it wouldn't affect what the distros do. It would just make the list no longer useful.
"You mean by adding buggy crap code and vulnerabilities into Linux"
Sasha Levin (the person who's made this request on behalf of Microsoft) is currently an active contributor to the Linux kernel, so the chances are you're alre4ady using his work in part. He used to work for Oracle if that makes you feel better?
"in terms of the greater good."
While those who think of themselves as 'Nobles' may *FEEL* (not think) in these kinds of terms, those of us who recognize the GREAT NUMBER OF EVILS that have been done with this particular phrase [or an equivalent] justifying it, *IMMEDIATELY* pucker up our anuses in anticipation of the SCREWING that will soon follow...
"greater good" huh? That's sorta like "the ends justify the means" without it being as obvious...
I'd be incredibly worried about Microsoft getting inside info on Linux. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it didn't use any bugs or security faults as a hammer against using Linux. And I wouldn't be surprised if it were to take the open source whiz-bags and recode them for Windows and lock them down.
Let's be realistic here. The "inside info" that goes through the linux-distros list are not exactly state secrets. Generally speaking, it tends to be discussions of vulnerabilities that are already reasonably well-known (often discovered) by the larger technical Linux and security communities. The purpose of the list is to develop and coordinate mitigations to discovered vulnerabilities.
Microsoft will not be learning many things there that they wouldn't already have learned elsewhere. Not to mention that if Microsoft uses their knowledge in a way that is harmful to security (as you suggest), they'd be kicked off the list.
And they already have people working on the Linux kernel. See there's that.
Yes, it is strange, and had somebody told me this a decade ago I would have called the guys with the comfy strap-around vests. It absolutely makes sense now, and considering that some of our "favourite" companies are already on board (Oracle and Google...) I really cannot see any new problems.
"Yes, it is strange, and had somebody told me this a decade ago I would have called the guys with the comfy strap-around vests. It absolutely makes sense now, and considering that some of our "favourite" companies are already on board (Oracle and Google...) I really cannot see any new problems"
Indeed, and of all the companies mentioned in this entire discussion thread, it is Oracle today that is the most hostile corporate entity towards all things open source and not Microsoft under Satya.
Oracle is actually totally dependent on Linux. They kind of half-ass support their databases on Windows, but otherwise Linux is it. Oracle used to run on liek 30 different platforms, but no more. *Everything* they sell runs Linux. Looking for an Exadata, ZDLRA, Exalogic, Firewall, Identity Manager, or anything else? You will run Linux and like it. The even have their own distro which is a blatant copy of RHEL. I'm now sure why Red Hat hasn't thrown a sueball at them yet
The problem is not what Microsoft will learn; but how they will react to that knowledge. Instead of solving the security problem, Microsoft will argue the problem is negligible, will encourage a 3rd party to develop to develop the fix, then later buy the 3rd party for pennies on the dollar and much later (after the damage is done) present their fix to a problem which should have been fixed long ago.
"Microsoft will argue the problem is negligible, will encourage a 3rd party to develop to develop the fix, then later buy the 3rd party for pennies on the dollar and much later (after the damage is done) present their fix to a problem which should have been fixed long ago."
And so what? Microsoft can argue anything it likes, but nobody on the list has any authority over anything except their own products. If they're unreasonable, they can, and will, be ignored.
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Ok...if I want to destroy something, I'll do it from within. Get as many cronies as I can get and they will join and they will help me become the head honcho! <grin>
Ok, so we know MS is the destroyer of things. So what are they're up to? Oh the drama...life gets interesting as we move along. But seriously...destroy from within is the best I got. : )
MS is probably getting on board the same kind of train they always have, only this time they're 20 years late.
So now they want on board with a 1st class seating arrangement, when all of the 1st class tickets have been sold and there's nothing available seating, but they want in anyway.
But given time and the influx of unlimited money, MS *could* buy themselves an entirely NEW TRAIN, and have probably already planned on this...
Fortunately there's *STILL* FreeBSD
Like a leopard and it's spots I don't Microsoft loves Linux. The phrase Kernel + Microsoft stinks not to mention the tools used to find vulnerabilities in the kernel, why don't they use it on their own damned software (Office). OK join the club but look but don't touch. I've been around Microsoft to know that they have been busted for introducing back doors and hiding undocumented entry points not to trust them. If there is another agenda here other than being lovi dovi it's yet to be discovered. I hope it will not see the demise of open and free software in the future
Linux diehards showing once again they can't adapt to (not believe in) change...
Actions speak louder than words. Show us evidence of this alleged change. It will take more than a few "Microsoft loves Linux" statements to refute, rescind, or nullify all they have said and done since the very beginning. They've spent decades destroying anyone that gets in their way, and we're supposed to forget all of that and welcome them now because they claim to now love what they once called "cancer?"
No, sorry, it doesn't work that way. If the change is real, it's going to take some time for a new track record of consistent Linux friendliness and good faith to begin to replace the old track record, the one that saw MS embrace and pretend to love new things while plotting their destruction.
While we're at it, it's not "adapting to change" to throw out good ideas and things that work because someone has declared that some other thing is the hot new trend now. To slavishly follow every ridiculous but fashionable idea that comes down the pike isn't "adapting to change"... it's being gullible and foolish.
Heartbleed is one case where a buffer-overrun caused problems and was not picked up. Nothing is perfect, and these things will always slip through to some degree other, regardless of the amount of scrutiny.
But how many other problems were identified by automated code analysis on the source trees? Look back to the early days of the CVE database, and you will see literally hundreds of vulnerabilities that were picked up as potential (i.e. no proof of concept) vulnerabilities by inspection and analysis of the code.
At the time, closed source advocates lambasted Linux and the Open Source movement for having so many code defects, not realizing that the reason why they were being found (and fixed) was because of the openness of the code.
How many other "Heartbleeds" were avoided, while closed source software vulnerabilities lurked waiting to be found and exploited by actual example!
My personal feeling is that I would prefer to have the code available for inspection, even if nobody is currently doing it, rather than trusting a commercial company to vet their own code (at some considerable expense), when they have a financial reason to hide the problems and not do it!
I'll just leave these here:
Mine is the one with the Pineapple WiFi in it.
Microsoft has been always about the money... not about the high “moral” ground.
Microsoft used their dominance to maintain their dominance. These days Apps are money, Linux/Android are where the Apps are at. If Microsoft didn’t find a way to recover from their crappy store and mobile efforts it could threaten their entire business. The ability to run Linux on Windows is huge. It was something that needed to happen anyways to support Linux instances in the cloud (Azure).
Satya Nadella is a smart guy. Why bitch and complain about something that can bring in $$$$.
He’s doing the same thing with IE/Edge. Why spend the money to fix crap when you can bring in a open source browser that are cheaper (to support) and better.
Windows 10 needs a lot (ok a shit-ton) of work, but Microsoft doing amazingly well elsewhere.
My biggest complaint with Microsoft’s lately is the data slurp...
Microsoft has been always about the money... not about the high “moral” ground.
It's sobering, but I'm afraid you're right there...
Thing however is that there is a clash of ideology that should be resolved now or else it's indeed going to rot from the inside. And that doesn't mean bad code so much.
 When is MS going to open up their code?
 When is MS going to conform to ISO standards?
 When is MS going to facilitate full compatibility?
 When is MS going to subscribe to, let's be honest, the core of the matter, the open source ideology and philosophy?
Right now, MS contributes to *nix in a one-way, self-serving manner. It fosters *nix like a sweat shop owner in Bangladesh looks after the well-being of its child labourers. And yes, that's is to be expected. They are a commercial institute. And yes again, I know, there are "other companies" in there right now. But MS? FFS! The *nix community will confirm the internal train-of-thought and strategy of MS: "Ah, don't worry, they are all stupid ideological hippies, we will give them the run around and cash in any way. Just tell them the year of the Linux Desktop is this year."
The image of the unwashed, sandal wearing tree hugger, who takes the slick geezers word at face value, believes their arguments "because they are really nice if you come to know them actually. They say they recycle!", and doesn't ask for anything back. And the latter doesn't mean lines of code. Because that is only to their own advantage. It should mean, to just mention a minor detail, drop the proprietary crap, open up, and share more than a bloody calculator on the, turned-brothel, dev platform they annexed recently. Oh, and what about asking them to pay their yearly "Linux 365"
extortion subscription fee or we make your boxen useless? (Yeeees, I know, they probably already contribute pocket money, but again, think about the ideology...)
Sasha Levin, who describes himself as a "Linux kernel hacker" at the beast of Redmond, made the application for his employer to join the list,
If Levin is a bona-fide Linux kernel dev whose track record looks relevant (and that would be for the existing Linux kernel dev community to judge), then it makes sense to offer access to private lists.
But that's talking about a person, not a corporation. How is there any question of a corporate entity joining a mailing list? It's people who need to receive security reports and work through fixes, sometimes in private! Maybe if there's a second private list, not to fix issues but to pre-announce fixes once they've been made, corporate membership might be appropriate there?
Microsoft, like any other bigco, can access karma on an open source project by hiring devs who have that karma. Levin's karma should be based on his contributions and track record of constructive engagement, regardless of who employs him! If that's not how it works at Linux then I guess we have an issue of process.
From the article:
"Levin has indeed been an active member of the community. A glance at the changelog for the 5.0.15 Linux kernel is peppered with his sign-offs, often along with Greg Kroah-Hartman, a fellow at the Linux Foundation. It was therefore not surprising to see Kroah-Hartman vouch for Levin. Kroah-Hartman pointed out that Levin has full write permissions to the stable kernel trees..."
Mr Torvald is a NPC by now.
Don't you remember the "I want to take some time off because's I've been a naughty boy" mail?
With some special white space characters he never used before?
Don't know if this was some kind of blackmail or something (google "Honeytrap" and "Raymond")..
But don't expect any kind of resistance of Linus anytime soon. Man down, let's pay our repect..
Hasn't occurred to anyone in the Linux core community that Microsoft is using the Trojan horse tactic to infiltrate inside the Linux community so that it can destroy it from within?
What is the main product that Microsoft sells? Windows OS licenses! That is thair core business, that is how they make money. And who is the main competitor to Microsoft right now? It is Linux! It is not Macintosh anymore, they are in a price range that puts them on a niche market. Linux is the real alternative to Microsoft and they know it. They want to kill the competitor and become a monopoly again like they were in the late 90s and early 2000s.
Linux as a whole became too important for the electronics industry to allow it to be hijacked by one party.
It is great news another powerful party joined the club, since Open Source is a collaboration project, it can only gain from it.
Revenues from windows licenses is a declining business on the longer term.
Since MS is giving away W10 for free, it only serves as enabler for sales of other MS products, they could as well replace w10 with Linux and save considerable money otherwise spent on development and maintenance.
AWS, which is not relying on license fees as a business model, is pouring millions in further developing Open-Source products like MariaDB, to undermine MS and Oracle. Every dollar not spent on licenses for MSSQL or Oracle, is a potential revenue for AWS. It is along these lines the battles will be fought, the good old license model is on the long run not sustainable due to the enterprise grade quality of Open-Source products.
Yes, if you do need a simple RDBMS database with no add on features it's pretty hard to make a case against postgres. Increasingly new applications will move away from SQL Server etc, and it will be left with stuff that's built around its SSIS, or BI addons, or systems like Dynamics. SQL Server HA functionality is now excellent but it still needs a strong business case to justify. Same for Oracle, it will be sustained by its Applications or business systems like JDEdwards, but 95% of Oracle database only deployments could have been on Postgre.
If you are a DBA or DB developer on Oracle or SQL then make sure you get Maria and PostgreSQL under your hat and keep an eye on nosqls like Mongo too.
On Azure a lot of DBA work is automated. By a lot I mean most.
Azure is where they see their future income stream.
The competition between cloud providers is healthy enough that Azure needs to move towards the customers and developers, they can't strongarm customers towards running their cloud apps on Windows (however much MS Classic would have liked to do so).
So the better they can make the GNU/Linux on Azure experience, the more customers will choose to run their clouds on Azure.
I largely agree. And they are setting themselves up nicely to rob the tax payer by making it cheap for governments to upload their exabytes but costly as hell if they want to leave, But the truth is, Linux runs on bare metal so one would expect it to run on properly managed hypervisor - there is no need to get involved in the future development of Linux - unless there is an ulteria motive, e.g. sliding in patented code/algorithms or "something". Essentially MS is a manipulator and they want to manipulate the Linux kernel for nothing more than to self serve. The only time MS does anything good is to boost their image the same way a psychopath demonstrates morality and lifestyle on Facebook; but it's what goes on behind closed doors is where the reality is.
And history has taught us that reality: we have all we need to know about Microsoft (Comes vs Microsoft case and all the other anti-trust) plus this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVHcdgrqbHE
Microsoft is an inherently evil, manipulative, destructive organisation - there is no other way to put it. They have obviously helped many businesses prosper but they are like the drug dealer that gives away an addictive sample because causing the big, costly dependency.
But arguably AWS is letting us down by not being competitive in the Office space. I work on government projects and have involvement in the selection process. I cannot legitimately say AWS is more suitable than Azure when it clearly isn't at the time of delivering an assessment.
AWS sales folk are not as aggressive as the MS ones - seemingly not wanting the business as badly - and that's why MS will trend on the Gartner Magic Quadrant ahead of all others (I think they may be there already).
Perhaps this is the first move toward replacing the MSWin legacy kernel with a Linux-based kernel? Build a Wine-like shell on top of it to run legacy code. Maybe that's the ultimate goal of WSL2; have WSL run Wine, run legacy applications under that and then rip out the legacy APIs from the main MSWin10 kernel.
.....less frequently mentioned, but much more worth reading (sorry...long read) is the "Evangelism is War" memo.
The first few sentences say it all:
"Our mission is to establish Microsoft's platforms as the de facto standards throughout the computer industry.....Every line of code that is written to our standards is a small victory; every line of code that is written to any other standard is a small defeat. Total victory...is the universal adoption of our standards by developers, and this is an important step towards total victory for Microsoft itself."
....throughout the computer industry...
....universal adoption of our standards....
This is the Microsoft of the year 2000....and it is the same Microsoft today in 2019. Times vary, technologies vary....but the goals are STILL THE SAME.
I wonder how much support a non-Microsoft build would get?
I for one would dig deep into my pockets and invest in a cut of Linux that was free of MS.
Very much worth watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVHcdgrqbHE
Based on empirical evidence, we could never trust Microsoft. As someone who has to work with Azure I see the way they are offering cheap entry but costly exit - yet governments etc. just commit exabytes of data they could never afford to move to a different provider. I also blame Amazon and Google for literally giving them the business.
Microsoft owns LinkedIn, Skype and people upload, spell & grammar-check their docs in MS's cloud. MS gave away Visual Studio Code, they own Github and are on the some sort of patent/innovation committee. I can't believe the incentive is NOT to harvest everyones thoughts and IP - its less of a case of conspiracy theory and more a case of factual evidence and the writing being on the wall.
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