GNOMEs beat Microsoft: Git Virtual File System to get a new name Microsoft is going to rename the Git Virtual File System to eliminate its clash with GNOMErs. The purpose of the Git Virtual File System was laudable: Redmond's developers were sick of taking the afternoon off after typing “git clone” (even “git checkout” could take hours), so they gave GitHub users a workaround. At the time …
Having just wasted a few early morning hours with Microsoft at InfoSec Europe where it was the only presentation that didnt focus on the problem, but telling you that Microsoft Cloud was the solution.
(they spent so long selling the product they ran out of time to even mention the problem or the topic of the presentation )
How about leaving the conflict in acronyms in place and we'll chose as customers what we want to call it ?
does GVFS (or, ahem, MVFS) even WORK under non-Micro-shaft-OS's ???
THIS thread suggests very little has been done:
https://github.com/Microsoft/GVFS/issues/4
maybe fusefs or similar might be a possible solution, but I'm not aware of anything significant being done here, and couldn't find easily with a quicky online search. (gvfs-fuse-daemon is apparently for gnome's VFS of the same name, not for the Github one).
I fear that this will become like EXCHANGE with it's own "Microsoft windows API" for windows, and potentially broken things for IMAP and POP and basically "everyone else". I remember actually seeing something like this happen where many API-related things were just 'not available' if you used Linux or FreeBSD and had a regular IMAP e-mail client like Thunderbird - people would try to send me files, they'd show up as a link I couldn't access, things like that. "But if you use Outlook for your e-mail". No. Just no.
Nice way to ALIENATE over half of the people on GitHub! We won't do our dev work on Win-10-nic no matter *HOW* or *HOW* *MUCH* you beg (read: coerce)!!!
https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/devops/2018/03/15/gvfs-for-mac/
In other news, it's open source so why don't you write it yourself? Isn't that what the anti "micro-shaft" pro OSS movement believe?
If you're already on Git, then chances are you don't need this solution. It's designed to make working with humongous git repos bearable
Filesystem Under Development
OK, now that gets my vote, because I suspect they'd go for that simply because they think it would frustrate searches for what FUD presently stands for and its (long time) association with MS.
So we'll make sure it remains visible..
DDMSFS
The Drop Dead MicroSoft File System
I'm now gone from GitHub. They probably have all my code but for my peace of mind, I've voted with my feet. Several of my developer friends did this as soon as the rumours surfaced. We will not have anything to do with MS.
One has even modded the copyright notice on his code to add 'Not to be used on any Operating System owned or controlled by Microsoft Corp or any of its subsidiaries'.
I won't go that far but there is a real feeling of hurt that GitHub has betrayed FOSS people big time
One has even modded the copyright notice on his code to add 'Not to be used on any Operating System owned or controlled by Microsoft Corp or any of its subsidiaries'.
I see that as a joke, but that's not really enforceable, because we and our GitHub code are property of M$ now!
(No ... just kidding: If the code was under GPL, then there's a clause that prevents the author from controlling the manner in which the code is used)
I won't go that far but there is a real feeling of hurt that GitHub has betrayed FOSS people big time
$$$$ talks, abstract ideas and perfect notions walk.
One has even modded the copyright notice on his code to add 'Not to be used on any Operating System owned or controlled by Microsoft Corp or any of its subsidiaries'.
What a sad and frankly pathetic individual he must be.
Maybe, but he/she would not exactly be the first one either - I've seen this a couple of times over the years.
Hello:
I'm now gone from GitHub. They probably have all my code but for my peace of mind, I've voted with my feet. Several of my developer friends did this as soon as the rumours surfaced. We will not have anything to do with MS.
+1
That's the way to do it.
... there is a real feeling of hurt that GitHub has betrayed FOSS people big time.
Ahh ....
The all embracing power of a few billions.
Kudos to you and those who follow your example, sir. (and a round of beers ...)
O.
"One has even modded the copyright notice on his code to add 'Not to be used on any Operating System owned or controlled by Microsoft Corp or any of its subsidiaries'."
What was the project? I have a sudden urge to run it on Windows, under Bash for Windows if I must.
I suppose I've always assumed that if you post the source code, then any license is effectively meaningless.
What are they going to do, set the lawyers on you? That's not exactly deterred piracy now has it?
Guess your friend is never going to use Linux? Or countless other pieces of OSS that MSFT has contributed to?
It's all fine and good to fight the good fight, but not when the fight ended centuries ago.
Let me give you a hint - Linux and OSS won.
"If Microsoft ever does applications for Linux it means I've won." - Linus Torvalds, 1998 - http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9810/01/whylinux.idg/
Not moving on is just childish.
'I won't go that far but there is a real feeling of hurt that GitHub has betrayed FOSS people big time'
So if some megacorp came and offered you billions for some code you'd written, You would stick it to the man and...?
No one has betrayed anyone, unless it stood in the terms and conditions, "we promise never to sell our hard work to Microsoft"
You know this means I have to go back to therapy, right? (oh dear God, why! why!)
Just came here to post pretty much that.
Some things aren't worth joking about... or reminding people of.....
I actually worked with SCCS where someone had edited the .rcs file (was it??) so we actually had different record of history that didn't match reality.....
Now WHO'S LOCKED THE FILE???
<goes for a lie down>
"NO! M$ is clearly in the spirit of the Communist-Juche Idea (er, FOSS, whatever!) and decided to give it to the people to vote!"
Past experience of any type of vote in this context is the final name (or short list) has already been decided and then they'll go with their choice and "well, the people chose the name" even if it didn't win a popular vote.
How about keep the name but don't release the software externally from Microsoft? Then it won't conflict.
The whole idea is stupid and completely backtracks on the whole Git workflow. Typical Microsoft junk for fools and aplologists.
Or... since it will be dead in a few years (like GitHub hopefully), call it whatever the fsck(8) you want.
Are all the people leaving github going to stop using git too?
As the work on this filesystem came about because of the major speed improvements made by MS when they adopted git as their system of choice for the windows codebase and the issues they encountered. (They're probably quite unique with their codebase size and history length).
As someone who remembers when MS were basically unable to use anything not developed in house (and the evilness that went with it) I find the new more modern MS much more refreshing, you wouldn't get things like this or the Linux subsystem under Balmer or Gates.
They're still a large software company, and they're still money driven but they really don't seem to be the MS of old. (Which in some ways is really weird, they still have the desktop monopoly they've always had, but people don't care any more; still makes them pots of cash though, PCs in companies aren't going away any time soon).
It's okay though, the anger and hatred transfers nicely to Oracle these days. ;)
This blog is worth a read.
If Git had been developed by GitHub and not Linux Torvalds then yes probably.
Sane people would never tie business critical software down to Microsoft. This isn't the 90's any more ;)
But since Microsoft has zero control over Git, it stands a good chance of working for the user rather than against them unlike other unethical software.
Oh god, I used the word unethical... I hope I am not becoming too much like Stallman... Damn, perhaps he was on to something...
"Are all the people leaving github going to stop using git too?"
Very unlikely. Why would they? That Microsoft made improvements to it doesn't poison it or force you to do any business with a Microsoft company.
"they really don't seem to be the MS of old"
Honestly, I wish I could see that. To my eyes, they don't seem any different, except that they talk more nicely now.
"This blog is worth a read."
I read it. What was worthwhile about it? I'm not being snarky, I'm genuinely interested in the answer.
Spending more than enough time keeping the Gnome gvfs off my KDE systems ( same with Baloo, Strigi and all the other resource consumers that hold you tight and never let you go ) I shall be pleased at less potential confusion.
Installing the fugly modernist Brave browser even pulls in gvfs for no obvious reason...
Wouldn't it be lovely if Slurp were to embrace systemd, extend it and then ....
Ooh, look a m$ cloud with a silver lining.
One can dream. Some things just deserve to be together. Like turds and puke. And guess who's got plenty of experience with the polishing duster.
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