Bonkers call to boycott Raspberry Pi Foundation over 'gay agenda' Few could argue with what the Raspberry Pi has achieved. As well as inspiring countless youngsters into computing, the tiny affordable gadget is beloved by amateur and professional techies alike. Yet a completely batshit crazy petition, even by change.org standards, begs to differ. One "NoRottenPi" is calling for a boycott of …
But seriously, try not posting when your brain is so lubricated with alcohol that it slips out of your head... and it wouldn't hurt to enable your browser's spell checker.
I'd suggest they were using a tablet, but maybe just seldom type "Tim" and often type "Time".
But tell me. Since when has "Time" been something an English browser's spell check would identify as incorrect? Maybe you weren't as sober as you thought? :-)
Does this mean that when a beautiful rainbow appears in the sky after a rainstorm that God himself is literally condoning Gayroller massacres?
What about the ZX Spectrum? Big rainbow plastered all across the front of it. No wonder we all turned gay in the 80s! Remember the 'Pink Windmill'?
That's why they had to make all computers beige in the 1990s. To stop the evil gay propoganda!
Now where did I put my tinfoil hat?
The whole "gays are pushing themselves on me" mentality sounds like latent homosexual wishful thinking.
Actually it's just code for "your very existence offends me", to which I'd reply; "ditto, but at least I'm not an insecure bigot, who's so weak-willed that he feels it necessary to shield himself from reality, just to stop himself becoming the object of his own bigotry".
On the other hand, the sort of cabbage-IQ people who are bigots probably couldn't understand that reply anyway, so I'd be wasting my breath.
Personally, my orientation is "trisexual": I keep trying to have sex.
I'm against the gay agenda on only one front - adding more and more fucking letters to the original LGB
This is the principle of self-selecting minorities (you can't be discriminated against if you're not in a minority) that was parodied in the "only gay in the village" sketches in Little Britain: all about attention seeking and nothing to do with human rights.
If we are struggling now with the attempt to apply every letter in the alphabet to mean some special group just imagine how hard it will be for that kid in Canada born without a gender because its parents want it to choose when it is old enough to understand. We dont understand them now! By then they will have moved on from the alphabet and be full on into the ascii/unicode character sets!
Intersex, of which there are about 30 conditions, some unrelated. Essentially many have been surgically altered, in some cases without even parental consent or parents being informed.
No-one should be bullied or discriminated against for what they are or believe. Nor for believing differently.
(2) Christians
I've been a victim of severe bullying, sometimes pushed to the brink of suicide (and beyond, but thankfully never found a way that worked). This was done by bigots who believed I should be killed because I was different.
What makes you think it's ok to bully someone based on a perceived difference to yourself? You're no better than those who tried to push a young boy to kill himself because they didn't like what he liked.
I'm against the gay agenda on only one front - adding more and more fucking letters to the original LGB
Your post is offensive to us in the LGBTHDCDYESCWSHG34563726BTNDRTH456QAZGHKOPKJB,GTJFRVHEXFEFUIKGJGCYRSKUGDJYESWX,HGIJNOKMPKHUTFTEXRQZYFVOJN
KHUGDKJGKYR,NGDB HFSKHGCJTES.JGVKYRD,HGCHTEAJHRFJGDKHFSKHVCJYFCKHFDKHFSKYFCLJBFAGLUGUTODKHGCKHFC,HBVKYRWGKHVCOKSUTUELJGDKYSMGJMY,JGCBDDLKHGCJVDJGXSJKAFSD,HB community, and we demand you retract it at once!
(I do often wonder who is really behind this adding of letters. Initially a somple concept that people could easily follow, now it is getting ridiculou. One way to destroy the acceptance of an idea is to make it appear sill)
"The whole "gays are pushing themselves on me" mentality sounds like latent homosexual wishful thinking."
Spot on. Reminds of the tweet i saw during the equal marriage legislation in the UK - "it's a common misconception, but equal marriage will not mean you are now forced to marry someone of the same sex".
No it isn't wishful thinking. Any more than being pestered by Jehovah's witnesses shows a latent desire for religious experience or being stung by bees shows a latent desire to copulate with them.
Dream on you insecure little man.
You are not enticing, exiting, new, progressive or hip.
You are a fucking boring nuisance.
"Very old symbol used for thousands of years in many cultures."
It is, but the pride rainbow generally only has six colours. The reason for this is quite fun - when hung from the lampposts of San Francisco the pole would block the middle colour, so they deleted one to leave an even number so none of the colours (each representing a value or meaning) would be obscured.
"... when hung from the lampposts of San Francisco the pole would block the middle colour, so they deleted one to leave an even number so none of the colours (each representing a value or meaning) would be obscured."
Wouldn't that imply that one "value or meaning" was ditched for the sake of appearances? (And if that really was the case, which one?) Why not add another colour representing another value or meaning? There are plenty of both.
Besides, the "problem" would be strictly one-sided, so to speak... and fixing it by removing one stripe would result in the the pole blocking 1/2 of two colours each.
Strong whiff of "meaningful explanation added to coincidence after the fact".
No, I guess someone just found another supplier of flags that were more attractively priced, but had six colours.
Newton "picked" seven colours (most people only clearly distinguish 6) because of Greek philosophy, music (seven notes, then next octave) and alchemy. He'd originally listed six! There are very many more colours than 7 in a rainbow if you have a good list of colour names, or a pantone chart. I think the limit is about 10,000 hues for humans viewing spectrum of sunlight on very narrow slit and prism.
Asimov thought Newton's choice odd
I believe the I stands for "intersex" where their physical bits swing both ways. But it's the Q for "Queer" that has me puzzled; isn't that covered by the LGBT options?
One version I saw included an A which I presume stood for "Asexual" who are people who don't have sex or sexual desire and are completely happy with that, so why do they need special representation?
I just think of it as LGBT-alphabet for simplicity.
Round where I live, it had recently rained and the rain had moved away, then the sun came out. All very nice, you might think, until I looked up into the Tory blue sky, and saw that the gays had been at it again, plastering their rainbow across the whole vista of nature. I am raising a petition to stop this constant hijacking of the skies by the LGBTQIADHKUY brigade. Who's with me?
I think you may well find that they don't allow themselves nice things. Because it might make Jehovah[sic] cross.
They need to forget the bad teachings of their youth and read their Bible. Get to know the God of the Bible, not this being of man's worst imaginations.
/me gets asbeatos overcoat
You'd only notice that it is a woman doing the hugging if you notice the earrings. I was amused to note that much fuss is being made of the LGBTQ elements while no one paid any attention to the adults being an inter-racial couple, so *some* progress has been made.
And, yes, the thread was--so far as I can tell--sent to /dev/null.
On the whole, the image (still up today...I expect it change relatively soon as it is no longer Gay Pride Month) is pretty subtle. I suspect a lot of people never noticed and would never notice if the petitioner hadn't made such a fuss. It's pretty much an own goal.
"I used to work with a bloke with a big shaggy beard who wore womens earings every day that I saw him. Earrings definitely aren't a good indicator to rely on."
I'm a bloke with a big shaggy beard that wears earrings, although literally just 'rings', like a pirate and I'm definitely not gay, so that's at least two of us.
What I would like to do is explore the possibilities of a bigger, shaggier, beard, but I'm having trouble getting planning permission for that from the missus.
"I used to work with a bloke with a big shaggy beard who wore womens earings every day that I saw him. Earrings definitely aren't a good indicator to rely on."
I bet if you asked him how long he'd been wearing them, he'd have said "Ever since my Missus found them on the back seat of our car"
>>>You'd only notice that it is a woman doing the hugging if you notice the earrings.<<<
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Considering the many earring-wearing males around, that buttons on her jacket are on the left would probably be a better indicator.
</fashion_pedant_mode>
Anyhu, I'd forgotten I wanted to get my hands on that deliciously cheap Zero W for some LG^H^HBLE-tomfoolery.
Now, where's that credit card at?
"From the time when Gay meant happy."
Still does mean that. If you are referring to a time when it exclusively meant that ... it's unlikely that was ever the case.
Maybe not triangular but they do supply a nice pink case as show in our dear El Reg in 2015
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/27/the_raspberry_pi_is_succeeding_in_ways_its_makers_ialmosti_imagined/
I wonder if there is an after market rainbow colour scheme case available. I'd buy one just to wind up the petitioner.
https://shop.pimoroni.com/collections/pibow/products/pibow-for-raspberry-pi-3
That's one of the ones I have
"They want to tell your children it is 'ok to be gay' even if you as a parent work diligently and carefully to put your child on a hetrosexual path."
So... you're saying you want to tell my children that it's NOT okay to be gay?
Way to win over the audience. You can discount my support for such stupid nonsense.
If they were INSTRUCTING your kids to be gay (they're not, the operative word here is 'support' - I 'support' all manner of groups and causes, none of which demand I live their certain lifestyle), then maybe you'd have a case. But they're not.
P.S. I suggest you look into what your school teaches your child. Because I guarantee they WOULD NOT tolerate any speaker, guest, staff or other child telling someone that it wasn't okay to be gay.
It's DISGUSTING! The Pi's board is literally covered with MALE headers sticking up everywhere. And what do you have to do to connect to it? You have to buy a LESBIAN F-F cable. And, and they even do THOSE in rainbow colours. Oh, but it's not a MALE port, is it, despite the header, it's a GENERAL PURPOSE IN/OUT. Gender flexible! This promotion of bisexuality is just as bad as the promotion of homosexuality.
How do I know if a path is heterosexual or homosexual?
I mean I can sort of tell if a path is straight or curved, but that is not helping me know how the path feels about other well-trodden routes. Also how would such a path pass on its inclination?
Oh dear, now I have to contemplate if I like my asphalt...
@kain preacher - yeah, that's what fuckwitted bigots usually presume, that being gay or trans is a matter of choice, AND that gay and trans folk want to recruit AND that children are so easily suggestible that they can be persuaded to be gay or trans. Which of course completely ignores the fact that if children were so easily persuadable there wouldnt; be any homosexual or trans folk as the amount of heterosexual/cisgender-normative material and role models out there waaaay exceeeds those of the homesexual-transgender ones. And I've yet to meet a trans person who didn't feel the condition they were born with to be a painful one that they wouldn't wish on anyone.
I recently had the amusing experience of having a Christian evangelical woman striking up a conversation with me on the bus, and somehow she got onto the subject of not being able to compliment other women in case folk think you're lesbian. She clearly hadn't 'read' me (I am a lesbian) . Somewhat startled, I told her I thought she was being paranoid, I compliment women on therir appearance without anyone reacting negatively, I said. Just because someone tells you 'that's a nice outfit you're wearing' doesn't mean they want to jump you, seems to me it's the ones fretting about being thought lesbian that have sex on their mind the most, I continued. 'Nice hat', I said as I got off the bus. Her face was a picture..
Logic doesn't tend to be the forte of bigots.
"Which of course completely ignores the fact that if children were so easily persuadable there wouldnt; be any homosexual or trans folk as the amount of heterosexual/cisgender-normative material and role models out there "
I'm going to take a non-SJW and 'non-extremist' position on this issue, and offer some science to back it up.
First, you're not a victim of your urges. You have a brain in your head. You make choices, and I assume they're good choices most of the time [like everyone else].
That being said, genetics and developmental issues can be shown to affect sexual preferences. I cite an experiment I've mentioned before in which the brains of homosexual male sheep were examined, and the examination showed that they looked a lot like 'female brains' in certain areas, particularly with respect to processing testosterone and aromatase. (physiological evidence of potential developmental causes for homosexuality in sheep).
At the same time, there's also an "addiction" gene that is thought to be responsible for certain kinds of addictive behavior. We all know that this genetics is often fought against by AA members, etc.. they make choices, too, and in their cases they choose to go AGAINST their genetic predispositions, and for good reason.
So, somewhere between "extreme on one side, you have a choice" and "extreme on the other side, I have _NO_ choice", is a reasonable amount of medical and behavioral science that says "it's not such an extreme thing", since developmental issues DO exist, and genetic ones PROBABLY exist, and somewhere in the middle is reality, where some make choices that others cannot make, and vice versa, because we have brains and are NOT the victims of genetic/developmental predisposition, regardless of circumstance.
So I suggest, in this case, that you may make choices based on circumstances beyond your control, ones that you perceive as "cannot be avoided", whereas others with different circumstances may not. This does not mean you can't choose something else. it may simply be too difficult, or just undesirable.
Whichever choice you make, though, it's not my business. It's your business. And that's ultimately where it should stay.
[and people should perhaps mind their own business more often when it comes to sexuality and preferences, and not intentionally get in others' faces with whatever extreme position they take]
since developmental issues DO exist, and genetic ones PROBABLY exist, and somewhere in the middle is reality, where some make choices that others cannot make, and vice versa, because we have brains and are NOT the victims of genetic/developmental predisposition, regardless of circumstance.
I believe that I am gay largely by choice, or rather a series of choices, but these were made when I was very young and there was no way for I or anyone else to see where they'd lead till it was too late.
I also believe genetics can play a very large role, but not always causitive. Same for upbringing. I've met some extremely effeminate men who are cleary and surprisingly straight, who by many accounts should be more bent than the Raurimu Spiral. Also have known several gay teens who became straight for the right woman. Or maybe they'd become gay for the right boy......
Pirate coz lots of frigging in the rigging..
@bombastic bob - I'm well aware of the research on such matters, m'dear (I've read quite a lot of biomedical and psychological texts and research on the subject), but given some of my comments tend to the overlong, I was doing my best to keep it reasonably short, rather than write a dissertation! Well done, and have an upvote from me for a quite reasonable posting on the subject.
However, it's still true that on the whole, for most folk sexuality is not a matter of choice. If you're homosexual, the availability of potential sexual partners is much more limited than for heterosexuals, and social pressure can make it extremely hard to even locate suitable partners, never mind actually get together with them. I know that many women of my age who now identify as lesbian have been in heterosexual marriages before because they were lonely and saw no hope of being able to enter into a lesbian relationship, when they were younger. Extreme lonliness can drive one to extremes of behaviour, including going against ones innate sexuality, particularly with huge social pressure to conform pushing one in that direction. That doesn;t really equate to choice in the sense of free choice though, now does it?
The plain fact of the matter is that I'm just not terribly interested in guys that way, and that is NOT a matter of personal choice. I'm not anti-guys though, heck, some of my best friends are male... 8-} ;-}
I'm watching while a neighbours lad wrestles with his own nature while being fed this nasty bigotry by his mother
Her path leads to her son's suicide, becoming a criminal, or rejecting everything she holds dear, including his family. Tell her to understand Romans 14:4 and "it is by grace you are saved, not by works". She also needs to learn what the Bible says about loving and showing love, showing mercy, and letting God deal with other people. Hers is the greater sin, and the Bible makes that abundantly clear. She is to love her son and treat him with love, compassion and mercy. The rest is up to God. Forget the church and what they say, "let go and let God"
Wait is just me or are the ysaying one has to be forced to be hetro ? Are they saying sexual orientation is a choice
Well they capitalise CHOICE elsewhere (being a tenet of the Gay Agenda meme I would have been surprised to not see this). I think what they are saying is that the Gay Lifestyle looks so damn tempting that any kid not fed a strict diet of "Hetrosexual" propaganda is bound to succumb. I would make an implication that they are just projecting but I suspect it is a brilliant troll.
"I suggest you look into what your school teaches your child. Because I guarantee they WOULD NOT tolerate any speaker, guest, staff or other child telling someone that it wasn't okay to be gay."
Unfortunately some people who have influence over children's minds as teachers or community leaders do promote homophobia in implicit or explicit ways - even in apparently enlightened Western countries.
A recent example in Scotland was Cardinal Keith O'Brien - before he was exposed as sexually abusing his junior clergy. The CoFE requires its clergy in same-sex relationships to be celibate - and that is the liberal end of the religious spectrum.
As someone has pointed out elsewhere - with an increase in nationalistic fervour comes intolerance for those who can be labelled as "different". See Russia and Turkey.
"They want to tell your children it is 'ok to be gay' even if you as a parent work diligently and carefully to put your child on a hetrosexual path."
So... you're saying you want to tell my children that it's NOT okay to be gay?
I don't think it was intended to be THAT extremist.
best path: we all mind our own business, and this whole hysteria fades away. No more SJW's or identity politics, or extremists trying to foist their viewpoint on everyone else.
THAT would help.
(in the mean time, we can lampoon the extremists on BOTH sides of the argument, rather than believing them or defending them)
Esteemed Author» The issue appears to be a small rainbow featured on the website.
Does anyone want to point out to this True Christian™ that, according to the Book of Genesis [1], God created a rainbow for Noah to signify that the Flood had ended. Is he suggesting that improper acts occurred on the Arc?
[1] And Science doesn't get anymore real than the Book of Genesis. It's a good read too.
To be fair, Noah also had his 3 sons Shem, Ham and Japhet. And their wives.
And a lot of sheep. Just sayin'.
Yes I was in Noah! The Musical when I was 8. Our poor, poor parents. Except for the night when Japhet buggered up his lines, started the wrong song, and managed to miss out a third of the script. Bonus early ending.
"Well, based on that story, all life except that which was on the ark got destroyed."
Except all the creatures that live in (or mostly on) water anyway... And the flood was meant to wipe out all the baddies. Which leads to the conclusion that ducks are evil. Watch them. Watch them closely.
"Therefore the entirety of humanity is derived from Noah and his wife... that's a whole lot of incest!"
Adam & Eve 2.0
Esteemed Author» The issue appears to be a small rainbow featured on the website.
You are not very observant.
Two rainbows, second one on the badge worn by one of the adults which may or may not be both female (the cartoonist needs to learn to draw first before taking on serious political topics).
So in total 3/4 characters in the cartoon.
IMHO, the cartoonist needs to learn to draw, my 8 year old daughter draws better. There is nothing worse than using a very proper political cause to get preferential treatment for very shitty workmanship.
Well, from this viewpoint I cannot see that drawing as anything other than two women and a couple of kids. So, pass on my small congratulations for depicting an adult female human in a cartoon illustration without resorting to just drawing a boy with boobs and long hair*
(* Yes, I know it was good enough for Michelangelo, but that was a long time ago...)
Genesis 9:13-14
13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
Can we have a petition to boycott the Bible as clearly Gahd was advocating perverted and un-natural man-on-man sexual practices when he plastered a rainbow all over the sky for Noah to see. Did the 10 commandments get edited to remove no. 11 - though shalt love they neighbour as theyself, provided thy neighbour be of the same sex as thou.
(And does 'loving thyself' tend to imply heavenly backing for self-abuse?)
Moses dropped two of the tablets on the way down and, well, we've been at war ever since.
An old joke: Moses comes down the mountain and announces to the Israelites "I've got good news and bad news. The good news is I got him down to ten. The bad news is adultery is still one of them."
I was looking for an actual rainbow 'bow'. The (virtual) sticker on the laptop is indeed a logo used for/by the non-hetro community, and while I could ask why it needed to be there - it isn't needed to make the already colourful image work, it's hardly pushing any agenda - really, the response to all this is another question: "who cares?"
The existance of a logo in an illustration on a web-page is hardly going to be an influencing factor on peoples minds.
If anything, recognition and acceptance that not all people are the same can only ever be a good thing, right?
As Baldrickk notes, it's pretty clearly a rainbow flag as used to signify support for the LGBT+ community, and so was put in the picture by someone who wanted to convey that support rather than it happening to just be a rainbow on the page by chance.
I think it's a nice touch. Others may (validly) not see the point but not have a problem with it, while some others (such as the petitioner) go full-on hate outrage about it (boo hoo). But I don't get those who are saying "it's just a rainbow" - someone has clearly put the flag in the picture to convery a supportive message, in the same way that many businesses or organisations will fly or display the rainbow flag to convey support. Let's not pretend that it's not what it is (and what it is is a good thing).
Anyway, let's hope the petitioner hasn't visited the Pimoroni website: https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/pibow-for-raspberry-pi-3
"even if you as a parent work diligently and carefully to put your child on a hetrosexual path"
Good luck with that. Didn't work for me or anyone I know.
If it wasn't for my dislike of kids i'd certainly choose to be straight. Am I happy? Yeah. But it would be simpler.
I'm not so sure about the latter. I'm sure I've seen Betty and Wilma indulging on a peck on the cheek at times. Maybe that was an indicator of other things going on behind closed doors (just as long as the saber-toothed kitty did not jump back in through the window).
And I thought it was the realisation that one was attracted to people of the same gender that was step one. Acceptance is not required to be homosexual or transgender, it just makes life a little more comfortable for those that are.
Religious indoctrination is step one on the path to bigotry.
"Acceptance is not required to be homosexual or transgender, it just makes life a little more comfortable for those that are."
how about 'tolerance' instead, and some civility to go with it? Religious people don't need to "accept" homosexuality as "normal". But they'd be better representatives of their god if they were to tolerate it, and treat people with a bit of respect.
(and the extremists and SJW's on *BOTH* sides need to just SHUT THE *FEEL* UP and stop stirring up emotions and creating chaos)
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I remember an interview once with some anti gay person who said it was a lifestyle 'choice'. The response was... So, When did you decide to be heterosexual? I nearly snorted my coffee at the look on the guys face as he spluttered and stuttered.
If a kid is going to be gay or any of the other terms used, the presence or lack of a rainbow isn't going to make the slightest bit of difference.
Oh and I hate the word tolerate. It indicates to me that something irritates you but you tolerate it. I don't tolerate LGBTXYZA.. whatever. I don't even think about it. Be yourself, have fun and be nice to others. Can't ask more than that.
I am just gobsmacked that this even made it onto The Reg...
"Oh and I hate the word tolerate. It indicates to me that something irritates you but you tolerate it."
For those in question, that's exactly what it is. You can't just ask someone to stop being irritated by something; it doesn't work that way. If you find a certain kind of music irritating, and someone suggested "stop being irritated by it" as a solution, it would be kind of senseless, right? You may be able to get used to it, maybe even develop a taste for it, but you can't just "decide" to stop being irritated.
You can, though, stop behaving as if you are irritated. They're asking for a change in behavior, which is something people can control. If enough people do that, the change in attitude will follow, in the same way that research has shown that smiling when you're down really does help improve the mood. Acting like something doesn't bother you over time results in the thing not bothering you as much... or at all, maybe.
Acting like something doesn't bother you over time results in the thing not bothering you as much... or at all, maybe.
I can only upvote once, so in leiu of a dozen more I'll thank you for a well written post. One that has basis in neurology, a science that is the opposite to that horrible fantasy world of psychology (invented so those fortune-tellers who advertise on late night TV can have someone to look down on and laugh at)
Where did they get this gay stuff from? Obviously the Pi foundation are actually pushing a neo-Nazi agenda since the rainbow is actually a hate symbol: https://pics.onsizzle.com/the-rainbow-flag-is-the-newest-hate-symbol-of-the-24412651.png
Look at Trump (Literally Hitler) displaying it. Are we really gonna let the Pi foundation get away with this brazen display of racist Nazi propaganda?
If not, let me copy the only comment posted so far. It's hilarious!
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ELECTROSHOCK ALL THE FAGS. DO EET. ELECTROSHOCK THEM ALL TO DEATH.
Michael Pence, Washington, DC
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I suspect perhaps an El Reg reader as the scurrilous personage who is sullying the good name of Mike Pence, Vice President of the Good 'Ol US of A.
But my goodness some poeple are angry about the dumbest things.
" [...] as the scurrilous personage who is sullying the good name of Mike Pence, Vice President of the Good 'Ol US of A."
I gather Mike Pence VP is actually a religious fundamentalist who possibly would promote anti-gay "cures". It rather tempers the desire to see Trump impeached or ousted with the 25th Amendment.
"even if you as a parent work diligently and carefully to put your child on a hetrosexual path."
I think this may be very illuminating. NoRottenPi is convinced that if you want hetro kids you have to 'work diligently and carefully'. This suggests to me some deep inner conflict, probably based on the person being gay but having some retarded view of sex imposed on them by narrow minded parents/guardians/teachers/priests.
I feel sorry for NoRottenPi, they are clearly very messed up.
"This suggests to me some deep inner conflict, probably based on the person being gay but having some retarded view of sex imposed on them by narrow minded parents/guardians/teachers/priests."
It appears that many homophobes are trying to hide their desires. Cardinal Keith O'Brien was noted for his vitriolic sermons about gays. He then had his comeuppance when he was "retired" by The Vatican after a scandal alleging sexual abuse of his junior clerics.
"It appears that many homophobes are trying to hide their desires"
thanks AC for ABusing another 'phobe' term. it reveals your SJW-ness.
you can't have civil discussion when you're throwing emotion-bombs like "phobe" terms. That's why the SJW's do that. It prevents people from THINKING, because they're too busy *FEELING*.
The Pibow has been around for five years, and is available from Adafruit. Somehow, hundreds of millions of children did not instantly become LGBT. Instead of attempting a boycott, both people with iridophobia could fund space exploration so they can find out what is really happening on Mars.
I just went to raspberrypi.org and can not figure out what the loon is talking about. Given one of the major targets of the project is school children the color scheme strikes me as appropriate for that target. Nothing on the site strikes me as taking a side on gay rights. Maybe the loon should be kept for observation for serious delusions.
....and it is that the guy is a 'stirrer' and not worth a light.
The Pi foundation has done a wonderful job of bringing an affordable educational tool to market, and all this numpty can do is moan.
Engineering is actually a gender-neutral arena, although I admit it is rather male dominated.
Whilst I respect his right to an opinion, I don't see why he would expect me to sign a petition endorsing it! After all, "Opinions are like ars****les, everyone has got one".
He should just stop meddling and let people form their own opinions!
Statiistically, 1 out of ever 60 people you ever knew is gay, about 1.8%
Think back to high school. Go to a reunion. Perhaps you'll see someone you knew who's obviously gay [I have]. Does that kind of thing matter to me? Not really. I just say 'hello, I remember you, you were in XXX class with me'. And later I might think "yeah, THAT explains a lot..."
Lessee, I worked for a gay guy once [didn't ask, he didn't tell, but it was obvious, and women loved him]. Had a gay guy living next door (in a duplex) for a while, and he was easy to get along with. He had a calendar with a nearly naked body builder on it in his kitchen. I've also known a few people online in IRC and on USENET, one of whom had a full sex change and used to post links to various trans-sex resources, particularly the medical ones [I find this sort of thing interesting as in "how DO they do a sex change operation anyway?"]. But if they say nothing online we'd just never know. Which is fine, really. Sometimes you don't WANT to know, but sometimes you might. It's especially funny if there's a gay woman in an IRC channel and you see a bunch of guys hitting on her. Heh.
So yeah, 1.8%, about 1 in 60 people that you know, are probably gay
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As a Catholic, I'm absolutely outraged that that utter bollocks of a human being was given a keyboard and internet access. I'm also the proud owner of 6 Raspberry Pi's, a bag of Skittles, a Zippy teddy from my yoof, and a Mrs.Doyle costume that I wore for my stag do in Prague as I'm getting married to a woman next month. So to that gorm, how gay am I?
You know what, I read the whole article and there were two things that really got me thinking. The first being what gay agenda the Raspberry Pi had on my desk, and how the f**k Change.org is used. I've signed petitions for various things in the past on that website, but then all I get day in day out is "Why don't you sign this petition to save dogs in Africa" or "Do dying llamas in Tibet mean nothing to you?". Bloody hell, I signed one petition to require cyclists to have insurance and a license and I get all of this blackmail? I digress.
If he was a proper Christian, he'd know the ultimate rule that the world's greatest socialist (that's Jesus, btw) taught was: don't be a dick. Jesus didn't say "God made Adam & Eve, not Adam & Steve", and he definately did not say "Thou shalt not use a Raspberry Pi because it'll make you gay". The ultimate take home message from the Bible is "Don't be a dick". But it pisses me off that the arseholes who attend church on Sunday's, dripping in jewellery and driving their brand new Mercedes Benz cars, turn up because they think by turning up they buy shares in the afterlife. They nod, kneel, chant Amen at various bits and sit their patiently while scripture is read out that basically says "Don't be a dick to your neighbour or the poor bloke on the street. You don't know what they've been through".
The very moment they go out of the church they'll walk past a homeless guy and ignore him. Brilliant. You've spent an hour in church being told to help your fellow man and you walk straight past him. And I bet pounds to doughnuts this utter fucktard of a human being is one of these arseholes.
Not so sure that the ultimate take-home message from the *bible* is "don't be a dick". The New Testament, maybe - but isn't the ultimate take-home message from the Old Testament something to do with not eating shellfish?
Or perhaps I'm getting confused - I've been having some very odd thoughts since I dropped those two tablets on my way down the mountain...
"No, the new testament is all about repenting your sins and believing in Jesus. Or else you go to hell regardless of anything else. Jesus or hell."
I'm in total agreement with what you say. The christian bible is SUPPOSED to be saying "everybody sins" and "redemption through Jesus". What a lot of christians do INSTEAD is nothing less than bashing one group of people over their particular 'sin'. By doing that, of course, they're being ARROGANT and HATEFUL (more sin, just different). But this is not new. Some post-civil-war churches in the American southeast, and some others as well, said 'blacks were marked as the sons of Cain' which is obviously nonsense, but they used this to act prejudicially, an obvious excuse for bigotry. 'gay bashing' for religious reasons is probably the same _kind_ of thing, motivated by bigotry and a kind of arrogance, one of the "7 deadly sins" I might add...
I've always believed that THE LIE is the worst of the sins, pales by comparison to engaging in homosexuality (or adultery, or any of the others that get regular bashing). So if there's a bottom level in hell, it's filled with LIARS. next to the bottom, ARROGANCE.
(and we all know that 'the lie' is so universally practiced, good luck finding ANYONE who hasn't done it, including me heh heh heh)
Christians being tolerant, but not compromising in their beliefs, would treat gay people as fellow 'sinful' human beings, no worse than anyone else, and would NOT point fingers nor say god hates them. They could still believe in the bible without being asshats. Well, in an ideal world, anyway.
So, is THAT what you meant? (I hope so)
Sort of what I meant yes.
"Christians being tolerant, but not compromising in their beliefs, would treat gay people as fellow 'sinful' human beings, no worse than anyone else, and would NOT point fingers nor say god hates them. They could still believe in the bible without being asshats. Well, in an ideal world, anyway."
Well yes. Ultimately the thing is to get along with each other, not to be a dick etc. If someone kills someone, it's usually with intent. You chose to do that. So you can rightfully expect that act to be condoned. But to be gay? Like another poster said in regards to some clown who said homosexuality was a lifestyle choice, I can't remember when I chose to be heterosexual. To be gay is to be something you're born as, you have no choice on the matter. You can no more help falling in love with your male best friend than you can the colour of your skin. That bit isn't considered, and if it was then actually Christians shouldn't even consider those who are gay to be sinful.
"That bit isn't considered, and if it was then actually Christians shouldn't even consider those who are gay to be sinful."
There are no quotes attributed to Jesus Christ about same-sex relationships - although he did strongly condemn heterosexual adultery.
To support anti-gay rhetoric Christians have to go to other sources.
1) The Old Testament Leviticus lays down a lot of proscriptions - including the one that is anti-gay. It is equally dogmatic that you should not: eat pork and shellfish; cut your hair or beard; wear mixed fibres. It also says you must: be circumcised; kill your children if they are disrespectful.
2) The New Testament letters by Saint Paul contain an anti-gay reference. He also says that women must be silent in church. The latter edict was responsible for the often fatal castration of thousands of young boys in the 18th century - originally to provide Catholic churches' choirs with a final small percentage of trained adult high voices.
I still think marketing missed a trick by not calling it "War God of Israel". Yahweh racks up a body count which makes Cthulhu look like an amateur.
It is a book of utter depravity, filled to the brim with sex and violence. However, most of it is *interesting* utter depravity. You may want to give the chapter titled "Leviticus" a skip, which is rather repetitive and redundant in a repetitive sort of way. OTOH, this is the one you should read for the anti-gay rants.
The sequel is the "Highlander II" of religious works; suddenly we are to believe that Yahweh is all loving-kindness. Fortunately it got retconned away in part three; Yahweh is suddenly called Allah, but the important thing is that he is Back At War.
"I still think marketing missed a trick by not calling it "War God of Israel".
Actually, that's exactly what Yahweh is. One of the original pantheon of Gods they believed in back in the day, including Yawahs brothers and their father. He's not called the jealous god for nothing.
"It's just Twitter for the annoyed."
I thought Twitter was Twitter for the annoyed!
Whenever I see something in my Facebook timeline saying "so-and-so has just signed a petition on change.org about something", I am reminded of Matthew 6:5
"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. Truly I tell you, they already have their reward."
It seems to be the electronic equivalent of public prayer - throwing some wish into the ether in the vague hope it might be fulfilled and saying "Look at me, I'm making a stand about something". No you're not - you just put your email address (I bet it was a throw-away one too) on a website.
Clearly it is not right to discriminate against or mock minority groups. But we get to pick and choose the groups, based on our own world view or the current trending zeitgeist? I mean, Christians, everybody mocks them and their fairy story book, so that's ok. Pile in.
For one thing, Christians aren't a minority where most of us live (though, due to a recent survey, you might have a point when it comes to Scotland). The bigger problem is that too many Christians make a lot of noise about how persecuted they are, which leads one to conclude that they are an embattled majority.
They do have quite the persecution complex. The American ones especially. It's a recurring theme in the Christian media I follow for entertainment. Anything can be persecution.
The biggest one right now is non-discrimination laws - some states have laws that prohibit businesses from discriminating based on sexual orientation of their customers or employees. Or, as the Christian press describes it, anti-Christian laws that 'criminalize those who take a biblical stance on human sexuality.'
"That's OK as long as they are connected via a switch, which should be called Janet for obvious academic reasons. She's super.
But if you connect Bob and John directly using a crossover cable, you will toast in firey torment for eternity."
Wait when did this turn into BDSM ? Switches, Flogging using cat 5e nine of tails, fire play. Man this sites is kinky real fast.
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How does the logic you imply by your putative question relate to categories of sexual orientation which society currently deplores? And do we not then return to the position that an acceptable sexual orientation is that which society mandates, rather than the position implied by your question.
The loony in question appears to be one of those people who beleive that sexual orientation is a "choice". That is, one can "choose" to be straight or gay. If that is the case, when did he "choose"? He must have made the choice, right?
(I am not defending that "logic", just commenting on it. Since he claims to have gay friends, perhaps he should ask them why--and when--they chose to be gay. The answers should give him a few clues...if he actually pays attention and that *thinks* about it.)
the 'choice' probably happens as a result of circumstances that may seem unavoidable. and so whether 'choice' is involved or not becomes debatable. I suggest that 'chocie' is always present in everything we do, though the choices are limited by circumstance. However I'm not going to judge someone for choosing to be homosexual (if choice is involved). In my case, I suggest that choice is ALWAYS involved, though choosing differently MAY be close to impossible, given the circumstances.
Sort of like if only a single choice is available, do you still make the choice? The sound of one hand clapping is in the background, along with a tree that falls in the forest and nobody is around to hear it...
That's why, whenever I design my own boards, I make most connectors affixed to said boards male. Definitely not because my boards usually connect to others via ribbon cables. No sir.
Although it does get a bit weird when you need boards that stack vertically... The solution I'm currently using is alternating male and female headers on interconnecting boards. (That is, of course, because I'm trying to be nice to hermaphrodites, and totally not because it adds more static friction to the connection.)
I had to closely look at the site to see what that whacko was complaining about - that little rainbow sticker on the back of the monitor in the drawing??
What the hell?
Reminds me of that Brass Eye episode where Gary Lineker showed a photo of a hillside and said the small, almost unrecognisable blue speck was a child and a paedophile would try and attack the picture. Watch the first 35 seconds of the episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcU7FaEEzNU
To be fair, there are 2 rainbows on that picture. And, again in fairness, the picture DOES show what appears to be a lesbian couple with 2 kids (the person wearing the badge certainly seems to be female, there is the slight hint of breasts as shown by shadowing).
I'm not sure what the problem is of course, but I thought it only fair to point out the raging homosexuality being paraded on their front page.
Raging.
What next, a free copy of the Grindr app with every Pi? Oh think of the poor children.
I saw two women hugging in the street yesterday, and in the spirit of inclusion and tolerance, asked whether, for £50, both would be willing to come and get frisky on my sofa whilst I filmed them and offered encouragement. Instead of gratitude, I received intense verbal abuse. I can't help thinking that this reflects the sorry state of May's Britain, and that things will only get worse. I despair, but maybe I should've offered them more cash.
While the petition does go way overboard into silly levels of conspiracy theory, I do agree with the sentiment to a degree.
As a bi man I am very critical of the whole "pride" thing for several reasons:
- Firstly, it's not required these days and in western countries because we HAVE equality. Go promote this stuff in the Arab world, Russia, China, India or Pakistan if you want to actually make a difference to people who are genuinely oppressed, thrown off buildings or worse for their sexuality.
- Secondly, the virtue signalling aspect annoys me both in terms of companies taking part in "pride week" and by (usually straight) SJWs attending pride marches, showing the flag etc. They are hoping to show how "nice" they are to make some cash or to show off to their friends and that makes me feel used.
Had the image been a photograph and the sticker just happened to be on the screen I wouldn't be so bothered. The fact that someone specifically decided that the "young white guy" depicted needed to have a gay pride logo on his screen shows they gave it thought and that's the problem right there - discrimination.
We are no different to you. Stop treating us as such. And stop speaking for us.
There are still places Were you can be fired or killed for be part of the LGBT. I personal know of of trans person that came to a box on their drive. It had fagot tranny on it. They called the police. The police did not like how it looked. Call out bomb squad. Yes the box exploded Never made the news. Never found out who did it . This was in Sacramento. IF you have ever been to Sacramento and the Lavender district. you see a large LGBT night live out there and I've also felt safer there then in SF and its more friendly, And know this was only about 5 years. SO yes there is still a reason for pride in the US.
...white, middle-aged, heterosexual male, I have never read such a load of alt-right tosh as this petition in my life. However, given the dearth of supporters, it does give me some hope that humanity is becoming more accepting of diversity as a positive step towards truly being civilised.
As of this writing, the petition has 10 supporters (the petition started "2 days ago", which is a little vague, I don't know if the software rounds up or down).
The petitioner, "NoRottenPi", as 23 supporters. So 13 people think NRP is okay, but like RaspberryPi better.
Not sure what to conclude from this. Even bigots are willing to quell their bigotry for the sake of cool tech?
So turns out I had to sign the petition to leave a comment, which was as follows:
'I'm NOT signing this, but I've had to just to leave a question - are you totally insane?
FYI Rainbows are not owned by LBGT People, Care Bears, Skittles or those people at the end of the yellow brick road.
If your aim is to promote LBGT rights then you're actually doing more harm than good with your insanity so please, do us all a favour, take your laptop out into the garden and smash it, never, ever, ever(no really E-V-E-R) use the internet again.
P.S - You're a douche.'
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To say that the use of a rainbow is anything other than a nice image is a bit mad. someone must have nothing better to do that get themselves noticed and unfortunately this is a nice easy way just mention LGBT and your guaranteed a piece in the news it appears.
The rapsberry pi is not gender or orientation specific it is for everyone, of all abilities and types. Next it will be that your car is racist or your house bricks have an opinion.... get a grip
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