Dog poo vigilantes
I don't approve of dog poo as kids used to trek it in after playing in the park and when we got a dog I knew what I had to do with the poo.
The dog poo vigilantes are a pain in the poo nozzle though.
Is there anything more triumphantly British than fields strewn with dog toffee? Well, there is now: fields strewn with dog toffee with Union Jacks proudly planted in them. We all know the feeling – the gradual injurious waft assaulting the nostrils as it dawns on us that we skidded through a clump of excrement kindly left in …
years ago someone(s) were putting GW Bush flags in dog poo around certain cities.
I think someone should put Cali-fornicate-you flags in HUMAN poo in San Francisco...
or maybe Nancy Pelosi flags... or Jerry Brown flags... or Gavin "Nuisance" flags! Because, their policies CREATE the problem.
[if I were S.F. Mayor I'd hire a bulldozer + firehose crew to clean it up in under a week]
At least that's how it sounds from reading El Reg. If they're going to have it, might as well using that
facial fecal recognition technology for something useful! Then you don't need "vigilantes" to flag the poo, the cops can mail a ticket to their house!
Watching mainstream news try and cram a Brexit angle into everything even vaguely tangential is tedious. Having ElReg add it to things completely irrelevant is annoying.
If it's about, or affected by, Brexit then shout about it. But bringing it up in irrelevant articles just turns the comments into the same old predictable bollocks from both sides.
Fucking dog owners. Every one of them I meet claims it's not them, yet I see them standing chatting when they meet their fellow dog owners while the dogs run off and do whatever they fancy for a while. The thing is this - do dog owners all keep their eyes on the dogs 100% of the time when they're off the lead?
I suspect there's a certain amount of deliberate blind eyes being turned, "oh nobody comes down here" or "it's only next to the path".
It got a LOT better in the 1990s - it was totally unacceptable to let your dog foul public areas; but I've noticed over the years since then it has become worse and worse and people don't give a shit any more (or give far too many shits depending on how you look at it)
If we're doing the blame game...
How about menstruating women who leave bathrooms looking like a serial killer just visited. I haven't actually had the pleasure of witnessing this but have done so vicariously when my better half has emerged from some bathroom looking pale and bulge cheeked.
Or more appropriately to this web site, people who drink too much beer the night before and end up with explosive evacuations at the rear end leaving the bathroom unusable and running away without cleaning before anyone knows who dun it.
Let's face it; human beings can be pretty objectionable critters. I still love em though.
I don't need to watch my dog 100% of the time when off the lead. Because he's properly trained. He knows where he's allowed to poo (mostly close to the bins) and when he's done it, that's it for the morning or afternoon.
I am a dog owner who is pretty peed off with irresponsible dog owners. I don't want ours banned from public spaces because of them.
As a dog owner myself, irresponsible owners piss me off. Where I often walk our dog, you do occasionally see a discarded pile in a stupid place, yet the wheelie bins at the entrance to the park are usually pretty much full after a couple of weeks, showing that a vast majority around here do clean up after their dog. Unfortunately the odd tosser gives the rest of us a bad name.
It is correct however when some dog owners turn a blind eye, but IMO it does depend where it is. Leaving a pile because it is only "next to the path" is utterly unacceptable. My approach is if I can get to it, I'll clean it. On the odd occasion our dog has "done the business" half way down an overgrown river bank, I have to admit to leaving that one. I'm not going to risk slipping into the river to collect it and it is well out of everyone's way. Unfortunately, a minority of dog owners do look for any excuse to leave the pile behind, even when it is clearly visible and clearly accessible.
I'm not a dog owner, but I do run and mountain bike etc. in a lot of places that people like to walk their dogs also; and most of those owners I see do make sure they clean up after their four legged companion - but to your point... it's the same down our way. The bins are always overflowing with dogshit to the point where normal litter cannot be put in them. It's all a bit grim, especially in summer when it all gets a bit, err... ripe? I think the rules are right, but as usual, not enough thought or manpower put into how to run or enforce them.
But... horses shitting all over the roads and pavements? That's ok is it? Now that's a real problem round our way.
When I wor a lad there wuz still the occasional rag ‘n’ bone man plying his trade throughout London with horse and cart. Time before that such conveyances were ubiquitous : milk, beer etc
Residents didn’t mind. Shovel at the ready to give their tomatoes and beans a dollop of organic goodness.
‘Course, back then most everyone grew vegetables in the back garden.
To give perspective one of my uncles kept chickens - yes, in a residential area of London - just after WWII. I don’t think their detritus qualified as fertiliser.
"But... horses shitting all over the roads and pavements? That's ok is it? Now that's a real problem round our way."
You've not lived in the country and experienced a herd of cattle being moved down the road for miliking to all decide simultaneously to "relieve themselves" outside your house .... parts of the road were pretty much "under water" as a result!
Where I live the incidence of wild pooing seems to be minimal, not only do dog owners seem to clear up after themselves I've even been approached by a very embarrassed owned who saw me with my dog to beg a poo bag as he had accidentally run out.
Friends and colleagues often reach into pockets and handbags to retrieve something and inadvertently come out with a handful of poo bags. I have them stuffed into the pocket of every jacket I wear outside, keep a roll of them in both cars and as a side effect often end up with spectacularly clean bags after they have been through a wash cycle. We are also thankfully not often greeted by the 'black fruit' hanging from bushes and, like myself, I have often seen well dressed people sauntering along my favourite canal side walk nonchalantly swinging a filled poo bag or two as the next bin is 3/4 mile away. This must be the benefit of living in a 'backward' rural county.
We're not too bad locally, HOWEVER there are some who don't bother and sadly its all too often the "senior" members of the community who are most guilty, along with social climbing ladies (who often use the most unladylike language when asked to clean up after their dog and then deny their dog was the culprit) along with daytrippers.
I also have a myriad of bags on me, in the car, in various jackets, trouser pockets etc....
Then again we have our subset of denizens, 3 of whom are currently on trial for a brutal murder and then burning the victim in his car (possibly while still alive) and who had plenty of acolytes on the local farcebook page backing up their abuse of those who complained about agricultural workers failing to remove mud from the roads (both were farm workers and classed themselves above the law),with such gems as "get out of our fucking toon if you know whats good for you" "its the country I can dae what I want tae" etc etc etc........wonder how many will suddenly deny they ever spoke to those 3 I wonder....
from England or Colne, Lancashire for that matter.
BUT, sounds like some of the residents have gone to dogs to me.
Really should do sometime about that $hitty attitude some pooch owners apparently have ...
Excuse me, I have to take my pet gorilla out for his morning constitutional ....
A rather novel solution, and where I live a lot of apartments are starting to require owners with dogs to sign up. Leave poop behind? They DNA match it to the dog/owner. Pretty much solves the "It wasn't MY dog." excuse. (pooprints.com - and no, I have no affiliation. I just think it's a good idea.)
Working for a local authority with some oversight of complaints I can confidently state that the #2 cause of complaints is dog shit (no numerical pun intended).
#1 is bin collections; but that's 90% lying bastards that have forgotten to put theirs out.
I've got sympathy for the dog shit complainants since I regularly find a pile left by some lazy fucker outside my house.
A well-trained dog knows where not to go, and that includes anywhere a human might tread.
I've yet to meet the horse that was well-trained in that department. Their (much bigger) stinking piles routinely get left where they're a menace, up to and including literally on the doorstep of where I used to live. And the equine set couldn't give a ****.
Comparing horse vs dog shit is just dog owners trying to cloud the issue.
There are about 20 times as many dogs as horses in UK.
Dog owners routinely take their dog out for a public crap twice a day, horses spend most of their time in a field and usually exercised in fields, occasionally on public ROADS not the pavement (sidewalk for US readers!).
I remember as a kid, if a horse crapped in our street a gardener would be out with a shovel to collect it for their garden, it's good fertiliser and we even used to have an occasional guy with a lorry-load selling horse manure door to door. Never seen that with dog-shit, rather the opposite, seen those little areas of dead grass where a dog crapped - yes, rather than fertiliser, dog shit is toxic to plants. (Maybe bag it up and sell it as weed-killer?).
Dog shit can include pathogens including: Whipworms, Hookworms, Roundworms, Tapeworms, Parvo, Corona, Giardiasis, Salmonellosis, Cryptosporidiosis, Campylobacteriosis many of which can affect humans and can lie dormant in the soil for years.
Horse shit is comparatively "clean", capable of hosting far less variety of pathogens and the only human risks are likely to be from sick horses and its the veterinary surgeon who's at risk.
If you step on a dog shit it stinks and you're rightfully angry, a horse shit is more visible and if you do step on it you won't immediately be looking for a way to clean it off, just take a glance, it's mostly the indigestible bits of grass.
There's a big difference between carnivore and herbivore shit, rabbits commonly eat their own shit as fermentation processes release more nutrients so they are effectively doubling the length of their intestines. (I'm led to believe human vegetarians don't normally follow that example).
I'm not one of "the equine set" but neither am I a defender of the right for dog owners to disregard their dog's twice a day shits in public parks and footpaths.
"#1 is bin collections; but that's 90% lying bastards that have forgotten to put theirs out."
Allow me to describe a complaint I filed against my council:
- They didn't collect bins from 12 houses for a period of 3 months.
- Collections were sporadic, random, and never at their assigned times.
- I complained, they ignored.
- Neighbours complained, they ignored.
- So I did my usual - full, no-holds-barred, complaint-flurry with follow-up.
Literally, the bin lorries were taking it upon themselves to not bother with the last part of the street, because that would mean doubling-back down other roads they've already done (it wasn't a dead-end, just the end of a street that met another two streets). They never came back and didn't bother to collect unless an enormous fuss was made, when they'd collect once at random and then claim "the bins weren't out" (of course not, we get fined if we put them out on a non-bin day!).
Full-complaint mode revealed that they'd rather target me explicitly, trying to fine me for putting the bins out wrong, throwing the wrong stuff in the bin, letting bins overflow (YOU DON'T BLOODY COLLECT THEM!), etc. etc.
However, there was one teensy, tiny downside to their assertion:
I had CCTV footage, 24/7/365.25. Covering the entirety of my front garden, the road beyond and anyone collecting (or not) my rubbish. Going back six months. When this was revealed, they hastily retracted all such claims. They also claimed that "I'd put non-recyclable rubbish in the recycling bin hence why it wasn't collected". Either they have long-distance X-ray vision, or they never even actually turned up to look at the bin, much less make a decision on its contents. And, as I pointed out, even if true, just "not taking" the rubbish is no good unless you put a flag or leaflet or something explaining one (because otherwise people could make up any old cobblers not to take it and how the hell would I know?).
Then I got them into the papers with my complaint letter, and handily revealed the fact that the councillor in charge of waste management just-so-happened to own the waste management firm (and hadn't properly registered that interest *cough*). I received a very hasty apology and not once was our rubbish left uncollected again.
The best part, though. "Oh, you live in XXXXX Lane? Well, our manager lives in that same road, so obviously he's collecting your rubbish!". Really, mate? You give me the time, date, vehicle registration, and I'll provide you the footage of him doing just that. Because I *do* have footage of every time, date in the last six months. And he's not on any of them. Do you want that footage?
and handily revealed the fact that the councillor in charge of waste management just-so-happened to own the waste management firm
... the never-ending blessings of privatization 001.
Incidentally, I've never understood the doctrine that local people will be more efficient and 'better' at performing local duties than a distant faceless authority.
[ They may be, however much I doubt it --- it's just that there is no reasoning to suggest anything of the kind. ]
I believe that responsible Labrador owners manage to remove all their own dog poo and a huge amount of horse, fox and cow poo too, my own dog even managed to come home encrusted in rotten salmon after going for a roll on the backs of the river Tweed when the salmon were in spate. if you own a Lab you better have a strong stomach and an outside tap.
" Brer Fox has a tendency to leave his excretions on a raised object"
We've just built a raised bed to grow veg in and have discovered this the hard way .... at least we managed to prevent the fox from raising cubs under our garden shed this year (managed to block the entrance they used after they'd moved on) so hopefuly we can avoid the cub dying on the patio scenario again.
To link it to the bin collection comments - foxes also seem to enjoy collecting plastic from recycling bins (espcially student house next door who regularily put recycling in the wrong boxes so it isn't collected for several weeks) and bringing it into our garden.
As a fellow commentard once pointed out, the better solution is to make the offending turds more appetising by generously applying bacon grease or barbecue sauce (depending on availability). The local wildlife will then diligently dispose of the now dressed doings.
Fittingly, if the source animal is regular in terms of location, they may be the one on whom the duty falls.
Some might admire El Reg's dogged pursuit of sh?tty journalism. However, I can do without this formerly beloved publication screwing the pooch through a veritable diarreah of articles about hound mounds, about which I obviously don't give a crap. The endless streams of articles about fecal matters make me want to evacuate this website.
I can't understand the thinking of those dog owners who;
pull a fresh poo-bag from the pack,
put it over their hand,
bend down and scoop up the fresh pile of poo into the bag,
hold the poo securely while unfolding the bag over their hand,
tie a neat bow in the bag securing the poo inside,
then dump the whole lot in the middle of the footpath.
Maybe they just like the feel of a handful of warm shite.
if you pickup said dog mess and throw in to their open car window. This I found to also be fun :P
I have also found that throwing McDees milkshakes back in to a car window pisses the driver and passenger off :D
I must add that I ride a motorbike which works well for a get away :P
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