back to article Good news, Man City fans: You can watch your team lose the title in on-demand 3D

One of the most maddening aspects of live sports may not just disappear in the next two years but may actually become, well, awesome. Unless you are lucky enough to have season tickets for your favorite team, thanks to the mosaic of contracts and agreements that exist around live footage, it can often be hours or days before …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    It's a nice idea but Liverpool aren't winning the league, they'll slip up.

    I think this will fail due to the rights, the current system is bidding on multiple packages (7) meaning you have pay multiple providers (Rip off) and they paid an eye watering 5.14 billion, so the only way this is going to succeed is if the rights holders want to invest in the technology themselves but as they are already paying so much will they do it? On top of that you can't show Saturday 3pm kick offs so it can't replace season tickets (this was put in place to protect the income from gate receipts of lower league clubs, they also do collective rights so you don't end up with a situation where the top 6 sell their own rights and take all the money). It might work in foreign countries though. I also don't know how useful it will be, if you're watching a match live you aren't really going to faffing about lining up different replay angles while the match is being played, you might at half time or after the match. As for 20 second delay people put up with anything up to that on streams so it's not a huge issue.

    1. MrMerrymaker

      Sigh, the reg was just doing its usual negative humour

      Lo and behold some football fan decides to take that as a cue to insult another team

      Focus on the IT angle yeah?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        The soccer fans that can't take a joke are up I see.

    2. jmch Silver badge

      IT angle - Sounds like very interesting and cool technology. I guess the idea is to have an interface such as Google Street View where a user can zoom, pan and move around, but live. As mentioned in the article, most people watching live will do so from the live feed because that's the optimal viewing position, but it's great for video montages, tactical analysis, seeing things from a particular players' perspective... opens up a lot of possibilities. Also, I guess, to be able to have better angle for a Video Assistant Referee to be able to make a disputed call on*.

      Rights angle - This is, truly, a giant mess. 'Plurality' is supposed to mean that you can get an offering from multiple providers. Splitting up rights packages just means that you have multiple different monopolies, all of which you have to pay if you want access to the whole thing. From a consumer point of view, I want to be able to choose the same match or set of matches from multiple providers, or choose an individual match at a reasonable price without having to subscribe to a package. That's not happening because all the providers think in terms of monopoly and lock-in. It's crazy that it's often easier and cheaper to see a match abroad and locally, and that's not just for UK but most / all major leagues.

      Football angle - The Premier league this season is bloody amazing. Quite possibly 2 teams will record 2 of the 3 highest-ever points totals in history. Whoever comes second, it will still have been a great achievement and a fantastic season. Just sit back and enjoy instead of slagging off this or that team, won't you?

      *Not that they still won't make mistakes and/or manage to displease half the stadium, mind you

  2. Chris G

    It's bad enough already

    If I go into a Spanish bar looking for a refreshing beer while a major event is on the telly, the barista will hold the glass in one hand, the bottle in the other while watching the action and then pour my beer over his left foot.

    As has been said before sport is okay but like sex, it's better when you are a participant.

    1. Pascal Monett Silver badge
      Coat

      Personally, I prefer sex.

      Right, I'm out.

      1. Teiwaz

        Personally,

        Preferences of sex over sport

        I seem to be last picked for either throughout my life.

        At least a bad position in sex lasts less than standing by the goal in the freezing cold and rain and is generally indoors.

  3. Korev Silver badge
    Mushroom

    But football (both American and soccer)

    Heathen.

    1. BigSLitleP

      Which bit? The part where he spoke about the fantastic sport that is Gridiron or the fact that he called Association Football by it's shorter and England-created name, soccer?

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      "Heathen"

      Totally agree. As any fule kno, "football" refers to a game played to the rules of the Rugby Football Union - at least that was the case when/where I was at school

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Paying to watch televised sport?

    Never understood that.

    Each to their own.

  5. Charlie Clark Silver badge

    Pricing

    Would you pay £5 a month to be able to watch your team however you want whenever you want?

    I probably would but there is no way the clubs will want to charge so little, even £5 a match is below their expectations, and pay per view is where they want to go.

    1. Teiwaz

      Re: Pricing

      and pay per view is where they want to go

      Have we not been there for some time with some hyped up sports?

      I thought we were already in the realms of booking a cheap surgeon for hocking bodyparts???

  6. Prst. V.Jeltz Silver badge

    Seems like a fancier version of the 'hawkeye' thing they have in snooker.

    Given that football has so far taken 100 years and counting to implement a bloody obvious technology:

    - put a camera on the goal line to see if the ball went over it.

    - let the referee have a look at the footage*

    It may take a while to bring this thing in

    *its ironic the only person not allowed to watch the replays after a goal / foul / dive is the referee.

    resulting in everyone except the person making the decision knowing what happened.

    If i gave a fuck about football i'd probly find that frustrating, rather than comical.

  7. mix

    It's the way it's going...

    As the technology gets better it's not stretch to believe that one day even the players will be wearing a camera for "player's view". The ref's will likely get it first.

  8. Chris G

    Just wait

    'Til the porn industry gets hold of this tech!

    You will get to see things you never knew you wanted to see ( and probably still don't)

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Just wait

      You have just invoked Rule 34 and it already exists at least according to a friend of mine who has a VR setup.

      1. jmch Silver badge
        Devil

        Re: Just wait

        "...at least according to a friend of mine..."

        yes, a 'friend'. Of course!

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    This is not new

    Tech like this has already been tried and mostly already failed in English football. Multiple angles are already available to be shown immediately after an incident, and even more after the game when there is more time to view them without missing any of the live match. I have no idea why anyone thinks it takes "hours or days" to get a good view of an important incident? The contracts keep the action rights-holder exclusive only until midnight the same day of the match, at which point it is available elsewhere, e.g. other channels showing both the full match and highlights packages, live matches are shown on the clubs own websites just after midnight, etc.

    Some of the bigger teams (e.g. Manchester United) already have many cameras installed both at their stadiums and even their training grounds, covering every angle, facial expression, etc. in some detail. These seem to be primarily used for performance analysis, as for the fans nobody seems to gives a shit as the TV companies already use the 'best angles' for the action and replays. Nobody who ever viewed a 'player cam' would ever think you could watch a game with one, they are unwatchable and far worse than what is already available.

    The strikes me more as a tech looking for a reason to exist, it is not a solution to any real problem I am aware of.

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