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Fresh from encouraging users to buy bundles of its stuff, Atlassian is changing the way it charges for cloudy versions of its software and says the result will be that “the majority of customers will receive an increase in their bill” of about US$2/month/user for JIRA and Confluence products. Sean Regan, the company's head of …

  1. Lusty

    Interesting how expensive this looks when compared to Microsoft. Atlassian must be pretty confident people won't try out the competition.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Because even with the price increases, its still massively cheaper and better than any other competing products.

      The host it yourself stuff is even better value.

      1. Lusty

        That's a weird reply given I already said it's more expensive than the MS equivalent. I'd also argue that far from being better it's less well integrated and capable than VSTS.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          VSTS is about 10x the cost, and it's functionality, even in VS2017 isn't a patch on the atlassian products. Have you tried to use VSTS issue tracking? It's truly horrendous,

          Their original build system is antiquated, and their Bamboo/TeamCity copy ( their "NG" build system, is a poor copy of Bamboo/Teamity offerings, and very limited outside of building Microsoft stuff). TFS itself is a confusing mess for users,looks abysmal and has a bland confusing web UI.

          We have both TFS and JIRA/Bitbucket/Bamboo/Confluence, and it's not even a close call. Atlassian are substantially cheaper and substantially better, and our hosted setup has better uptme too.

          1. fatalXception

            It's all pretty subjective I think. I personally find TFS's online stuff far more pleasing to the eye, far easier to work with and far *less* confusing than Jira's. Granted, that's only the most recent iteration (TFS 2017 / VSTS) but nevertheless, I'd drop Jira in a heartbeat if I could. But that's the thing, use whatever works best for you :)

          2. Lusty

            "VSTS is about 10x the cost"

            Not a fan of looking at price lists then?

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Hmmm...

    "Instead, the big end of town will wear this one. Atlassian thinks those customers won't have trouble swallowing the change:"

    Are these the same type of companies that employ several thousand people and think nothing of firing people just to save a few quid?

  3. Dan 55 Silver badge

    Jira...

    I still find Bugzilla infinitely more sensible, but it's obviously not reassuringly expensive.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Jira...

      Depends on what you need to do. As a free toy, bugzilla is fine. However if you need full tacking of issue, code changes, what issues and code changes are in what branches and what builds, then bugzilla is woefully inadequate. Bugzilla workflows are pretty basic, and not even in the same league as JIRA.

      1. Dan 55 Silver badge

        Re: Jira...

        I guess not. I hope you get your workflow transitions right first time before you've started your first project as when you need to re-do an active workflow because you forgot one then only Jira can make life this painful for you. But as it's Jira we're told its workflows are the best and to carry on drinking the kool aid.

        If you want to track branches and builds in Bugzilla you make flags for them.

        But then again Bugzilla is an issue tracker, not some PM's wet dream which runs with the absurd idea that a whole project can be specified as a bunch of tickets that need clearing ASAP.

    2. Charlie Clark Silver badge

      Re: Jira...

      Horses for courses but I've always hated Bugzilla

  4. JasonLaw

    Confluence

    If it was a million pounds per user, it would still be eleven bajillion times better value for money than Sharepoint....

    1. Robert Moore
      Coat

      Re: Confluence

      I used to love confluence. Then one day they took out the ability to edit the markup language. Ever since, it has sucked.

      Don't be saying you can still enter wikimarkup into the standard editor, because that is NOT the same thing.

    2. FozzyBear
      Devil

      Re: Confluence

      Good ol' Sharepoint.

      I'd have to learn 20 different languages to express how much I hate that bug ridden, sink hole of information, piece of crap

  5. Arikos

    JIRA < $ Than VSTS

    JIRA/Confluence is definitely less expensive than Microsoft's current offerings, feature for feature. Not sure why this is even a debate. Source: We use both at my firm: One dev team of similar size / change scope, vs. another similarly sized team. We haven't forced the original MS team to change to JIRA because the view isn't worth the climb at our scale.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: JIRA < $ Than VSTS

      er, it's not though. look at the price lists. Jira literally costs more than VSTS (which does many times more things).

      You seem to be confusing facts about costs with your personal opinion about usability.

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