back to article Microsoft's Edge on Apple's macOS? It's more likely than you think for new browser

Microsoft may be closer to its first Mac browser in 14 years. "We also expect this work to enable us to bring Microsoft Edge to other platforms like macOS," Joe Belfiore said last December, when he announced the move to a Chromium-based engine for the Edge browser. "Improving the web-platform experience for both end users and …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Oh God...

    "Edge is tightly integrated with Windows 10, allowing Microsoft to claim bragging rights over speed and power consumption" - er how? Windows runs as well as an old three-legged dog on Valium, and is almost as efficient and useful as Chris Grayling.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Oh God...

      "Windows runs as well as an old three-legged dog on Valium, and is almost as efficient and useful as Chris Grayling."

      Windows 10 consistently beats the latest Ubuntu on battery life and performance test benchmarks.

      1. dajames

        Re: Oh God...

        Windows 10 consistently beats the latest Ubuntu on battery life and performance test benchmarks.

        Irrelevant ... how does Chris Grayling fare in those tests?

  2. Joseph Haig

    IE for UNIX?

    I remember seeing IE (version 5, I think) for UNIX years ago. I did wonder if Chromium based Edge could bring it back from the dead. Edge on Linux? Who knows? I still think that Microsoft are going to copy Apple one day and rebuild Windows based on BSD or Linux.

    1. TheVogon

      Re: IE for UNIX?

      "I still think that Microsoft are going to copy Apple one day and rebuild Windows based on BSD or Linux."

      Why would they do that? You can already run Linux userland under the Windows kernel.

      1. Updraft102

        Re: IE for UNIX?

        Because it would allow them to offload the kernel development cost to someone else, just as they are with Edge. MS has its head up... er, in the cloud these days, and it doesn't really matter how one gets to the cloud. Not that I'm saying they will do this, but if they were going to, it would be right in line with what they've done with Edge.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: IE for UNIX?

          Windows has a modern hybrid microkernel architecture. There pretty much are no kernel development costs as everything is modular and almost all of Windows is outside of the kernel.

          It makes far more sense to run other OSs under such a kernel than under a monolithic kernel.

  3. anthonyhegedus Silver badge

    That sort of leaves Safari out in the cold

    What about Safari? It seems that Edge, Chrome, Firefox and all the others are available for all platforms (Windows, MacOS, iOS, Android, Linux) but Safari will be the only 'mainstream' browser that isn't available on Windows. It used to be.

    1. chivo243 Silver badge

      Re: That sort of leaves Safari out in the cold

      "Safari will be the only 'mainstream' browser that isn't available on Windows. It used to be."

      What train wreck Safari on Windows was. Even my Mac-Die-Hard friends shied away from that one.

      1. anthonyhegedus Silver badge

        Re: That sort of leaves Safari out in the cold

        Yes, there's no denying it was a train-wreck.

        On my Mac I end up using firefox, chrome and safari. Should I get my coat because I use safari?

      2. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

        Re: That sort of leaves Safari out in the cold

        What train wreck Safari on Windows was

        Much like every other Mac-centric code that Apple has produced. Like iTunes - barely tolerable on a Mac, utterly unusable on Windows. Likewise various utilities (Bonjour browser et. al).

        It's almost like the Apple devs don't really know much about writing code for Windows.

    2. JLV Silver badge
      Trollface

      Re: That sort of leaves Safari out in the cold

      Safari on Windows is about as useful as Edge on macOS.

      teats on a boar in other words

      not that either’s really all that great even in their native habitats

  4. katrinab Silver badge
    WTF?

    Macs already come with a perfectly functional firefox downloading tool, so why would you need to install another one?

  5. Richard Tobin
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    Don't want it

    It will mean that web developers can get away with building Edge-only sites.

    1. mark l 2 Silver badge

      Re: Don't want it

      Well Edge has nowhere near the market share it would need for developers to start targeting it.

      Edge on Android which is just a version that runs on top of a Chrome engine has been available for quite a while yet the play store shows it only has 5 million+ installs, compared to Firefox that has 100 million or Chrome which has over 1 billion installs.

      Another thing is that MS need to win around a lot of bad press it received with the POS that was IE, lot of people still perceive that Edge is just as bad and will be reluctant to trust MS with anything browser related every again.

    2. doublelayer Silver badge

      Re: Don't want it

      People can't design edge-only sites without having a lot of problems. They could do that with IE because IE had its own rendering engine that could be changed to produce different functionality than other browsers and the spec. Microsoft just took someone else's rendering engine. It can't really do that anymore. A site that works on edge will also work on any chromium browser, and because firefox/gecko supports most of the frameworks chromium does, it'll work well in that too. Of course, a bad designer can break this, but it's a lot easier to do a chrome-only site than it is to do an edge-only one.

    3. a_yank_lurker

      Re: Don't want it

      Since it is built on Chrome, not likely to occur. The Blink rendering is used by many other browsers and Slurp does not have final say on the release.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Don't want it

        "and Slurp does not have final say on the release."

        So Google don't have any final say in it? interesting.

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Don't want it

      Honestly ? Edge or $nameYourFavouriteBrowser, incomptent good for nothing designers (and their associated code monkeys who write the code) who still think that in 2019 that a browser restricted website is an acceptable idea are the sort of people who deserve to be incarcerated for life without parole.

  6. karlkarl Silver badge

    Why doesn't Microsoft just provide Edge as a plugin for Chrome and be done with it? ;)

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Exactly. This is a complete non-story. NEWSFLASH: Chrome comes to OS X!

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Because some improvements actually require own build

      Because they have made hundreds of commits to Chromium that haven't or won't find their way into Chrome, genius.

  7. mylittlepwny

    I can't think of anything I'd want less on my Mac.

    1. Fred Flintstone Gold badge

      Windows?

      :)

  8. Sgt_Oddball
    Windows

    You barstewards.....

    I'd finally managed to forget about Internet explorer for mac (I.e. 5.5 if memory serves was the version I used). One of the worst browsers I've have ever had to use, fit only for masochists. I'd have chosen to use a WAP browser on an old Nokia over that misguided attempt at surfing the net.

    Bleh, now I need to find the booze cupboard so I can forget the sordid mess again.

  9. Alan Bourke

    It makes about as much sense

    As the abortive Windows version of Safari

    1. Sgt_Oddball
      Pint

      Re: It makes about as much sense

      I'd forgotten about that... On the flip side I never had to use it in anger so I'll just have an involuntary shudder and move on, at least until beer o'clock.

      1. Geoffrey W

        Re: It makes about as much sense

        Using it in anger was probably the only way anyone ever used it.

  10. timrowledge

    No. Just, no. No way, no how. Damn thing doesn’t even work properly on a damn windows lump.

    1. Geoffrey W

      Yes it does. In what way doesn't it work properly? Elucidate...?

  11. Colin Ritman

    Missing cite

    "Previews of ChromiEdge have been generally well received, comparing favourably to Google's implementation, "

    I tried it, and it felt and worked inferior to chrome, I ditched it after a day and went back to chrome, which was superior in every way

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