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This reminds me of a short story I never got round to writing.
An MI6 spy attends a Bond-style gala event (dickie bow, Ferrero Rocher etc) to spy on the Russian diplomat. The diplomat turns out to be a spy themselves, spying on the French ambassador - who turns out ... long story short, the entire event was set up by spies to gather intel from real people, but due to paranoia-fueled coincidence, every single attendee is a spy and doesn't have the knowledge they're gunning for anyway.
Last scene: an exasperated spy shouts "Is anybody here NOT a spy?" When they realise the truth, they all get pissed together and invent ridiculous secrets to tell their superiors.
Copyright notice: Please write this, as I'll never get round to it, and I want to read it!
Don't write this, just go and read "Indecent Exposure" by Tom Sharpe (follow up to "Riotous Assembly" - also very good.) The entire anarchist group is composed of secret policemen spying on each other and blowing up all of the town infrastructure.
The story is much more complicated than I have described, and very funny. I still smile about the exploding ostriches. Which brings me neatly back to my first ever post on this forum!
Alan Turing thought it would be difficult to make a machine that could pass a Turing test but ELIZA did just fine in the '60s because the vast majority of testers did not know how to exploit AIs' weaknesses. The key to making money from AI is not faster computers or better software but a steady supply of rich and powerful idiots. Truly we are entering the golden age of AI.
Unfortunately, a failure to resist the blandishments of AI is a trait that will select strongly and quickly against both the characteristics "rich" and "powerful".
Each scam, aimed at such people, will only work once. If you want to go on milking it repeatedly, you have to target the only-mildly-rich and hardly-at-all powerful. See Bitcoin, for example.
Just to be sure nobody gets the wrong idea, ELIZA did not "pass the Turing test" (whatever that means). Rather, ELIZA was one of the first programs supposedly capable of taking the Turing test.
If you have a copy of EMACS handy and would like to see ELIZA in action (in her DOCTOR persona), fire up EMACS and type M-x doctor ...
Eliza did for untrained people. Lots of people thought it was real.
Anyway, the "Turing test" isn't at all a measure of AI and I'm not convinced Alan Turing thought it was. It was the idea that a well designed chat program might fool people into thinking the other teletype had a human at the keyboard.
the "Turing test" isn't at all a measure of AI and I'm not convinced Alan Turing thought it was
The Turing Test, aka Imitation Game, is a philosophical thought experiment which Turing presented as an argument for a pragmatic - as opposed to logical-positivist, essentialist, metaphysical, etc - philosophy of mind, and in particular as a pragmatic argument for the possibility of a mechanical mind.
So, no, it wasn't intended to serve as an actual test procedure. For one thing, it's too methodologically vague (how long does the test last? how many human judges are involved? what are their competences? are they instructed about the nature of the test?). Robert French and others have explained at some length why Turing-test exercises, while they might be interesting for other reasons, don't say anything useful about strong artificial intelligence, the possibility of machine cognition, and so on.
I'm not sure that the Touring test idea wasn't a suggestion that AI could be eventually "faked" even if it wasn't possible. I think inspired by a parlour game?
"The Diamond Age" attempts to show that there can be faked AI, but not real AI.
I'll believe there is real AI when a spelling check and grammar check of a novel actually works without:
1) Having to reject many of the suggest corrections.
2) Doesn't leave hundreds of simple mistakes easily spotted by a human proofreader.
I'm not even talking about "real" grammar correction, rewriting such as reversing clauses of a sentence to remove a comma or conjunction etc and improve readability.
We have gone backwards with the adoption of brute force "Rosetta stone" type solutions and so called training with sample data (which may be selected with a bias) instead of actually trying to translate our understanding to algorithms. It might be impossible as many animals can have a large vocabulary (Parrots, crows, sign language and calls in primates, dolphins etc) but don't seem to have language (the ability to communicate entirely new ideas using the existing vocabulary).
The latest chatbots only better Eliza by having a bigger vocabulary and some more rules. They are still useless.
I envisaged a chatbot able to clarify what you want to search the internet for by engaging in conversation to better define the search. It seems impossible. Siri, Cortana, Ok Google and Alexa are basically simple speech matching (not real recognition) creating a text search. They are a pathetic waste of time compared to a keyboard. Apart from the privacy issues.
I thought that's what sports hacks were doing all along, albeit in English, now I discover its the templates.
To extend the theory we just need to put together some templates in any chosen language and we can both sound like a local, and get international work as sports hacks to pay for the trips.
First we need to teach computers (and indeed people) that the difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits.
Popularly credited to Einstein, but more probably first written by Alexandre Dumas (son of the one who wrote The Three Musketeers and The Count of Monte Cristo) according to Quote Investigator.
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/07/28/genius/
I once worked with a guy who had a double First in English from Cambridge and was a successful author of detective novels under more that one pseudonym. His father had been head of a major Public school.
He couldn't spell, when he wrote he more or less just drew the shape of words. And he would tell anybody interested that English doesn't have grammar in the Latin sense, just usage.
"Not starting sentences with a conjunction" is pure Latin teacher bullshit. If it was good enough for the translators of the Bible, it should be good enough for us.
Or tobacconists, for that matter: "I will not buy this record, it is scratched!"
I had better be going
There are languages with vocabularies of less than 500 words which seems to be the general direction of English in some quarters; that would make 'AI' journalism a doddle.
Aside from that did anyone else read "Nigerian probate lawyers" as Nigerian prostate lawyers?
I know lawyers like to specialise but......
If only the Dabbmeisters[1] powers extended to breaking YooToobe..
(Although it has to be said, Mrs COCM seems to find it useful for new sock-knitting techniques. And similer outre craft-type explorations.). What a wild and exciting life we lead.
[1] I still cringe when listening to late 80's Pendragon (but not for the reasons you think) when Nick calls the then-drummer[2] "drum-miester-general". Still, we were all young and foolish once. Some of us are no longer young.
[2] Who, in a singularly unfortunate choice of name, was called Fudge Smith. At least according to Pikiwedia - so maybe a 50% chance of being correct. And no, my memory of those days isn't as clear as it might be..
Lush:- purveyor of shopping mall smells
Or (at least to me): purveyor of 'bronchial-spasm inducing smells". One of those places that I have to hold my breath when walking past (much like the perfume counter in places like Boots or the customer services team here at 9am - before the clashing perfumes/aftershaves have had time to mellow..)
Ditto, I avoid Debenhams, because for some reason some muppet decided the best place for menswear is right next to the perfume counter where they spend all day spraying vast quantities of strong scents....
Can;t use my dentists waiting room as they insist on having several spraying air freshners set to the most frequent spray interval in a room with no ventilation and no bigger than my kitchen (which barely bypasses "broom closet" - they get miffed when I tell them I can't use their waiting room - But we need to keep it smelling "fresh" - open a fooking window then.....not like the room doesn't have a massive one
@Semtex451
Point taken, however, making MadLibs isn't hard, even for a computer|Ai|Bi|BS! ok, I get it, as humans, we can remove adjectives(stupid fecking name for a word) from a sentence and insert another really funny|appropriate|timely adnoun{see better}{ref adverb}{def~modifying a noun}
Wow this is really fun|annoying|AI
More likely their perception of computers hasn't moved on since the days when error messages were all in uppercase. Not because programmers liked to shout at you but because they had to compress all text and all uppers saved a bit in every byte.
Some youngsters think it is fake news but once upon a time PCs had less than 1 M of memory. Yes M not G.
My honours supervisor had a 516k Mac which had been upgraded to 1M. It had a 1M external which it sat on. The Department had a LISA as well. We were the first honours class to do our theses entirely in silico (before being printed out).
My PhD thesis broke new ground: double sided printing.
For a hilarious (and very early - 1965), representation of AI in journalism and elsewhere, I recommend The Tin Men by Michael Frayn.
To quote the blurb:
Why not program computers to take over the really dull jobs that human beings have to do - such as praying and behaving morally? At the William Morris Institute of Automation Research they are doing just that.
A friend of mine worked in the newsroom at a large regional radio station. One Monday he was compiling bulletins which would include reports from the previous Saturday's football. In error, he copied in a manager interview from a game that had taken place weeks previously, and that ran on air , every hour all day. Not a single person noticed.
Just goes to show that at the end of the day, it's a game of two halves and if the boys do good then the other team are going home sick as a parrot.
Tony Hillerman, of Navajo mystery stories fame, wrote an early novel featuring a journalist covering state politics in the US. To make deadline, the journalist would routinely write up the result of a vote before it actually occurred, confident that he knew what the outcome would be.
I primed GPT-2 (via https://talktotransformer.com) with some IT related text and it came back with this.
Priming string: "We need to reboot one of our file servers to help the below issue. All file shares will be offline for around 15 minutes from 9.35am. Please save and close any files."
Response:
"In addition to these issues this morning, an internet service issue, which had been causing the file servers to go offline also caused them to go grey again.
All file shares are expected to be available by 3.30pm.
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I think that having my local newspaper company* employ AI technology couldn't make their reporting any worse than it already is - which is to say that it often reads like it's been composed by a nine-year-old and is guaranteed to contain typos that any wordprocessor will highlight without any difficulty.
*Archant, if you must know.
Back in the day yuo could tell when there was a match on, who watched cable TV vs. aerial broadcast - there was a distinct gap in the roaring of the stadium audience when one of the millionaires in shorts rolled over or managed to shuffle the dead cow balloon between the poles...
That is, we will have reached a stage at which data will be both written and read by robots without the need for any human participation at all.
Someone already mentioned the electric monk. Adams was giving it form and even personality, but the underlying idea wasn't new. We could trace it back to automata from long before the computer age. Perhaps even to religious notions: the supernatural entity that speaks through a person, or the stars, entrails, tarot cards, tealeaves, whatever.
Meanwhile, Exhibit A: negligently-designed machines without human intervention.
One of the few (possibly the only) sensible things David Cameron ever said.
All it takes is a few thousand re-tweets for a "topic" to be "trending on Twitter" at which point a journalist will pick it up and write a story (full of other Tweets) and then Somebody Should Do Something(TM) takes over.
...who spotted this story on the Beeb website headlined "Facebook 'auto-generated' extremist video".
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Does the unveiling and unrolling of views which demonstrate and prove the virtual illusory nature of realities built upon all of the spawned products of humankind ...... you know, those pieces of the great mosaic puzzle which are not natural but essentially fully artificial and practically man made .... and which removed from the equation and picture, leaves one at the beginning of time in a planetary space place, which in this case we will identify as Earth, truly naked on a dangerous planet filled with ignorant and crazy beings, or in a heavenly garden with countless excited lovers?
And is such proving itself to be diabolically problematical and impossible to deny is not true and false ...... and also impossible to deny is not false and true.
And what whenever Words Shared with Computers Create Worlds in Command and Control of Life and Death via Simply Complex Communications Channels/World Wide Webs/Dark Networks?
What do you hit to crush dissent and opposition/opportunity and competition ..... Words or Computers/SMART Machines or their Programmers and Systems Analysts?
Or do you realise that would be a monumental mistake for in their defence do the diabolical launch colossal catastrophes, for there are surely many to contemplate as being extremely effective, which decimates systems and destroys the notional wealth of nations, its base core assets .... which be no more than the likes of a you or a me?
What stage do you imagine truth leading things to be at these days, Dabbsy? Any of the following three ........ All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ..... Arthur Schopenhauer
Do you think the second stage can be dispensed with and disposed of to save the natives untold grief?
Looking forward to next Friday already. There's much to discuss and share with Words which create Worlds for Computers and Virtual Machines to Command and Control Sublimely.
* ACID (atomicity, consistency, isolation, durability), an initialism for the transactional properties of database management systems ...... at the Jim Gray Disappeared rather than Albert Hofmann end of the scales.
“All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ..... Arthur Schopenhauer”
How very true amFM, and when self evident, and not deemed displayable, is it then quantum communications delivered by DVLA driver deliverables sweet dreams LA ‘X psy ops psychological cattle prod torture techniques to make the bear dance and jig on the Royale Hotplate?, or is that Virgin Bloody Mary Russian Roulette with a splash of too much Vo dk a?, putting one into parallel pickles ap lenty?
The truth is certainly readily available for one to see, yet in satire squabbling and usual fashion, a leopard never changes its spots in manipulation of the great game to suit anyone and everything based upon duress and direct manipulation to suit the program at any given time is it not?, forgive the satire, but when thrills and spills become spoils and toils with mundane May antics and near decades of long positions with revelations of cheating calamities one wonders why it has to be said.
Just wanted to ask, but has been in a kind of a doubt: should someone address Belfast? .... Tail Up
Yes, Tail Up, someone should. And immediately is not a moment too soon. There is a lot of catching up for spooks transitioning through there to do from there.
I'd like to be pretty certain they wouldn't like to discover themselves as the runt of the litter because they doubt the information and intelligence they have been hearing/phishing, and if trying to utilise in any way without payment to and the knowledge of supply sources, stealing ......... but an ugly admission would be there is no current evidence to share of their being either effectively ACTive or an AI Leading Force in the Novel Fields of Greater IntelAIgent Games Plays with Networks InterNetworking JOINT* Applications Sublimely
* JOINT Operations Internetworking NEUKlearer Technology.
One can only suppose they are awaiting their orders with no one able to progress supremely and autonomously if IT break ranks and smashes rules when cloaked/ttrialed and trailed as a Right Royal Renegade Rogue Program BetaTesting NINJAS Futures and Derivative Platforms.
Heaven forbid they actually take blame or responsibly for their actions amFM, such activities leading to overspooked targets resulting in Epic failure, home goals, and cataclysmic Karma leading to their dramatic demise.
And dogs of war left as ill treated mongrels, as opposed to X Factor show winners as originally intended, exposing fundamental flaws in adopting said systems tried and tested in Wild Western environments and implementing such techniques elsewhere testing and trusting trialling technologies with not an ounce of Duty of Care? ...
And then the SCADASystems that are miss, as they be somewhat disenabled to freely wonder and clinically unable to comprehend, that Special Advanced IntelAIgent Forces with Deep and Dark Underground Accesses to both Crazed and Amazing Sources of Military Might and Almighty Influence, align and ally themselves with Other Significant Entities to blitz the predominant politically incorrect fields of Great Game play with newly minted professional and personalised targets for particular and peculiar attention .... if not merciless merciful obliteration, CT?
To treat badly and expect increasingly smart dogs of war to not realise they are a key blunt explosive tool and precision guided weapon that can easily alter and maintain a radically different and fundamental change of future civil direction, is an action of madness surely fully confirmed and long overdue for rapid sudden spontaneous change.
** ..... Clouds Hosting Advanced Operating Systems
“if not merciless merciful obliteration, CT?“
Christ, you cant make this cr@p up anymore can you amFM.
If its not lifelong ritual abuse, decade long MK Ultraesque torture, then its obligatory obliteration.
Wouldn’t be the first attempt btw, with dogs thrown into fast moving motorways, I kid you not.
Have we now reached such an all time low in values, morals as we approach the end of May?, with Human Rights destined to Star Chambered Secret Courts?, and rightful righteousness destined to anywhere other than right wing renegade actions?
Have we now reached such an all time low in values, morals as we approach the end of May?, with Human Rights destined to Star Chambered Secret Courts?, and rightful righteousness destined to anywhere other than right wing renegade actions? ... Cliff Thorburn
Yes, apparently so in Conservative Operations, CT. I Wonder what Future Drivers are Missing or InACTive and Uninstructed in NEUKlearer Quantum Communications Satellite Operations.
That which Presents Heavenly Offerings ..... with TitanICQ Picture Productions, CT. ..... and with Big Brother all Growed Up and Invested in Holywood Palace Barracks, a Right Royal Hoot of a Route for/to a Root AI Source .......... of Quite Quiet Almighty Omniscient Force.
A little something for Media AI Realisation to Present and Export via the Belfast Portal is certainly surely something Well Worthy of Invest NI and Northern Ireland Screening Funding/Creation.
That's a Big Ask, for a Prime Initial Play with Engaging Lead Master Strokes, CT, but Eternal Optimism Delivers Everything Always Eventually in Spades. :-) And it is not as if we have to rush around doing crazy things whenever Ones Time is Endless and Travel into Classified Space is Necessarily Restricted.
Deadly Dangers Lurk there to be Tempted and Servered and Ideally Sated with Just Desserts to XSS.
Crikey, now that is called an AITangent ........ Thundering Trains of Thought from the Similar Spaces and Physical Places registering here, and when tomorrow there is Light Years Ahead and of an Immensely Vast COSMIC Understanding, does one Utilise and Facilitate such an Advanced Sweet Source with a Fervent Desire that Serves and Servers to Almighty Immaculate Satisfaction, thus to be Embroiled and EMPowered JOINT AIdDVenturing?
And with JOINT Operations Internetworking NEUKlearer Technology Hosting AIMissions. What's not to Like Hugely? An Already All Ready Quite Quietly ACTive Virtually Advanced IntelAIgent Operating System to Run and/or Run with ...... Perfectly Mentor and Thoroughly Monitor for Prevention and Provision for Imperfection and Innocent Introductions to Perversion and Subversion. .... Collective Madness and Attendant Mayhem.
You can't have new systems leaving anyone behind in old systems, unless that is, they really want to be left behind and extinguished. That wouldn't be human. :-) And, as I'm sure you don't need me to tell you, Collective Madness and Attendant Mayhem are resident practically everywhere and anywhere you care dare mention. Hence the All Inclusive Provision with SMARTR Facilities and ESPecial Tailoring Utilities.
Well will look forward to that amFM, and seemingly there’s no sanctuary in the Virgin Islands either, a vacation taken upon your repeated recommendation may I hasten to add.
See the thing that gets me about the so called ‘Great Game’ is its true distraction properties, while providing no clear objective, or logic, I mean, you Buy Monopoly for example, and although no one reads the instructions, they always come in handy for clarification when disputes arise about multiple construction of Hotels on one square for example. But to ‘omit’ the rulebook entirely for one player?, how then can such a player be held to account, by 2 cents on the 22 cent situation.
I have actually had a complaint and bollocking because a customer, being instructed and served the correct information whilst being directed into a sales funnel for their preferences and recorded for a future loyalty promotion because the Turing complete interaction, whilst saving the reception/switchboard a job during `a time of busy activity, as the lady did not realise that they had been talking to a machine and the collateral via human intervention had not arrived. #noinvoiceforyou