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Intel has hatched a new SSD, a 64-layer one, available in a lovely coincidence at etailer Newegg for $179.99. This is, Intel claims, the world’s first commercially available SSD using 64-layer 3D NAND, and is only shipping with a 512GB capacity. It has a 6Gbit/s SATA interface and its 4K block read/write IOPS are up to 75,000 …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Not exactly competitive in terms of price.

    The very reliable Sandisk Plus MLC* 480GB were selling for as low as £75 each this time last year. That's your benchmark Intel, not £100 more than that, given the increase in chip density/lower production costs (in theory at least).

    This needs to be at lot nearer the £100 mark, than the launch price. Even the Taiwanese unbranded SSD drives (i.e. Integral SSDs) are rock solid.

    *Sandisk Plus moved to TLC, not long after.

    1. pixl97

      Re: Not exactly competitive in terms of price.

      The same Sandisk 480GB is $160 now. SSD's have gone up in price *a lot* in the last year. Demand is higher than ever and every manufacturer is running into shortages. It is not fun purchasing enterprise SSD currently, end price on the exact same server build over a year ago has gone up considerably.

  2. handleoclast
    Coat

    Spinning Rust

    There are many advantages to SSDs, but there are setups where SSDs cannot give the same performance as spinning rust.

    1. Dazed and Confused

      Re: Spinning Rust

      and despite all that spinning rust makers say and needing sealed environments its surprising how well they still work when you decide to take the top off on whiles it's running. They get noisier though.

      1. Sir Runcible Spoon

        Re: Spinning Rust

        I once had a job repairing hard drives in a class 10 clean room (MFM days). The risk is that any particles on the disk behave like a ski-ramp for the ceramic heads.

        When they take off and come back down, they create an impact crater which just means that the problem will only get worse from there. Enough 'pings' and you will suffer a head-crash (where the ceramic head disintigrates) and you are then ploughing your platter with a metal spike at 7500rpm :)

        Having said that I once did a rush job swap of platters on a 20Mb MFM drive on my desk and when we ran it through the tester it had zero errors - something we struggled to achieve in the clean room!

        1. Dwarf Silver badge

          Re: Spinning Rust

          In my yoof I remember seeing an 8 inch hard disk that had decided it preferred to be a lathe until the tool bit, er, I mean head assembly finally disintegrated.

          There was literally a large pile of bits in the bottom of the drive. First major hard drive failure I ever saw. Most of the rest have been really tame compared to that one.

          1. VicMortimer
            FAIL

            Re: Spinning Rust

            The most spectacular failures were always the big drives, I've seen pictures of drives that had broken loose from their floor mounts, my understanding is that those were like those out of balance washing machine destruction videos on Youtube.

            But the best one I've personally seen was a much smaller drive, a 2.5", the glass platters (does anybody still use those? They were supposed to be the next great thing for a while, I've not seen a drive with them in years) had apparently exploded at speed.

            When I got it drive rattled weirdly. Acted really strangely when power was applied, the spinup/spindown sounded very odd. After poking at it for a bit, decided that data recovery wasn't going to happen, opened it to see how bad the head crash was.

            There were no heads. There were no platters. The head carriers were mostly there. And there were lots of little chunks of broken glass and glass powder.

            The user claimed that the computer hadn't been dropped. I tend to disbelieve the user's account, but there wasn't any obvious sign of drop damage.

            (Of course there wasn't a backup. The user was initially upset that I hadn't tried harder, then I showed him the drive internals and the internals of a normal-looking drive. A quick explanation of how a hard drive worked, and he believed me that there was absolutely no point in further recovery attempts.)

  3. druck Silver badge
    WTF?

    Who cares?

    Exactly the same performance, but a different number of layers?

    See title.

    1. bldrco

      Re: Who cares?

      Same performance, lower price/GB. Lots of people with a clue will care

      1. druck Silver badge
        Happy

        Re: Who cares?

        People with a clue don't buy overpriced Intel SSDs.

      2. VicMortimer

        Re: Who cares?

        Except it's not a lower price right now. It probably will be eventually, but right now it's just not very interesting, particularly when Newegg has the similar-performing Samsung 850 Evo for $30 less.

  4. Gene Cash Silver badge

    Buggy as hell

    Linked review conclusion: "Until Intel patches this bug, we can't recommend this drive for purchase."

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    As long as the 2TB version

    does not cost an arm and two legs then I will be interested in it.

    Sadly it will need both arms and legs in all probability.

  6. John Smith 19 Gold badge
    Unhappy

    I presume this is "early adoptor" pricing.

    But I'm not really sure what part of the spec screams "I cannot live without this in my life"

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