back to article One of IBM's latest financial figures was off by four cents today – so down go its shares

Revenues for IBM have risen for its second successive financial quarter – after more than five years of declining sales – but only on a constant currency basis. Profit, however, dropped and Wall Street hammered Big Blue's stock price in after-hours trading. The venerable tech titan reported $19.1bn in global sales in the first …

  1. Mayday

    "Worker transformation"

    Is this the new "Resource Action"?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: "Worker transformation"

      Transforming onshore to offshore.

  2. ratfox

    These days, choosing IBM is a good way to get fired.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "Cloud revenue" increased again?

    I guess they are now claiming everything they sell is cloud based, even their Mainframes, and services performed in India.

  4. Pascal Monett Silver badge

    Ah, Wall Street analysts

    They didn't get what they expected, so IBM gets punished.

    It's never the analysts that get told to sharpen their skills, no. It's the company's fault that it didn't perform to expectations.

    Alanysts should be graded on the exactitude of their forecasts. That would balance the situation somewhat.

    1. theblackhand

      Re: Ah, Wall Street analysts

      It's typically the opposite.

      Typically companies that hit or exceed their targets will experience a share price drop following a dividend announcement as the market has priced the expected dividend into the share price. i.e. yesterday the share price was the "share price"+"expected dividend", today it is just the "share price".

      It's usually a short term thing as people move their money elsewhere to where they think they can make more money.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward


    I have it on good authority, that as customers sign new, or extend existing, software licenses/support contracts, they've put "cloud" into the wording, so any IBM software running anywhere is considered "cloud" revenue. On the other hand IBM's actual cloud offering is basically unfit for purpose.

    1. GruntyMcPugh

      Re: Cloud?

      I used to work for IBM eBHS, (e-Business Hosting) we hosted the servers that customers web sites ran on. And while we sold the customer bespoke, discrete tin, it wouldn't surprise me if this activity was now considered 'cloud', after all 'cloud' is just a computer somebody else looks after.

      1. returnofthemus

        Re: Cloud?

        "I used to work for IBM eBHS, (e-Business Hosting) we hosted the servers that customers web sites ran on".

        It's funny for a term that was used to refer to platforms for distributed computing as early as 1993 is still causing so much confusion in 2018.

        I don't think anyone should be surprised by the fact that IBM's eBusiness initiative has evolved over the years, unless of course, you think that 'Cloud' doesn't constitute the hosting of web applications?

        1. GruntyMcPugh

          Re: Cloud?

          I'm not confused, now 'Cloud' means you don't own the hardware that the web applications run on. With eBHS, the 'Hosting' part was the crux of it, we hosted the hardware, it was not shared, or scalable, or on demand, or clustered, or resilient often. It was a fixed platform, owned by the customer, no additional resources would be added unless the customer bought more. eBHS was not an abstract cloud

    2. returnofthemus

      Re: Cloud?

      "I have it on good authority..."


      Don't you just love the smell of BS, I can smell it from here!

  6. trevorde Silver badge

    Here we go again

    More 'workforce rebalancing', 'resource actions' and 'worker transformations'

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Here we go again

      Why is that a “significant expense” given that they pay only statutory minimum?

      1. Aladdin Sane

        Re: Here we go again

        Because it's a lot of people.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Literally what sort of muppet looks at AWS, Azure and GCP and thinks nah, I’ll go for an IBM cloud instead? Do these people even really exist?!

    1. returnofthemus

      Literally what sort of muppet looks at AWS, Azure and GCP.....

      Depends what you are looking for from your Cloud Service Provider , I think it's fair to say Cloud has moved beyond IaaS, a repository for storing Word documents/Excel spreadsheets or even a playground for video game developers

      However, the short answer to your question is, a muppet looking to avoid vendor lock-in ;-)

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    RA/Worker transformation

    Word on the street is that the Cloud/Analytics team is under RA for 25% reduction in that area, including tech resource. Also another 8 from the OneChannel team.

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    >We were disappointed in our storage performance

    Ha. You're not the only ones.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Anagrams of Resource Action

    Arouse Necrotic

    A Necrotic Rouse

    A Erection Scour

    The list goes on.

    1. Aladdin Sane

      Re: Anagrams of Resource Action

      Your last one didn't work.

  11. Flakk

    All of IBM's business units saw sales growth but it was cloud that was the standout, seeing revenues rise by 20 per cent year-on-year.

    So they added a sixth customer?

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