Still using Skype? Good news! After HOURS of meetings, Microsoft reckons it knows when you're Not Active Microsoft has tweaked the presence model of its chat platform, Skype, in an effort to calm users still shrieking about lost features in the version 8 "upgrade". Peter Skillman, director of design for Outlook and Skype at Microsoft, shared the good news via Twitter that after "HOURS" of meetings, the team had decided to deal …
The presence model of Skype for business is more like rolling a dice. often i receive an email telling me I missed a conversation when i've been online the whole time, then when I log onto the outlook web app on my home laptop a week later, the conversation appears there instead. if you happen to have S4B open on both laptop and phone, you will only get notifications to none-or-one of those devices, and it's totally random which one.
etc. etc. etc. </rant>
This was a new feature in SfB 2015. If you have Exchange integration too (pre-req sadly) then get your admin to run:
Set-CsClientPolicy -EnableServerConversationHistory $true
On your particular client policy. Seems to be solid across desktop and iOS, less so fluid on Android sadly.
Christ yes.
My current favourite is my client showing (what turns out to be) an old presence status for the other party, acting accordingly when I IM, the back-end throwing a wobbler (presumably because my client is the only gatekeeper to what I'm allowed to attempt to send the other party), then the other party's presence status updates to what it actually is, which is usually offline.
Not to mention the times I send someone something, the system errors and says it was not sent, then said someone replies.
s4b is fundamentally broken.
Oh yes, nothing like sending a message, getting an incomprehensible error in your chat history, copying the original message you sent from chat history, pasting it to notepad, stripping the superfluous crap copied around it because copy and paste in SfB doesn't work either, copying from notepad, and pasting it back into SfB only to find out that they immediately reply because they had read it the first time round.
Loads of broken features left unfixed for years... either they don't dogfood it or don't care because it's Office and manglement who buy the licences will accept any old crap because it's MS.
You mean something like this? Or more along the lines of Skype's close/quit application stance?
I wish they'd fix the Linux version. It was fine until they forced everyone off the older stuff and made us all use the new one, which I guess proves that progress is a vector. Now I have 'network problems' that only seem to affect Skype and nothing else on my system.
I think they've used the same code as in Skype 4 Business, which I have the misfortune to use at work and also seems to suffer such issues.
Hear hear. I realise and admit I've to be "overly tolerant" and kept using Skype because my "oh-scary-computer-with-buttons-I-should-push-to-do-something-because-trusted-US-company-Microsoft-told-me-so" US colleagues can't/ won't consider alternatives. Apart from the fact that it's a neutered version, not allowing users to "get their job done" in a way that did work decades ago. When this productivity tool then improved by disabling the possibility to converse with SfB users (but hey, my 90+ nan is on WhatsApp anyway) and biz rated cams stopped working, well...
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/skype/forum/skype_linux-skype_callms-skype_audioms/logitech-c920-no-longer-detected-in-skypeforlinux/3af20be0-0460-4bd4-b77c-58208b3be599
But hey, we love Linux because we have a bash shell!
I must say that the Lync opportunity to join a meeting by phone is a brilliant additional feature of outstanding modern technology.
What do you say? 2018..? Oh...
Exactly. It was a useful way to tell people you were online, but in that moment they should not call you, maybe later. I often use it when I'm chatting/calling about some important (at least for me), and I don't want a friend chime in to show me the latest cat video. Maybe it should have been called "Busy". Quiet has a different meaning, and I prefer someone advertising "not now, later", than someone silently ignoring me.
This lack of understanding, and the fear of offending who know who, is becoming ridicule and counterproductive.
"This lack of understanding, and the fear of offending who know who, is becoming ridicule and counterproductive."
Maybe the away/busy/etc messages should be user defined then MS and their weird American fetish for politeness can abrogated to the user? After all, isn't that supposed to be one of the goos things about computers? Users can personalise their "experience" but these days MS seems to be defining everything and removing all the customisation options.
(I thought it was supposed to be we Brits who were up our own arses with a fetish for politeness)
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"The final notable change is “Hide my Presence”, which marks a user as “Not Active” and, in what Microsoft calls an effort to “foster an environment of trust and openness”, stops users seeing anyone else’s presence."
I found this really strange. They toss this out like it's obvious how this limitation "fosters trust and openness", but it's not. If they're going to tie the hands of users like that, the least they can do is actually make an argument for why.
Appreciate if's SfB but to echo others, I see the same. Messages that say not delivered that are then replied to; attachments / screenshots not being set etc.
But for me, the biggest one (I've mentioned it before on here) is not being able to add more than one account.
FFS MS...I've been able to do it with Outlook for years, so why not SfB?
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Any half-decent communications tool (like , uh, email for instance. Or letter post. Or the telephone) allows you sufficiently fine-grained control of status that you can easily be 'online' to some people while being 'unavailable' to others. Until that's possible, these social networking tools remain toys.
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