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The Canadian parliament says it plans to subpoena Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and COO Sheryl Sandberg as part of a probe into Cambridge Analytica's shenanigans. The Great White North's Parliament Ethics Committee voted on Tuesday to issue subpoenas for both execs as it looks into how Facebook allowed Cambridge Analytica to …

  1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    I can call the spirits from the vasty deep.

    Why, so can I, or so can any man/But will they come, when you do call for them?

    Shakespeare

  2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

    Shirley...

    Shirley...if they fail to appear even after the subpoena expires, they are still guilty of contempt?

    1. StargateSg7 Bronze badge

      Re: Shirley...

      Shirley! They just can't be serious about this sobpoena?"

      They ARE serious...And don't call me Shirley!

      .

    2. macjules

      Re: Shirley...

      The Canadian government will remove all Facebook "like" and "share" buttons from their websites. That'll show that pesky Zuckerberg.

    3. eldakka

      Re: Shirley...

      IANAL, but I believe a subpoena needs to be served on the subject of the subpoena first, then if the subject has been served and continues to ignore it they can be done for contempt.

      However, if it is not served on the subject, then the subject cannot be done for contempt. The courts jurisdiction, it's power to serve the subpoena, is limited to its legal jurisdiction, e.g. Canada. Therefore if the subject of the subpoena isn't in the jurisdiction of the court, the subject can't be served it under the legal processes of that jurisdiction. Therefore if the subpoena expires before it is legally served on the subject, then no contempt (in the legal sense anyway) has occurred.

      This isn't to say they couldn't, I guess, set the time limit for something like 10 years, so they'd have to avoid Canadian territory for 10 years. However, I'd think a subpoena would usually be issued for the duration of the inquiry being undertaken. Therefore if an inquiry of some sort (court case, royal commission, parliamentary inquiry of some kind) is taking place, they usually have some sort of terms of reference that include a period of time the investigation is supposed to last. There is a date by which they have to produce their report/judgement/findings. Therefore I'd suspect that any subpoena issued would expire by that end-date of the inquiry, as their powers to issue any subpoena's would then no longer be valid.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Shirley...

        The existing legal frameworks of most countries, including Canada, was not designed to deal with transnational billionaires. They're not even very effective with run-of-the-mill millionaires. They are really only good for crushing peons like the rest of us: which they do remarkably well every day. Forget about "socialism for the rich", what has actually been achieved is anarchy for the oligarchs.

      2. Stork

        Re: Shirley...

        In this particular case, can't they just post it on Zuck's timeline? Then it's served by his own servers

      3. stiine Silver badge
        Happy

        Re: Shirley...

        That's just going to make his flights to Europe more expensive since he won't be able to take the great circle route from NY to London/Paris because he'd be overflying Canada and they might ask his pilot to land.

  3. bombastic bob Silver badge
    Coat

    Anal y sis

    it's how you spell 'Analysis'

  4. Nolveys
    Windows

    Trade?

    Zuck for the Huawei CFO? Maybe throw in some oil?

    1. HausWolf

      Re: Trade?

      Ole Zuck is slippery enough, no need to oil him up for the Canadians.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Perhaps....?

    It is time for an international arrest warrant for Zuck? Then he'd have to be very selected about what parts of the world he buys... sorry visits.

    1. Pascal Monett Silver badge

      I second that

      Make it an Interpol warrant, the slime won't be able to dodge that.

  6. John70

    Zuckerberg will most likely decline the "offer", so Canada could always threaten to block Facebook until he does show up.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I would expect Zuckerberg to be bundled into the back of a plain van in the US and suddenly appear in Ottowa, but unfortunately Canadians are too polite to do that.

  8. Spasticus Autisticus
    Devil

    I did ask nicely before but you still want to show the 'borg's face when perhaps Beaker off the Muppets would be better. I don't know if this link will work but maybe this is a reasonable likeness to replace the 'borg's boat - https://browse.startpage.com/do/show_picture.pl?l=english&rais=1&oiu=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.independent.co.uk%2Fs3fs-public%2Fthumbnails%2Fimage%2F2018%2F05%2F04%2F15%2Fthe-muppets-2.jpg&sp=bc8c9b3de4615b0ede6371dbed8ee081&t=default

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Pint

    Headline

    (See icon)

    1. Fatman
      Pint

      Re: Headline

      I liked that headline too,.

      Give one to the editor who conjured it up. -------------------------------------------------------->

  10. phuzz Silver badge
    Facepalm

    "In the first meeting of the international committee, held last Fall in London, England,"

    For a UK based website surely that should read "In the first meeting of the international committee, held last autumn in London"?

    (And if you really insist on disambiguating London, the country should be 'Britain', or the 'UK').

    1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      I generally find that people who say "London, England" are Americans.

      1. N2

        London

        I generally find that people who say "London, England" are Americans.

        Otherwise they mght end up in London Ohio.

        1. itzumee

          Re: London

          Or even London, Ontario

          1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

            Re: London

            I must admit to getting a little confused myself when I need to go to places like Washington, New York, Albany, County Durham, Northumberland, Toronto etc All towns, villages and counties within about 10-30 mins drive of my house. :-)

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    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      @phuzz

      Until the Lisbon Treaty removes nation-state status in 2020, this country is still called England.

      You don't hear of people from Scotland being told to call themselves British. You don't hear of people from Wales being called told to call themselves British.

      So why are people from England told we should call ourselves British, or risk being brought up on racial discrimination charges?

      Of course, after the Lisbon Treaty we will all be residents of the Federated States of Europe, or whatever they decide to call it, so there will be no more nationalities, only Administrative Regions. (Funny how the Remoaners always fail to mention that little part of the plan when telling us how much better off we are letting Brussels run everything...)

      1. phuzz Silver badge
        Facepalm

        Re: @phuzz

        London is the capital city of both England and Britain, and as referring to it as 'London, Britain' includes both England and Britain, that's the phrasing I use.

        It's the same as saying that SATA is a connection used for hard drives, or saying that it's used for storage devices (also including CDROM, SSD's etc.).

        One is a subset of the other, so I'll go for the phrasing that includes all possible uses.

        "So why are people from England told we should call ourselves British, or risk being brought up on racial discrimination charges?"

        That's complete bollocks. And that's not how discrimination works (you can't discriminate against yourself). And calling yourself 'English' is not an offence under the Equality Act 2010, you can call yourself 'Marmalade Fuckface' if you like, it's how you treat other people that's potentially infringing.

        (Of course, if you did feel like discriminating against someone on the basis of their nationality you could just pop over to Europe. UK laws are more stringent on that front).

        "Until the Lisbon Treaty removes nation-state status in 2020"

        The Lisbon Treaty was ratified in 2009 and doesn't have anything to say about the names of countries.

        (It did include provisions for countries to leave the EU though, so we do have the Lisbon Treaty to thank for brexit)

        "Funny how the Remoaners always fail to mention that little part of the plan"

        Because it's made-up lies, the same way no-one complains about how the EU is going to turn us all into small pink ducks, because it's not sodding true.

        1. Alister

          Re: @phuzz

          you can call yourself 'Marmalade Fuckface' if you like,

          Hmmm, strangely appeeling...

        2. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

          Re: @phuzz

          "no-one complains about how the EU is going to turn us all into small pink ducks, because it's not sodding true."

          I expect it to be part of the Brexit party's platform at the forthcoming grandson's day off school. (He's doing well for his last May in primary school - two Bank Holidays and two closures for use as a polling station.)

  11. adam payne

    "We have given our chair the mandate to issue a summons to Mark Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg if they choose not to come before the International Grand Committee," MP Charlie Angus told CBC.

    No doubt they are far too busy to attend but will send someone else. It'll probably be the part time cleaner.

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Or Nick.

      1. Stork

        Who afair is a full time image cleaner

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      And after the cleaner apears in front of the committee

      and since he already made the trip up here, he will go to Canadian head of the government to deliver Zuck's marching orders.

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