Well... you get what you pay for...
And that's the entire problem.
More and more people relying on all of these so-called "free" services.
But that doesn't stop people from complaining obviously...
Twitter has silently, and without warning, deleted reams of lists users have spent months curating. These lists are used by journalists, activists, and loads of other people, to organize and manage twits they follow and aggregate their tweets, links, photos, and videos. They are, in a way, personalized RSS feeds of information …
generally you can't export your data if you don't own it - many "free" services, not mentioning a particular image hosting site... apparently own your IP as soon as you upload it and give them free use for more or less any purpose. This does not preclude paid-for services double gouging you by doing the same.
as far as I can see the public will choose convenience over security or service, or T&C's almost every time.
Tough love, but if you've left a decade of work in an 11 year old free cloud service and never backed it up anywhere else, you have other lessons to focus on. I sincerely hope these people get their lists back, but seriously, if it's important to you, it's important enough to back it up yourself.
The people we're dealing with here are not just those whose worldview centers around Twitter, they also have faith that iOS is the center of the IT world:
"There is currently a bug affecting lists on Twitter for iOS, but people should still be able to see their lists on twitter.com"
What could possibly
> It's funny, isn't it, how a human twitter aggregator can call themself a journalist without any shame or irony.
Right, I don't use Twitter, and can't really be bothered with it, but is it beyond comprehension that journalists would use it as a tool to gather information?
If a journalist read a book on a topic, would you complain that all they ever do is regurgitate published works?
from Twitter, FB and the rest.
You, repeat You are their product. You and your life in its entirety. There laid out for them to grab, churn and sell to the highest bidder.
You have no control. you are the subjects of their Social Engineering experiments. They will manipulate you in ways that you cannot imagine even in your wildest dreams.
Proud to have been free of social media for... well forever.
Yes, indeed, have information critically important to you (thousands of hours worth of work would sound a bit critical to me) stored out "in the cloud" where you have NO control of any of that data. Nor, apparently, a local copy of that data.
Reminds me of that old saw about all the eggs in one basket.
I'm sorry for those who lost data, but really, what can you expect to happen to your data when you have NO control over it and access to it can be denied or the data deleted at any time by some third party you have no control over? If your data is not backed up in at least two places, and at least one of them is under your physical control (and anything not under physical control is under enforceable, legal contract), it's not backed up. Expect the worst, because it's not a matter of if, but when it happens.
Lot of snobbery on here. Lists are actually incredibly useful, especially when combined with Hootsuite or Tweetdeck. Great for curating lists of worthwhile people to follow.
Having said that, yet again this shows - along with the poor handling of name selling - that there's a total lack of business savvy in that place.
Its not snobbery. Its just we aren't interested. I logged in once, couldn't work it out - just seemed to be people tweeting links to crap stuff. Logged out again. Never went back.
Indeed. I am so uninterested I won't even comment here.
In fact I won't even tell you that I gave up watching television years ago.
Backing up (allegedly) critical data is snobbery in your book? Hmmmm. I hope I'm not a customer of whichever egalitarian organisation you're building systems for. If you have no backups then you're playing Russian Roulette and sooner or later you're going to win.
People who don't know and/or don't care how creating lists on Twitter actually works laughing at people who do, while, somewhat ironically, saying they don't care, except they care enough to read an article on a platform they apparently don't use, and then even have time to comment...
How odd, but increasingly 'El Reg commentator' (usually anonymous).
Well you did, enough, to read the article, then the comments, then post one.
The article said "For the past several days..." and I added a note that it has been happening for longer than that. No big deal to me, and I didn't expect you to care, but still, I'm sure you're a funny and popular guy.
"Twitter has silently, and without warning, deleted reams of lists users have spent months curating."
Curating means taking care of things. Simply building a list of stuff perceived to be important without backing it up doesn't really amount to taking care.
..... not considered property, unlike money removing them from your use is not like theft.
All that work and the value you created through hours of your time disappears at the vendors whim and you have no come back at all.
I too have avoided social media, simply because they have no interest in it's value to you only what they can earn off your time and identification.
So it was really important?
Really really important?
'Decades' of work, so really very quite important?
So you'll have backed it up then? I mean if something is that important I'd have multiple backups in different locations.
Even a paper list. that's still a backup.
So.... about your backup?
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