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Ross Ulbricht has lost his bid to set aside his life sentence for selling illegal drugs through the now defunct underground website Silk Road. Ulbricht, who operated Silk Road from 2011 through 2013 under the pseudonym Dread Pirate Roberts, was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole in 2015 on charges of …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Sick man of America

    If they cared about yanks dying like flies from opiod overdose, they'd shutdown half the pharmaceutical companies tomorrow.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Sure, that activity is illegal

    But LIFE?

    Look at the damage that the great orange one is wreaking on the globe.

    And he gets off scott-free, for now.

    1. Sorry that handle is already taken. Silver badge
      WTF?

      Re: Sure, that activity is illegal

      How are these two things remotely related?

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      @AC

      If you haven't learned by now that life isn't fair and sometimes the guilty go unpunished, I guess you never will.

    3. DrXym Silver badge

      Re: Sure, that activity is illegal

      "And he gets off scott-free, for now."

      "For now" being the operative word. He and his cohorts are subject of an active investigation into Russian interference in the US election as well as racketeering in the state of New York.

      He'll end up being impeached, resigning for reasons of "ill-health", or section 25'd. Too slowly for most people's liking but he'll be gone. With him will go most of the shitshow that is his presidency. Whoever his successor is, e.g. Pence is probably going to follow a more traditional Republican agenda.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Sure, that activity is illegal

        Even if Trump got impeached or otherwise didn't finish out his term, he won't face any criminal charges. The president can't be tried in a court of law, only by the Senate after being impeached by the House.

        I suppose if he broke the law before he took office theoretically he could be prosecuted, but as with Hillary breaking the law it isn't something the powers that be are likely to pursue unless it is totally unrelated to becoming/being president - even then pretty much anyone who reaches that level will have done some things wrong. "Jailing your opponent / former office holder" is the sort of thing banana republics do, so I think that's a line no one wants to cross.

        1. GBE

          Re: Sure, that activity is illegal

          "Even if Trump got impeached or otherwise didn't finish out his term, he won't face any criminal charges. The president can't be tried in a court of law, only by the Senate after being impeached by the House."

          It is widely held that "The President" probably can't be charged and tried in criminal court while in office. However, an ex-president can be charged and tried for acts commited while in office. That's why Ford decided he had to pardon Nixon: to avoid having the whole mess moving into criminal courts and dragging out for years. It is also widely held that being tried in a criminal court after having been impeached and acquitted is not double jeapordy.

          1. Oh Homer
            Childcatcher

            Re: Sure, that activity is illegal

            Where the "activity" in question includes hiring hitmen to commit murder, and causing others to die from overdose.

            Well at least one good thing has come out of this horror, the true nature of the libertarian ideology has been clearly exposed for what it really is: the creed of psychopathic gangsters.

          2. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            @GBE

            Maybe so, that's untested law. But like I said, I don't think anyone will want to go there. If Trump is impeached and leaves office, Pence will pardon him, but even if he didn't I don't think there'd be an appetite even among democrats (aside from the voices on the fringe, like Maxine Waters) to push for him to face criminal charges. Sets a precedent that neither party will want to establish.

    4. phuzz Silver badge

      Re: Sure, that activity is illegal

      I was under the impression that the life sentence was for paying to have someone killed (ie attempted murder), but it looks like he was sentenced to life before he even went on trial for "commission to murder".

      1. SirWired 1

        The murder-for-hire was an aggrevating factor

        Courts are allowed to take judicial notice of evidence of unsavory things about the defendant when deciding which of an allowed range of sentences will be imposed. You need not be convicted of a crime for evidence regarding it to be used in your sentencing.

  3. Gordon Pryra

    While we laugh at the arguments he made

    It was worth him giving it a go, it is not like he has anything to loose :P

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: While we laugh at the arguments he made

      lose.

  4. Bob Hoskins

    The sentence was unreasonable

    Yeah - life's not fair and all that but this was a spiteful show of making an example of someone. How successful it's been is questionable. The guy got caught through poor tradecraft rather technical Tor issues and whatnot and people have learned from his mistakes. Life without parole? That the USA

  5. Matt Bryant Silver badge
    Thumb Up

    Good.

    Nuff said.

  6. Clive Galway
    Trollface

    I tried to get to level 43 weed smoker, but it involved too much grinding, so I gave up.

    Thanks, I'm here all week!

  7. Clive Galway

    Utterly mental drug equivalencies in that document

    §2D1.1

    Level 38 offences:

    90 KG or more of Heroin;

    450 KG or more of Cocaine;

    45 KG or more of Amphetamine

    You fucking what?? Speed is 10x more of an offence that Cocaine?

    Twice as much of an offence as HEROIN??

    Sounds like someone is spending too much time in the evidence room...

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