Forfeit All Of It
The others should also have to forfeit whatever they stole! But it should go back to the people they fleeced, not into government coffers, no matter how difficult that may be.
A bloke armed with a fistful of cellphone numbers has been sent down for 30 months for his role in a scam that fleeced folks out of $50m in bogus monthly charges. Christopher Goff was sentenced by a US federal district court in Manhattan after being found guilty on one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud. He will also …
I get that this guy stole the numbers and everything that happened afterward makes sense, but why couldn't the company running the scam just find a lot of numbers anyway. Is it really that hard to look up lists of numbers, or even use a dialer to find some? Is a list really needed. Also, why don't we just get rid of premium-rate texts. I don't think we need them.
My carrier (AT&T) allowed me to "block third party billing" on my account.
Problem solved. Even if I am "opted in" to premium rate texts, the carrier will refuse to act as a billing agent for the company sending them.
I have no idea if this feature is available for all carriers (or even if it is still available from AT&T), but it seems a reasonable solution to the problem.
I think it was required by law (at one time) in the US, that this option be available at no cost, but it was not advertised and I had to spend time with a customer service rep to get it added to my account.
T-Mobile, at least, seems to offer it:
https://www.t-mobile.com/company/privacy-resources/blocking/blocking-third-party-charges.html
...and so does AT&T:
https://www.att.com/esupport/article.html#!/wireless/KM1009396
good to see that the bad guy goes to jail still, and they have removed the funds too, but as posted above, it would be better if ALL involved went to jail, and all funds returned to those stiffed. but until hell freezes over, I suppose we should be glad that sometimes someone pays ............
You could happily live in a rural setting in the Third World on that sort of cash...
As an outsider? I suspect many Westerners would struggle with the skills to fit in. Especially those coming with the attitude that a sum of Western money was going to support their lifestyle.
"Third world doesnt denote poorer living conditions. It was the stance taken during the cold war."
Perhaps it was. Now, the terms have been redefined:
First world: Countries with high levels of economic activity and generally high living conditions.
Second world: Term is no longer used.
Third world: Countries with generally low levels of economic conditions. Sometimes also countries with low levels of political freedoms, although less often used this way. People never seem to put China in this group, for instance. Maybe they get to be in the second world?
Fourth world: The same as third world, but used when someone wants to make a rhetorical point that these countries are even worse than "third world" ones.
Definitions change.
One can see use cases for that: you subscribe to an information service you think has value. Anything from stock market or art market events to traffic news might have value to someone.
And once you have the principle, people can add ever more useless things. Think of the utterly useless presents you've given or received that you'd never dream of buying for yourself, but that just serve life's dumb rituals like xmas.