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Microsoft has kicked off a Skype Insiders program for people “interested in providing feedback to shape and enhance the Skype experience!” That's Skype Community Manager Allen-S' exclamation point, reproduced from his post explaining that the new group “will have early access to Skype software and services updates and …

  1. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

    "... providing feedback to shape and enhance the Skype experience!”

    I thought that's what that annoying popup window after every third call was for?

  2. Teiwaz

    Bit late.

    Plenty of alternatives to it around now, the linux client was ignored for too long, and the web version (on linux) only did text for too long, among other annoyances.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Skype?

    The only time I (sometimes) use it is through the Outlook.com website (text only), but I'm never installing that garbage on my PC again. I still don't get it: MSN Messenger worked just fine and was hardly as intrusive as my last Skype session (now several years ago). I even accepted the advertisement display because... Well, it was a free chat client.

    Now I mostly use my phone :)

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      "use it is through the Outlook.com website (text only)"

      Interesting.. Can you say more...

      This lets you type chat but no voice?

      Or there is voice, but you never used it...

    2. ProperDave

      Re: Skype?

      I used to stubbornly use the earlier client versions until they were blocked, mainly as with each iteration the application's become more and more bloated. I still remember how light an easy to use Skype 0.9 was, back before eBay or MS got their grubby mits on it.

  4. tempemeaty
    Alert

    What used to set it apart from the rest...

    "peer-to-peer" is what made it great. Take that away and you have just another software like any other. Nothing special.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: What used to set it apart from the rest...

      It is still the most used video comms software, despite it being easy to prove it's intercepted (I tend to entertain myself with proving this to lawyers - it's rather interesting to see them go white :) ).

      Until that changes, Skype matters. Sadly.

      WebRTC and anything based on it is now part of almost any browser, but few have the concentrated power and marketing muscle it takes to bring this into regular use other than the exact people you would not trust with anything confidential, like Google.

      There's also Jitsi, but that has the doubtful honour of having a user interface that's worse than Microsoft Office and, to make matters worse, it runs on Java.

      1. joed

        Re: What used to set it apart from the rest...

        WebRTC may be available, yet even Mozilla discontinued the FireFox Hello. It's just that existing networks/contacts and inertia matter a lot to users (including myself). Still, with all the privacy consideration I'd not use Skype for anything outside legacy (=family) contact. And I'm not sure why MS has any willing insiders ever since the release of W8. Employees?

  5. Pascal Monett Silver badge

    That's going to help

    "taking it away from its peer-to-peer roots in the name of a browser-based client and in the hope it can add more services

    and more bloat, and more useless "features", and some CPU-cycle eater that MS seems to have an endless supply of. Then, of course, it will be "integrated" with Office and IE (in the kernel, obviously), and end up in a WU mandatory high-priority patch that will tie everything in with your MS profile.

    Thank God I'm on my way to Linux.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I can't think of a Microsoft acquisition which wasn't eventually ruined

    Skype has become bloated and buggy after it was acquired by Microsoft.

    It got worse after the forced marriage of MSN Messenger with Skype.

    It's time to wean oneself out of Microsoft's ecosystem. There are a few quality video chat apps out there.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Big Brother

    Microsoft recently re-built Skype

    "Microsoft recently re-built Skype as a cloud service, taking it away from its peer-to-peer roots" making it easier for the state security apparatus keep tabs on the voters.

  8. Anonymous South African Coward Silver badge

    Keeping Skype for the IM feature... some colleagues still are using skype...

    ...time to get them to move over to telegram/whatsapp/allo etc...

  9. cambsukguy

    The UWP Skype has some advantages at least

    It loads quickly, essentially integrated into the system.

    The benefit that UWP gives of having the same app on the phone, available at the same time is very handy.

    Now Skype (although still in preview) integrates mobile Text messaging into the conversation thread, like WinPhone of old, but incorporated into the PC version too, it is more compelling than (say) WhatsApp with its PC interface in a browser (although that is useful when having to type a lot).

    We definitely need the location bit back though, too useful to lose.

    1. joed

      Re: The UWP Skype has some advantages at least

      Being integrated into the system is not advantage (as proven by IE and now Edge and Cortana). Unless you like to share all your details with MS. I bet you also sign in with MS account (missed the little print during the setup?).

  10. Dan 55 Silver badge
    Big Brother

    Is this for the alphabet agencies?

    Please remember while we're really excited to share with the folk who sign up, we don't want to spill the beans to anyone outside of this program and so please keep it a secret!

  11. John Crisp

    Skype got dumped. Started looking the momemt M$ announced their intentions.

    I want a discreet program, not more browser bloat..and it has become much more buggy and unreliable since the move to the cloud. As my PFY said "the only program we have an issue with at work is the one program we still use from M$" He's learning fast :-)

    RocketChat is interesting if you want to try bleeding edge. No idea if it will fly but it's an adventure to try.

  12. Tim Seventh
    Joke

    Skype Insiders

    Wait what skype insiders? Didn't the windows users got it with the force update?

    meanwhile,

    GWX: Hi, I'm the new Skype. You have been scheduled for a 3am skype call. Click close to ignore this message. Oh and if you want to reschedule the skype call, please go to microsoft/BrokenLinks or microsoft/OutdatedDocumentation for detail that we're too lazy to put in to make the users' life easier.

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