
as the update consumed RAM at a prodigious rate for some before falling over
Yes, that update has been out for years.
Windows Insiders eager to get their hands on next year's Microsoft OS were reminded last night that living on the bleeding edge can have its downsides: the update consumes RAM at a prodigious rate for some before falling over. It all began so well. Build 18237 was emitted with the usual degree of fanfare. Now given a …
...the Internet Explorer 4 launch? It wasn't really an update to IE, it was a beta test for Win98 in disguise. A least in the here and now Microsoft is being a little bit more honest about what code isn't ready for mass consumption. Now that I think about it, I don't know a a single personal that I would consider "well qualified" in the IT world that participates in the Windows Insider program. Maybe that is a good thing, maybe it's not.
There are no fanatics. Either idiots or Redmond C-team on the pay.
xNIX platform proved much much better in everything. I bet M$ will slide in Linux based system after W10 like MAC OS is based on BSD. W10 and other server versions cannot be better because they reach the summit entropy point. After that is simple chaos and system degradation. That is what we see in failing patches and updates. After 25 years of attempts to make such process stable.
After 25 years of dominating IT OS market Redmond crap is going to die as OS. 25 years wasted and thousands of strokes and heart attacks.
I remember W95 presentation and advertising clip. Completely stupid and idiotic. With Bill of Redmond as the star. Behaving correspondingly. That was the label for all Windows OS versions I used since that.
I do. I'm in their "insider" program, receiving early releases from their ring.
But it's only to test our own stuff, see what they've broke next and fix our products before their general release. It's all in a VM (as is nearly all our Windows machines), and mostly automated.
I have zero interest in making Windows better. You're fighting the largest company in the world with that.
In fact, I discovered a bug and reported it (twice) over a year ago. I probably "reported" it more times, via telemetry. It's still there now, I just work around it. I've spotted a few more, but I'm not wasting my time with them.
Had it been something preventing cortana starting, they would have flew in a team of developers.
Honestly, exactly, what do these people get out of testing windows for MS for free?
Entertainment value? Finding new-found appreciation for your primary machine that's running Linux?
Actually, I have an old scrap laptop running the tech preview, mainly so I know what shit is coming down the tubes before friends and family encounter it.
Internet Exploder 4 with it's introduction of Active Desktop to NT4 was the shiitake!
For an Admin it 'was' cool to provide an interactive internal directory of stuff on the Desktop.
For a User it was an awesome way to fill the disk and compromise the PC. Some were walked out based on content they had viewed that had been inadvertently set to be included in the active desktop experience.
when I wrote for computer magazines I always had one or more beta test computers. But obviously, no one in their right mind would pollute a fully functioning PC with a beta or even the first integer release and at least 2 dot releases of any OS changes, especially from Microsoft.
Traveling down memory lane. I remember the first few versions of MS DOS and PC DOS that were simply a licensed hack of CP/M and called QDOS for Quick and Dirty Operating System. Microsoft either licensed or bought it from a Seattle developer for $50,000 and became billionaires off of it.
Windows release versions are still terribly bug ridden. I read that Microsft has two QA testers for every programmer. Security researchers are making plenty of money reporting vulnerabilities (aka bugs) in that horrible operating system.
Microsoft does not do "testing" any more. It's why they have minions insiders.
And they probably don't have a sense of humor, either.
Hey Micro-shaft: it's ready AIM fire, not ready FIRE aim. Or, in your case, patch, TEST, upload to servers, not what YOU did: patch, upload to servers, test.
Well, that's right - you don't do "test" any more! So you REALLY did patch, upload [no test].
icon, because, facepalm for the OBVIOUS 'lameness' of this moment
It is an early test version -- only an idiot would install it and not expect problems.
Sheesh, 19H1, skip ahead version.
I know, MS should have "test version" superimposed on the Start Menu and Desktop of every Insider version, they don't. But still, after all this time who would not expect an early test version to have serious problems?
Hmmm ...
But still, after all this time who would not expect an early test version a General Availability release to have serious problems?
There, fixed it for you.
You seem to forget that it is MS we're talking about.
"The next time these chuckleheads boast about their quarterly profits, remember part of that largess comes at the expense of having anything resembling a responsible QA process."
cannot be emphasized enough
(insiders and end users - those are the new 'QA department', with forced updates to perpetuate it)
It's so blurred its a complete waste of settings, images, company logos spent on it.
It looks to me to be more blurred than the half life model (will have to go check when I get home) but even compress you only know the pic is dunes because we know the original.
As far as I am concerned, have images, or no images, big blurs are a waste of time, and frankly can be procedurally generated without all the tedious mucking about with large hi res image files that look that the were scaled from an icon to full HD resolution.
What's with the hate of blur?
I'm one big ADORER of blur. Much like "frosted glass" in my opinion. And that lockscreen screenshot looks good, actually. (Finally, a new feature to actually like in Windows 10!)
I've even brought it over to Linux - magic of compton ;-)
Is it to be a blurred showing of a real image or jus a blurry image. If the latter it can be changed. If it blurs real images specially, who knows. Microsoft's habit of removing functionality for no good reason is pretty remorseless in this regard.
Insider edition or not, Windows 10 of any release is not stable enough at all!
I recently had a failure after a Windows 10 update, it failed to install an update, then failed to roll back, then just looped through this cycle repeatedly. Tried several things in an attempt to fix it, and actually eventually managed to get it to boot, but it would blue/green screen after a few minutes. I thought the RAM might be faulty but it seems ok in another PC.
In the end I started with a new SSD on different hardware. All that's installed on this PC is Firefox and Office 2016. But recently it's started crashing instead of waking up when the mouse is moved. It doesn't do it every time, but often enough to be really annoying.
And just yesterday I needed to install Office on a domain PC, and it failed with a really cryptic and long message that meant nothing. Of course, this message only came up right at the very end of the installation wasting more time. Installing Office with admin rights (on a domain PC) no longer works on the current build of Windows 10, you have to log off and log in with the LOCAL admin account to install Office. It's like Microsoft actually hate their customers and are deliberately pushing them towards other solutions.
It would seem you have some trouble with an enterprise-grade IT installation. Our Microsoft Opportunity Department will shortly dispatch two representatives to explain the advantages of our brand new Business Support Initiative and the low, low price at which you can get this incredible offer (only one newborn to sacrifice per month!).
When your handlers arrive, be sure to be happy to see them.
Or else.
Oh, come on now... at least point out something we can snark at, not just make fun of their name and use profanity.
Like maybe that they treat end-users like Minions instead of Customers, by FORCING us into 2D Flatso, spyware, adware, forced updates, strong-armed 'Cloudy Login', 'the Store', yotta yotta. And being their QA department.
Seeing how Windows has gotten over the last couple of years, I am so glad I still have my old-ish computer and my Windows 7 Pro (KN) ISOs and CD keys. Not getting any new patches is fine by me, the code is pretty stable at this point and any remaining bugs are easy to avoid or at least recoverable. Security patches will keep coming for another 2 years and even then, my prevention mechanisms seem to work just anyway: Network firewall / proxy system running privoxy and ClamAV, A different AV product on the desktop, regular backups (with how little space Win7 takes up a pair of 2 TB external drives have lasted me quite some time), frequent scanning with the sysinternals tools (weekly on the live system, booting into a MDOP/DaRT DVD and scanning the offline system either monthly or after something unusual is afoot).
But, really, I have yet to see a compelling reason to even move to anything newer and every reason to stay the hell away from anything after Windows 7, especially when it seems that every time Microsoft releases a new feature, they just end up undoing it in the next version, but making it crappier than it was before (EG, the Start Menu). Especially since these new features seem to do nothing that would make life easier for me, and instead just expand my system's attack surface and punch holes everywhere.
Well folks, I've been running insider builds since 2014 on three different computers as time has progressed and I've yet to brick one of them. Sure, there are some clunker builds with various issues but all in all, it's been a pretty smooth process and feedback is well received and things get fixed.
Just since 1803 I've probably done 20 installs of upgrades on my laptop and not ONE has been a deal breaker.
There are hundreds of thousands of insiders. Sometimes I think ALL of the people who can't run windows properly inhabit the readership of The Register. Thanks for your consistent hatred of something most of you probably lie about having used. I'm betting most of you still have XP on whatever POS old computer you use for windows.
another wierd release of whatever Microsoft thinks "Windows 10/UWP/???" is. I am still waiting for the desktop OS upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 9; the one with improved performance, total compatibility with Win 7 drivers (both 32bit and 64 bit!) no change to the appearance and a start menu with desktop for PC's and laptops; no catering to funny phones or fondleslabs or cutdown ports to Raspberry Pi etc...