back to article TalkTalk's £1.5bn 3-million home fibre broadband hopes on ice for now

TalkTalk's 3 million-home fibre splurge now has a name – FibreNation – but can no longer say it has £1.5bn at its disposal for the venture. The new company, which has yet to disclose funding, and unfortunately shares its name with a Malaysian telco's marketing initiative, is TalkTalk's vehicle for investing in full-fibre ( …

  1. goldcd


    Surely a missed opportunity for a fibrenation/hibernation pun?

    1. Ken Moorhouse Silver badge

      Re: Surely a missed opportunity for a fibrenation/hibernation pun?

      More like stagnation.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Dear TalkTalk

    Never in the anticipated lifetime of this universe.

    Just fuck off


  3. Paul

    Don't patronize your readership

    Dear The Register,

    You don't have to explain, and get it wrong, by conflating FTTP with broadband, in a lame attempt to tell us that fttp is an internet connection.

    1. Ken Moorhouse Silver badge

      Re: FTTP

      Surely that's TalkTalk's implementation of FTP? File TransferTransfer Protocol. Just don't ask where the other transfer goes.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    An opportunity to divulge your passwords even faster than before?

  5. Steve Davies 3 Silver badge

    How much is being spent?

    to move their HQ to the 'centre of the media universe' from London?

    It seems that Salford Keys is where you have to be based these days.

    Will this move make them suck less as a provider?

    Answers on a pinhead in 40pt Garamond Bold please.

    1. Anonymous Coward

      Re: How much is being spent?

      >It seems that Salford Keys

      Ner ner ner ner, Inspector Lexicon here of the Scotland Yardie Speeling and Grammer Squid.

      It's Quays, not keys. It was once a port you know, not a front door.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Harrogate and Knaresborough

    These two already have Vermin Media cable - VM area 22. Would seem a daft idea to invest in any flavour of FTTP as a commercial proposition when there's already fast broadband from an outfit that can offer better bundles and content than TT.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Still don't get it

    I still don't see how any operator other than Openreach or Virgin can make the business case work.

    Consumer broadband is a low margin business and not something you can easily recoup billions from. Openreach and Virgin already have the customer base to make it work, and both can make huge cost savings from jettisoning twisted pair and coaxial copper.

    There will be taxpayer subsidies on offer but not so much for urban areas. So much for the gold rush.

    Perhaps this is why Cityfibre suggested they'll sue if Openreach is allowed to ditch copper - they know they're on shaky ground, allowing forced migrations (which seems perfectly reasonable if FTTH is there) makes it much harder for them to win custom, and most ISPs will prefer the known quantity (i.e. Openreach)

    Seems like we're repeating history again. Forced competition didn't work for cable TV and it's not worked for mobile. It won't work for FTTH.

  8. Zmodem

    talktalk benefit from being able to give you a landline while still owing BT money after being cut off for 10 years because you did'nt bother paying the bill, which is half of the country

    all the tears and all the hate of bad connections is all fixed by new network windows settings

  9. Z Ippy

    Broadband in the country is crap.

    I am about 100 meters from a FTTC cabinet and can't get any speed higher than 1mb as the cabinet is full with no potential for expansion. Two doors up have a connection to a different cabinet with masses of availability but Openreach can't or wont switch us to the new cabinet.

    BT's website confirms FTTC is available until you try and order it, when it then offers good old broadband.

    At least TT and Sky are honest and confirm only BB is available.

    I run the home broadband on a 4G unlimited SIM and MiFi device. 129gb used so far this month (21 days in) but max speed in this area is 4gb when no one else is on their phones and the MiFi device only allows 5 devices to be connected at once.

    1. Zmodem

      Re: Broadband in the country is crap.

      get talktalk good broadband, new network settings, i get a contant 10Mb/s which seen throttled by the free router

      these setting fix everything for the current version of windows 10 until you get a big update and have to either set them again or find new settings with the MTU on PPoE, which is just a checkbox on the main tab

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