Great Scott! Is nothing sacred? US movie-goers vote Back To The Future as most-wanted reboot
It's been clear for decades that Hollywood is almost completely out of ideas and nothing is sacred when mining the past for inspiration. Disney, not content with flogging Marvel's back catalogue until everyone's sick to death of it, has set about rebooting its animated classics in live-action (read: CGI) remakes (I mean, you …
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Monday 26th November 2018 16:44 GMT Aladdin Sane
I believe this is still relevant
But you know I saw this movie this year called last year called er, 'Basic Instinct'. Okay now. Bill's quick capsule review: Piece-of-Shit. Okay now. Yeah, yeah, end of story by the way. Don't get caught up in that fevered hype phoney fucking debate about that Piece-of-Shit movie. "Is it too sexist, and what about the movies, are they becoming too dddddddd." You're, you're just confused, you don't get, you've forgotten how to judge correctly. Take a deep breath huuh, look at it again. "Oh it's a Piece-of-Shit!" Exactly, that's all it is. Satan squatted, let out a loaf, they put a fucking title on it, put it on a marquee, Satan's shit, piece of shit, walk away. "But is it too, what about the lesbian connot.. ddddd." You're, you're getting really baffled here. Piece-of-Shit! Now walk away. That's all it is, it's nothing more! Free yourself folks, if you see it, Piece-of-Shit, say it and walk away. You're right! You're right! Not those fuckers who want to tell you how to think! You're fucking right! Sorry wrong meeting again. I keep getting my days mixed up. tomorrow, it's the meeting at the docks. Tonight it's comedy entertainment with young Bill. Horrible film. And then I come to find out after that film. that all the lesbian sex scenes, let me repeat that, all the lesbian sex scenes were cut out of that film, because the test audience was turned off by them. Ha. Boy, is my thumb not on the pulse of America.
Bill Hicks
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Tuesday 27th November 2018 08:20 GMT Adelio
Reboots
Some are ok, some are appalling
The "new" ghostbusters was in the appalling category.
If you HAVE to do a reboot PLEASE
1. Do NOT repeat an existing film
2. Actually get a good script. Spend money, Take your time and get the script right. It is "easy" to make a good looking film with CGI BUT without a good story it is just a wast of money.
If you have a good story then this will shine through.
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Tuesday 27th November 2018 16:10 GMT John Brown (no body)
Re: Reboots
"If you have a good story then this will shine through."
Most of the listed proposed re-makes/re-boots are SF films. There's an enourmouse amount of decent SF books out there that have never made it to the big (or small) screen. Often because they were visually difficult or impossible to make previously. I mean, a quick scan through the Hugo or Nebula winners might be a good place to start.
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Thursday 29th November 2018 14:28 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Reboots
Most of the listed proposed re-makes/re-boots are SF films. There's an enourmouse amount of decent SF books out there that have never made it to the big (or small) screen. Often because they were visually difficult or impossible to make previously.
Correct. Ready Player One made it to screen, Snow Crash might never. Ender's Game tried hard.
A Judge Dredd sequel? A re-remake of Total Recall [good this time]?
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Monday 26th November 2018 19:54 GMT bombastic bob
Re: what the people want
"but it's all too crude and/or violent."
And therefore, FUN (instead of 'saturday morning schlock for the widdle kiddies').
ESPECIALLY nauseating when the aforementioned SCHLOCK contains all of those 'parental lessons' embedded within them. [cartoons are supposed to be FUN, not an attempt at Disney doing parents' jobs for them].
/me fondly remembers Animaniacs, which I have the great fortune to have seen for the FIRST time as an adult [so I got all of the jokes].
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Tuesday 27th November 2018 08:45 GMT Matthew Taylor
Re: what the people want
"ESPECIALLY nauseating when the aforementioned SCHLOCK contains all of those 'parental lessons' embedded within them. [cartoons are supposed to be FUN, not an attempt at Disney doing parents' jobs for them]."
Inspector Gadget springs to mind. As a young'un I felt personally insulted by that programme. It's creators must have considered me especially dim, if they thought I wouldn't notice the plodding do-gooder messages sprinkled throughout it.
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Tuesday 27th November 2018 18:20 GMT scott2718282828
Re: what the people want
Live action Road Runner has already been done - The Villain from 1979.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080097/
Arnold Schwartzenegger as the Road Runner, Kirk Douglas as the Coyote, Ann-Margaret just because. Looks like a western, but has a lot of old Road Runner gags.
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Monday 26th November 2018 16:55 GMT Steven Raith
Hmm.
I'd suggest whomever they polled have never actually seen any of the more recent reboots.
I mean, name one that is anything other than 'better than expected', when 'expected' has become 'utterly godawful' lately.
Steven "it's OK though, the originals will still be enjoyable so don't stress too much" R
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Monday 26th November 2018 23:00 GMT Steven Raith
Re: originals will still be enjoyable
"They should make a new version of Star Wars Holiday Special - I want to see the funny shenanigans of Jar Jar and his family!"
I don't wanna see Jar Jars dad watching the equivalent of cross species porn, though.
(seriously that was one weird sequence in the Holiday Special...)
Steven R
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Monday 26th November 2018 17:09 GMT Lee D
Re: Hmm.
I think you're right.
I hate "sequels/remakes for the sake of it". That kills so many franchises for me.
Bladerunner, Total Recall, Ghostbusters, all kinds of things have been ruined by re-makes.
Very, very, very few movies series ever get the momentum going... I was honestly surprised that MiB3 was actually as good as it turned out (mainly cos I love the little time-guy character, and they cast the "young" K really well).
Even Aliens was killed by the "too many sequels" thing and they STILL keep banging on it and the Predator franchises.
Some things are just better left alone. Don't even get me started on "The" Italian Job...
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Monday 26th November 2018 20:04 GMT bombastic bob
Re: Hmm.
"Bladerunner, Total Recall, Ghostbusters, all kinds of things have been ruined by re-makes."
Add 'The Day the Earth Stood Still'. A perfect example of why NOT to do a remake.
Klaatu. Barada. Nikto [mumble mumble mumble]. Heh.
(I hear "they" wanna do a remake of THAT movie, too - the one where the protagonist says that shoutout phrase like a magic incantation, improperly, and comedy ensues - I have the DVD but for those who haven't seen it, let them google for it, heh)
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Monday 26th November 2018 20:13 GMT Steven Raith
Re: Hmm.
They want to remake Army of Darkness?
I'm not sure how they can do that, given that it's basically a loose story tied around Bruce Campbells ability to do physical comedy, ham it up, and spit out false bravado like it was going out of fashion. The rest of the plot is fine, but is basically an excuse to do some neat practical effects.
Steven R
(army of darkness is genuinely one of my all time favourite films, so I might be biased)
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Thursday 29th November 2018 21:54 GMT Steven Raith
Re: Hmm.
Ash Vs Evil Dead was cracking good fun.
The, I think, penultimate episode ending musical sting was very good.
Only three series, but all three were very good and worth a watch if you like comedy, gore (lots of gore) and some reasonably atmospheric horror elements - and of course, with Lucy Lawless and Brucey in there, more ham than a pork factory.
Dana DeLorenzo and Ray Santiago were, it must be said, also well matched to the series too.
Better to go a bit early while good than to go on too long and get....well, look at the Simpsons.
Steven R
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Monday 26th November 2018 20:11 GMT Robert Helpmann??
Re: Hmm.
For every great remake, there are a hundred reheated, rehashed and regurgitated movies and TV shows. I can think of only four remakes or reboots I enjoyed*. That's a remarkably bad return on all the time and effort and put into the productions.
* The only exceptions to this I can think of are movies based on Shakespeare**
** Other than anything having to do with Romeo and Juliet. I just want them to kick off and be done with it. I can't help it. They're so annoying!
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Monday 26th November 2018 22:05 GMT Teiwaz
Re: what about Galactica?
YES, Galactica, where that main 'hunky man' was replaced by a woman?? thoughts please...
To be fair 'Face man' was a really crap actor....
Even his best effort (the episode that wrote out his character Robinson Crusoe style) was only a fair to middling effort.
As to 'hunky' - people are weird - 'Starbuck' in male or female form could never be considered a reliable love interest, a self absorbed car crash personality in both cases.
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Monday 26th November 2018 20:13 GMT bombastic bob
forcing women into 'remake' character roles
"This time, 'Marty' will be a woman"
This would, after all, empower Holly-weird SJW-types to forcibly cram "this is how it was in the 1950's which is why we do not return to it" exaggerated 'misogyny' (their definition of it). As entertainment. And indoctrination.
and when THAT kind of thing happens, their ticket sales reflect audience desire to NOT have politics crammed at them when they go to the movies to ESCAPE it...
There seem to be a lot of crapsack-world post-apocalytpic movies, too. Where's the _ENTERTAINMENT_ in THAT kind of "doom/gloom" everywhere? I thought people went to the movies to have FUN? ['feeding the WRONG wolf', to quote another movie that's QUITE a bit more positive, something that was NOT a remake, either - it sets the doom/gloomers up as either the BAD guys, or those who've given up, and the young millenial protagonist as AN OPTIMIST, despite everything]
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Tuesday 27th November 2018 13:39 GMT not.known@this.address
Re: Great Scott!
"'a queer'? Nice one, bigot."
Dangerous opinion here, but why do you let silly people calling you names hurt you so much? Just ignore them, they aren't worth getting upset over. I was crap at sports at school and wore glasses, so you should be able to work out what my childhood was like most of the time.
I didn't go crying to teacher every time someone called me a nasty name, I IGNORED THEM. It's only words and if you refuse to let them get to you then guess what? You can survive. You will survive. Even if they refuse to use your real name, calling you whatever makes them "happy", let them get on with it. Their words do not make you any more or less valuable as a member of society, it just shows them up as small-minded bullies.
We don't need laws and committees to stop verbal abuse, we just need to show the "victims" that they are not the ones with a problem.
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Tuesday 27th November 2018 16:27 GMT John Brown (no body)
Re: Great Scott!
"'a queer'? Nice one, bigot."
That's a nasty assumption there. Are you offended on your own behalf or on behalf of someone else? How do you know that the poster doesn't self-identify as "queer"? One of my colleagues does and takes great delight in outraging those who take offence on behalf of others on a night out :-p
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Wednesday 28th November 2018 10:38 GMT Mooseman
Re: Great Scott!
You can tell a lot about someone's attitude by the language they use. Sorry, the "mangled into a queer" phrase dripped venom and casual unpleasantness.
And no its not about essentially "growing a pair" - if you are constantly belittled and insulted and are then told to essentially "get over it" it shows that you don't have a clue.
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Wednesday 28th November 2018 17:01 GMT Luiz Abdala
Re: Great Scott!
They hinted left and right she liked girls. They didn't need to do that. Hence, "mangled". The former show worked without it.
If it was her daughter, it would be A-OK, regardless of her sexuality, implied or not. That's what makes reboots so bad, in general: try to do something never mentioned in the original.
Venom and casual unpleasantness, excellent, I liked those. Fit for purpose.
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Monday 26th November 2018 17:11 GMT WallMeerkat
Do it in style
What car would they use? There is nothing like the iconic DeLorean DMC12 in production today. No doubt some manufacturer would see it as a golden marketing oppurtunity, but given the current US car market about the only choices are SUVs.
How long would it take a 2 ton SUV to get up to 88mph?
At least they could go back in time to the early 1900s, when tall, square shaped, big wheeled cars were last in fashion, and not look out of place.
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Monday 26th November 2018 19:00 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Do it in style
What car? Clearly a Tesla. Marty will still be an idiot who struggles to outrace a VW van loaded down with terrorists despite driving a vehicle capable of hitting 88 MPH in about 50 feet.
I for one am looking forward to the reboot, mostly for the rebooted sequel, so that I can get a super accurate preview of what 2050 will look like!
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Monday 26th November 2018 23:31 GMT Down not across
Re: Do it in style
What car? Clearly a Tesla. Marty will still be an idiot who struggles to outrace a VW van loaded down with terrorists despite driving a vehicle capable of hitting 88 MPH in about 50 feet.
Might take bit longer than that. DMC12 was bit underpowered compared to its looks.
The movie was accurate in one way though, the original alternator was too weak and battery would end up flat if everything was turned on. Later cars did have better alternator.
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Tuesday 27th November 2018 13:47 GMT phuzz
Re: Do it in style
"There is nothing like the iconic DeLorean DMC12 in production today."
There's two iconic things about the Delorian: it's looks, and the fact that it was a massive flop.
Any replacement would need to tick both of these boxes, so Tesla doesn't qualify.
Mind you, I guess they do share the 'larger than life founder who you can imagine ending up in a drug deal'...
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Tuesday 27th November 2018 08:01 GMT veti
Re: Not just no
Hear, hear. BttF is probably the best movie trilogy ever released, and I for one am not about to lend even a sliver of encouragement to those who would batten their own lack of talent on its quality.
Heck, I'd rather see a remake of Monty Python and the Holy Grail. With Tom Hanks and Jim Carrey, and the inevitable cameo by director Quentin Tarantino.
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Monday 26th November 2018 20:17 GMT bombastic bob
Re: Reboot Avatar? Yuck!
yes, the comparison between how American Indians were treated in the 1800's was painfully obvious in Avatar. However, the movie was still entertaining, and had a fairly standard plot of 'oppressed vs oppressor'.
When it's entertaining, I can overlook the underlying SJW'ness. Choke the bile a bit and wash it down with popcorn and soda. Or if I'm at home, pizza and beer. Or tequila.
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Tuesday 27th November 2018 20:40 GMT Patched Out
Re: Reboot Avatar? Yuck!
"You mean blue Pocahontas?"
Yes! I actually said that out loud in the theater as I was watching it: "This is just a remake of Pocahontas!"
And using the element name unoptanium? Really?!? That name had been a joke among us geeks and engineers forever.
After all the hype, I was greatly disappointed in Avatar and never went back to see Avatar 2.
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Monday 26th November 2018 17:55 GMT ThomH
Suggestions for the putative BttF remake:
Give Marty more of a back story. Lots of intoning about how he was born for greatness, destined to be a saviour.
Up the stakes a little. He should be trying to save the entire universe from complete destruction across all time, not just his own family.
Also, the payoff needs to be larger. Don't just have his family be rich while Biff's are suddenly subservient. Make him president or something.
The Doc is too old to be hanging out with children. Replace him with a wise-cracking tweenager. It'll open up a whole new demographic.
Obviously he's not going back to the 1950s now, he's actually going back to the 1980s. So his dad can't be a nerd because everybody thinks nerds are cool now. Make him more like Bender from Breakfast Club but, you know, not 30. Actually, get rid of him altogether. In this movie Marty has to become his own dad.
With no dad to play off, maybe give him a robotic dog as a sidekick?
88mph is too slow, and we can't really be doing that light-hearted stuff with terrorists. In this version he has to base jump and reach terminal velocity. He first goes back in time because he's an extreme dude whose bungee cord fails. Probably somewhere in China, to hit that demographic. Actually, make the robotic dog Chinese. We know some guys who can do Chinese accents right?
Also it's way too long until he actually travels back in time — something like the entirety of act one is set in the present day. Let's just open with him already back in time, and leave whether he gets back to the present for a sequel.
Also, this Marty guy doesn't seem very interesting. Maybe make the robotic dog the star?
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Monday 26th November 2018 18:34 GMT David 132
Re: Did'nt
Spaceballs had the wonderful scene where they were watching the VHS tape of the movie as it was being made, and found themselves watching themselves watching themselves, etc...
"What the hell am I looking at? When does this happen in the movie?"
"Now. You're looking at now, sir. Everything that happens now, is happening now."
"What happened to then?"
"We passed then."
"When?"
"Just now. We're at now now."
"Go back to then."
"When?"
"Now."
"I can't."
"Why?"
"We missed it."
The icon is for Spaceballs The Flamethrower ("the kids love this one")
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Monday 26th November 2018 18:01 GMT Voland's right hand
There is plenty of original material
There is plenty of original material for Sci Fi.
You can spend the next 100 years doing series with weekly episodes based just on Neil Asher's Polity universe or David Brin's Uplift universe.
There is plenty of "film level" original material which will make into a blockbuster movie like Adrian Tchaikovski Ironclads.
You CAN make a blockbuster out of a good book (as Ender's game has proven). And you should.
Enough f*** reboots, prequels and sequels. Screw em all.
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Monday 26th November 2018 18:19 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: There is plenty of original material
> "There is plenty of original material for Sci Fi."
Sure is, but two things get in the way. One is that "Sci Fi" has been flooding the market for some time now, and most of that flood is just the usual plot gumbo, with lasers. That's what the public thinks Sic Fi is.
The other thing is that real Science Fiction is unsettling and confusing to a lot of movie goers. It may be fine for discerning readers, but the usual film crowd doesn't want to think too much. It's scary, and not in a good way.
Spandex heroes are safe, and pretty much guarantee at least some decent return on investment. Sigh fi...
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Monday 26th November 2018 19:06 GMT Dave 126
Re: There is plenty of original material
To make room for a more involved plot a TV series is often a better match than a movie - Westworld, Handmaid's Tale, Altered Carbon. For short, sharp plots an anthology series works - Black Mirror, Electric Dreams.
Movies fill that gap between a 1 hour runtime and an 8 hour runtime.
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Monday 26th November 2018 22:52 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: There is plenty of original material
"To make room for a more involved plot a TV series is often a better match than a movie - Westworld, Handmaid's Tale, Altered Carbon."
Dark Matter
Counterpart
Defiance
Humans
Person of Interest
Traveler
12 Monkeys
Continuum
And on the fantasy side -
Lucifer
Penny Dreadful
Warehouse 13
The Magicians (if you can get by the annoying first season)
iZombie (exception to rule that all zombie tv shows are garbage)
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Monday 26th November 2018 22:39 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: There is plenty of original material
"There is plenty of original material for Sci Fi.
You can spend the next 100 years doing series with weekly episodes based just on Neil Asher's Polity universe or David Brin's Uplift universe."
Or classics as well as modern -
Hal Clement, Mission of Gravity
Arthur C Clarke, Childhood's End
Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers (really based on the book, this time)
Keith Laumer, any of the Retief stories
Phillip K Dick, The Unteleported Man
Joe Haldeman, The Forever War
Greg Bear, The Forge of God
Patrick Tilley, Fade Out
James H Schmitz, The Demon Breed
Clifford Simak, The Big Front Yard
Frank Herbert, The Dragon in the Sea (British: Under Pressure)
Larry Niven, Jerry Pournelle, Footfall
.... and so on ...
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Monday 26th November 2018 18:03 GMT Gothmog
Why not go the whole hog....
....and remake some of those oh-so dated films that could really benefit from extensive CGI and green-screening. And more appropriate actors/actresses too.
The Shawshank Redemption (Adam Sandler and Jamie Foxx)
The Princess Bride (Channing Tatum, Mark Wahlberg and Sandra Bullock)
The Godfather (Will Ferrell, Ben Stiller and Meryl Streep)
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Monday 26th November 2018 19:19 GMT IGnatius T Foobar !
Post-America Hollywood
The reason Hollywood can't produce good films anymore is because they've been completely overwhelmed with politically correct post-American values. Today's films are made to be "woke" instead of actually *good*. Hollywood is done. It should be leveled and turned back into orange groves.
Downvote me all you want; it'll only make the truth truthier.
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Monday 26th November 2018 20:27 GMT bombastic bob
Re: 'Today's films are made to be "woke"'
not all films, obviously. just too many of them, In My Bombastic Opinion.
When I see a movie I want to be entertained, *NOT* guilted, manipulated, nor nauseated [unless it's really good 'bloody guts' special effects or something like it in a horror genre].
This is the first time I've heard the term 'woke'. 'Woke' from WHAT exactly? [no don't answer, it's rhetorical]
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Monday 26th November 2018 20:40 GMT ThomH
Re: Post-America Hollywood
Today's films are made for the same reason as films have always been made: to obtain money from audiences. There's really no ulterior motive.
Nowadays that means: a lot of action, because it's language agnostic, and a fairly simple plot, because that's closer to being language agnostic. And if you're doing action then you're in a CGI horse race, so expect an entirely desensitised audience.
The reason they didn't make anything like Citizen Kane last year is not that they're worried about offending sledge owners. The reason that they didn't make The Godfather is not that they're worried about a Twitter shame campaign by horses. It's that neither film would be likely to turn a profit.
The idea that political correctness motivates anything doesn't really have any evidence behind it; films are less likely to be e.g. racist now, but they're also more likely to include mobile phones. Are you worried about Hollywood's mobile phone agenda?
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Tuesday 27th November 2018 03:03 GMT Yet Another Anonymous coward
Re: Post-America Hollywood
Today's films rely on foreign sales to fund the production (rather than DVD/TV sales)
That means a subtle exploration of the artist's soul that will appeal to 100Million teenage boys in Asia + S. America.
Or something that will ensure attendance at your theme park for the next 10 years
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Monday 26th November 2018 19:20 GMT Anonymous Coward
How about?
Thinking about reboots seriously, unlike HooHahWood and the boobocracy, one comes to mind - Be Bill - Kill Bill from the perspective of Bill rather than the Bride.
The problem with most reboots is that they are structured around cool scenes with a 'plot' whose sole function is to link the scenes and a 'script' whose function is to set up the scenes before and admire them afterwards.
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Monday 26th November 2018 19:47 GMT Stevie
Bah!
Given that I was forced to attend a screening of Fantastic Cheek: The Crimes of JK Rowling* at the weekend I'd say that all people wanting to complain about Hollywood also include the crap ideas being fed to it by their own countrymen.
* - A movie with no story and characters recycled from the never-ending HP saga.
Fact is that Hollywood will only make what they think will make money. Come up with a non-comic book, non-remake idea that people will actually go and watch for cashmoney, then you can take the high road and be king of the hill.
Eye-Witness Evidence is that new ideas on worthwhile subjects (eg First Man) are playing to almost empty theaters.
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Monday 26th November 2018 20:38 GMT bombastic bob
Re: Bah!
"new ideas on worthwhile subjects (eg First Man) are playing to almost empty theaters."
Apparently, they forgot the 'magic stuff' that was in 'The Right Stuff' and 'Apollo 13'. And 'The Martian'. Yeah, that too!
I suspect I know what it is, though I haven't actually SEEN that movie to confirm it. Maybe I'll get the DVD later, when it comes out. I usually like space movies. Hopefully I'll like 'First Man' too.
(pssst - it's RUGGED INDIVIDUALISM and/or PATRIOTISM - the controversy over saluting the flag and then removing that scene from the theatrical version - this may be driving the low turnout. As observed by someone who was *ALIVE* *IN* *1969* and watched EVERY launch and landing that was televised)
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Monday 26th November 2018 21:05 GMT ThomH
Re: Bah! @bombastic bob
The flag is in the film. The sequence is shown in first-person and Armstrong is shown to plant the flag. There's no long shot or big slow-motion dramatic planting, just as there isn't a long shot or slow-motion lift-off or landing, or anything else.
There's no cutting-room floor footage featuring more of the flag; it's a standard-issue culture war manipulation storm in a teacup.
Per a joint statement from Armstrong's family and the biographer (emphasis added):
Although Neil didn’t see himself that way, he was an American hero. He was also an engineer and a pilot, a father and a friend, a man who suffered privately through great tragedies with incredible grace. This is why, though there are numerous shots of the American flag on the moon, the filmmakers chose to focus on Neil looking back at the earth, his walk to Little West Crater, his unique, personal experience of completing this journey, a journey that has seen so many incredible highs and devastating lows.
... and as if it weren't clear enough to you yet what the real motivation for the chicken-in-a-basket controversy were, they add:
In short, we do not feel this movie is anti-American in the slightest. Quite the opposite. But don’t take our word for it. We’d encourage everyone to go see this remarkable film and see for themselves.
Which I might paraphase as "they're not the real Americans, we're the real Americans, you should give us some of your money to prove it".
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Wednesday 28th November 2018 15:18 GMT Stevie
Re: Bah!
" haven't actually SEEN that movie to confirm it. Maybe I'll get the DVD later, when it comes out"
And here we see why Hollywood won't make the sorts of film you want to watch, Bob.
Comic book movies and nostalgia-riddled remakes are almost always heavy CGI exravagonzos which work better on a big screen and even better on an IMAX in three D than they do on your flatscreen at home.
Change your own viewing habits, fund the movies you want to see made.
And take your meds.
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Monday 26th November 2018 20:04 GMT Anonymous Coward
The lack of willingness to try out new material does my nut in. There are thousands upon thousands of novels worthy of a big screen makeover, but no, let's rehash something we know yet again. Harry Turtledoves world war series,for example, I have said since it began that it was practically a screenplay already, one ripe for a blockbuster
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Monday 26th November 2018 22:19 GMT Anonymous Coward
I hate reboots..
In the non-SF category they didn't do "The girl with the Dragon tattoo" any favours either.
There is IMHO nobody capable of improving on the fantastic performance of Noomi Rapace as Lisbeth Salander. I have the Stieg Larsson books ("original" as far as they're direct English translations) and I have the movies stored somewhere electronically because some things are simply worth preserving.
The remake, nah. It's probably not fair to pre-judge the "next episode", based on the new book written by David Lagercrantz, but let's just say that I have no reason to expect something quite as visceral as the originals with Noomi Rapace. It's just so good that it's hard to improve upon.
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Tuesday 27th November 2018 17:30 GMT Teiwaz
Re: I hate reboots..
Wasn't The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo not so much a reboot, but an English language version?
Only due to the fact that English speaking audiences have (in the the majority) no appreciation for foreign language films.
Although I'm not sure if it's the language and merely dislike dubbed and baulk at being expected to read subtitles or it's the sometimes slight cultural differences that make them uncomfortable.
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Tuesday 27th November 2018 07:39 GMT Korev
Also in the UK
'Old favourites such as Mrs Brown's Boys, Call the Midwife and Strictly Come Dancing return to our screens.' [over Christmas]...
I'm going to be "stocking up" -->
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Tuesday 27th November 2018 10:28 GMT Milton
It's the Age of Stupid, stupid
It's just more evidence that air pollution or radiation or social media or {enter your favourite hypothesised cause here} is causing a steady diminution of IQ worldwide.
BttF is one of the few 80s film productions that my kids (born around the millennium) really enjoyed, and watched more than once. (Along with The Princess Bride, oddly enough.) It stands as the ideal film-school example of perfect casting, pacing and script: not a single wasted word, every line has a purpose, and even in BttF2 it pulls off the phenomenal trick of keeping you abreast of what is, when you think about, a dizzyingly complicated plot and timeline. That anyone would consider a remake is proof, should you need it, that Joe Public is as dumb as a stump.
Considering Brexit and Trump and the general state of the world, from the citizens in the street to the rantings of a man-child in the White House, British ministers demonstrating towering ignorance on a daily basis, or the adolescent, ill-considered bletherings of Musk ... I dunno, maybe it's due to alien rays broadcast from orbit to stupefy the entire planet's population in preparation for a bloodless invasion.
But yeah: we are now deeply, darkly into the Age of Stupid.
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Tuesday 27th November 2018 12:57 GMT Wade Burchette
The reboot I want ...
... is Star Wars episodes 1-3, and 7-8. And I want a clean slate. Take the original scripts and ideas of all 5 and throw them in a box and then burn the box and just for good measure hurl the ashes into the sun. However, if this is not feasible, at least nuke and burn episodes 1 and 8. Episode 8 was so bad that I decided to never see Solo nor episode 9.
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Tuesday 27th November 2018 17:35 GMT Teiwaz
Re: The reboot I want ...
... is Star Wars episodes 1-3, and 7-8.
Careful, Disney own it now. You might get what you wish for and it'll be filled with talking inanimate objects
- do you really want to see Luke Skywalker bantering with his lightsabre???
- Or hear Princess Leia singing a lonely duet with a piece of furniture while incarcerated in a cell on the Death Star?
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Tuesday 27th November 2018 18:22 GMT Voland's right hand
Re: The reboot I want ...
I do not. IMHO, star Wars finished with Rogue 1.
I am aware that this does not chime with Joe Average Star Wars fan. I do not care as it was much more of a proper movie than any other Star Wars episode. Only Empire Strikes Back in places comes close.
I am not going to even consider buying Solo, Episode 8 and whatever follows. No point now. Everything which had to be said was said: "Hope, rebellions are built on hope".
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Biting the hand that feeds IT
