I think, on balance,
I'm prepared to take the risk. Who wants to live forever?!
Men of a certain age who enjoy frequent sex are putting themselves at higher risk of heart attacks and other cardiovascular problems, US researchers have warned. And just to rub salt in the wounds, older ladies who still enjoy a bit of the other reap positive benefits from frequent nookie. The frankly depressing revelation …
This reminds me of the old Russian joke about not drinking, "Do you actually live any longer?" NO, it just seems that way.
From my perspective I'd have thought that being sexually inactive is more likely to cause an early death, nothing worse for the old ticker than a life of constant frustration.
BTW, have you got this whole story the wrong way around, or was that a massive typo?
The study found that older men who had sex once a week or more were “much more likely to experience cardiovascular events five years later than men who were sexually inactive.”
This is saying that men who make the beast with the 2 backs get an extra 5 years before the ticker gives up since there is clearly no point in still being alive any more.
No it means that a 5 years study found that cardiovascular events were much more likely, not that they lived for 5 more years. When I was diagnosed with Prostate Cancer I was told I had only a 25% chance of surviving for 20 years unless I had the Prostate and Vas Deferens surgically removed. I told the Surgeon that 1 in 4 odds for 20 years of sex sounded pretty good to me compared to 30 years as a Eunuch. I've had two more good years so far, and while I might regret my decision during a lingering death by cancer, I don't think I will.
Elevated blood pressure and heart rate? One would expect it to have the same impact.
Same for any strenuous activity: It's going to impact on your ticker.
I guess it doesnt impact on women as much because they don't need to put in as much effort during sex...
...unless you go for the cowgirl approach...
Now that would be the next logical step: Check on the sexual positions adopted during sex and categorise by those. Reevaluate the outcomes and see if that has any impact on cardiovascular incidents on the participants...
Uhm... let me guess.
You're a 40 year old virgin still living at home with mum and dad?
You share the computer with them so you don't watch porn because they monitor your internet use?
Really?
Maybe we should open up a kickstarted account to help you buy a book called the Kama Sutra ?
That may help... assuming your local library doesn't have a copy or anything on sex ed.
Mine's the coat with the old unused condoms since before I was married.
Yes, condoms do have expiration dates, no duh.
But since being married, haven't had need to use the little rain coats ...
The sad thing is that you missed the obvious question... why did I still have condoms in the pocket and never taken them out... ';-)
I hate to interrupt this outbreak of bad jokes that normally needs at least alcohol as an excuse, but this forum is *public*, and thus also read by women. Maybe I'm the only one worrying about a degree of decorum, but it's not really the kind of thing to say in public, is it?
Now that would be the next logical step: Check on the sexual positions adopted during sex and categorise by those. Reevaluate the outcomes and see if that has any impact on cardiovascular incidents on the participants...
I agree, that needs investigating.
Where do I sign up?
Based on the anecdotal tales of us older guys and our love lives. Where the hell did the researchers get a sample size large enough to be statistically significant...
Presumably from commentards who clicked on the banner sex ads on El Reg's home page. Time to install an ad blocker again methinks.
"for the consumption of "supplements" by the men involved?"
That would do it. Boner pills do affect your blood pressure. Men who aren't having sex aren't taking boner pills ("it is sincerely hoped"), so if they didn't correct for boner pills taken by the geezers who *are* having sex, their study may be hooped. Or maybe it says more about boner pills than it does about geriatric sex.
Before reading the remark of "Justicesays", I was going to suggest that the story was a mathematical joke. April is the 4th month. 4=2^2. September is the 9th month. 9=3^2. September Fools!
'A parenting failsafe would reduce fertility to zero 15 years prior to end of life.'
Well, that would be useful. Become infertile in 2016, make no plans for after 2031, take out a large loan repayable in 16 years, update insurance policy.
Anyway this does not affect me. My family have been sterile for generations.
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Yet more anti-man, pro-feminist agenda shoving to make us all feel utterly worthless as we get older. There's no evidence here at all, just a correlation, but because its so utterly PC its going to be repeated by popularist press and other agenda led organisations ad nauseum until it becomes accepted fact.
Bullshit.
I don't get it. How is it feminist bullshit? If the correlation was that sex was fabulous for the health of older men and terrible for older women, would that be OK, or also feminist bullshit? I don't get how it is 'politically correct'. Correlation is a scientifically proven way of looking at things. It needs to be able to e replicated to be solid. But I am not sure why saying older men's hearts and vascular systems etc are a little more fragile in old age than in youth is anti-men. It's just the way physical systems work, in the same way that females often sustain injury or even die in childbirth.
It trikes me that you are a chap who sees feminazis behind pretty much everything. Chill, dude.
Well.. if we correlate this article and the one on robot sex together are we to conclude that the older men having sex with robots that never tire will all die ? Is this a women's supermacy group's doings ? Will we see men getting exterminated by female robots in masse ? In fact is this the rise of the machines that we all so feared , to eliminate the male population and make solyent green of them ? hmm ..
Guess i had too much coffee :)
Well.. if we correlate this article and the one on robot sex together are we to conclude that the older men having sex with robots that never tire will all die ?
A resounding yes - all evidence points that way. Same body of evidence indicates that all women indulging in the same will snuff it. In fat, broadening out the question, all men and women will die no matter how active they are.
I remember decades ago a space opera novel where much of the population had undergone an operation (or maybe implants, it doesn't matter) to say bye-bye to the familiar patterns of exertion and rest, waking and sleeping. So a guy who had not undergone the procedure was travelling (in a space ship, naturally) with a woman who had recently taken the plunge. Because she didn't tire, they were now "incompatible", and he suffered all manner of existential angst. But if I recall correctly, they encountered a situation where his rhythms saved them from a crisis. So maybe all was forgiven.
Not in absolute time, but certainly the time saved by not crashing PC's should enable them to spend their time more efficiently, thus saving a lot of time otherwise spent OT. They certainly experience lower stress levels, unless forced to do maintenance as well on a Windows or MacOS machine park. Nothing as frustrating as having to help those sods in full knowledge how much easier your life could be.
Not in absolute time, but certainly the time saved by not crashing PC's should enable them to spend their time more efficiently, thus saving a lot of time otherwise spent OT.
Sounds like wishful thinking. I never had any particular problems with w7 crashing. Mint 17.3 locks up about once a week, most likely due to the Radeon video driver. The FOSS driver is complete shit and the proprietary one is almost as bad. Further, copying the boot partition to a removable hard drive with gparted killed Mint.
Don't get me wrong here; over the last 14 months I have become quite fond of Mint. It's just that pretending Linux is faultless is just as fatuous as believing Windows or OS X are faultless. They all run on computers!
I seem to recall the BOFH describing computers as devices for losing data some years ago...
The study found that older men who had sex once a week or more were “much more likely to experience cardiovascular events five years later than men who were sexually inactive.”
So here it's saying that a horny old duffer will have an extra 5 years before problems arise compared to a droopy old git that cant get it up.
The rest of the article goes on to say that the randy old bugger is the one in danger. So which is it?
I would like to know how this correlated with the measured fitness of the study cohort. For a gent who does the typical life progression and lets himself get weak as he ages, enthusiastic sex is an increasing strain on the system. Some guys instead work to stay fit and strong as they age. Do the above-average fitness guys suffer this effect as well?
This matters to me, since I'm working hard on being fit (not merely not-fat) with a mind to handling age better. Being a gnarly and strong old dude I hope to have good luck with the ladies (or lady, if I'm in a good partnership). Shame to think that would KILL ME.
So, what? Stay single, and avoid heart attack at some point during rumpy pumpy but heap stress on due to lack of emotional support during lifes roller coaster and possible prostrate death? Or marry with usual inevitable offspring stress, spouse stress, inlaw stress but semi regular sex to maybe reduce chances of your prostate going all mutant but satisfying the relationship might eventually kill you...?
Good grief, all these types of articles are a prime source of stress most likely to lead to an early death from one thing or another IMO.
Think I'll give up reading and take up a moderate drinking habit instead.
Question. If Sex is likely to kill me with a Heart Attack and Avoiding Sex is likely to kill me because of Prostate Cancer, what is Morris Dancing going to do for me?
Given how many OLD Morris Dancers there are around the country who are over the age of 75 and who keep themselves fit by dancing Morris and also - one assumes - servicing their wives, then clearly the research is flawed.
Sex is the equivalent of a Five Mile run. An hour's worth of Morris Dancing also gives your heart an equal workout, according to my Heart Specialist. Either way, I shall Die Happy!
Question. If Sex is likely to kill me with a Heart Attack and Avoiding Sex is likely to kill me because of Prostate Cancer, what is Morris Dancing going to do for me?
To be honest, if I had to choose between Morris dancing (pedant: only "Morris" gets a capital letter) and sex (which deserves one but doesn't get it, fnarr fnarr) I know what I would rather be doing when I passed away.
Hint: it wouldn't involve Morris :)
"Try everything at least once in your life, except incest and folk dancing."
To be honest, if I had to choose between Morris dancing (pedant: only "Morris" gets a capital letter) and sex (which deserves one but doesn't get it, fnarr fnarr) I know what I would rather be doing when I passed away.Hint: it wouldn't involve Morris
I'm not sure why the surname Dancing doesn't justify the use of a capital letter. I wouldn't have sex with anyone called Morris either, regardless of their surname, mainly on the grounds that they are most unlikely to be a female. Though you never know these days...
It's not like she/it will belittle you for not giving it your A-game.
Depends if you're generating energy or using it, I guess :).
Could be a whole new source of energy, fornigenerators. Never was there more enthusiasm for green energy by young as well as old, the only environmental issue would be a sharp ramp up in the use of tissues.
Yes, yes, I'll have a lie down now, thank you. Joining me?
"Once you have squirted out the contents, the bottle is just waste. And the faster you use the contents the quicker the bottle is finished."
- Getting all Tantric might not necessarily help, I don't necessarily know if using the bottle and not spilling the contents* is likely to count as a plus as regards the negatives of not having sex, and it's the grunting bit that has been reported to be potentially fatal and running out of juice (would cream be better?).
*You could fake it with a syringe of flour and water I guess.
So good news for her, bad for me. I think she must have been tipped off to this, she recently asked me to write down where I've got any money "just in case something happened to me". She's planning on wearing me out early and living to a ripe old age. Oh well, I suppose I'll have to accept my fate.
Hey, do you know where this so called all singing all dancing "survey" bollox comes from,
The country* where:- Nearly three-quarters of men and more than 60% of women are obese or overweight.
No wonder they pop their clogs only 5 years after getting frisky.
They probably damage the floor at the same time.
The author*?
Comes from the ONE and only country in the world with a giant demographic timebomb, shaped like:- "ONE COUPLE ONE CHILD!"
If you're European, physically fit, and eat properly, all the opposites are obviously true.
Thought so!
*Copyright © 2016 by American Sociological Association
**Hui Liu Associate Professor of Sociology at Michigan State University.
Before joining MSU in 2008, she received her B.A. and M.A. in economics from Nankai University, China
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Maybe old men die because of the missionary position. It's very difficult to breath, with your face buried in the pillow. Us men can't cope with the lack of Oxygen. And as for whispering sweet nothings in her ear...
I prefer to let her get on top and do all the hard work, as it saves my back and knees... and doesn't over-stress my ticker. Women on top, one of the few benefits of Feminism. ;-)
That proves nothing of the sort. It sounds like their diet is granting them the longer healthier live, and they are making good use of it. Unless they show the people who don't have sex are the ones dragging down the lifespan average, the sex sounds much more like a result of being healthy at 100 than the cause.
Even if taken at face value, there are a lot of things that are bad for you but you choose to do them anyway knowing they may shorten your life. Why would anyone skydive or race cars? Why would anyone drink beyond a medically "moderate" amount? Why would anyone visit countries with higher rates of terrorism or violent crime higher than one's own? Why would anyone drive?
There are a lot of things that will reduce average life span, and I imagine few men are willing to give up sex in exchange for living a bit longer. If it cut your life span in half that might be a different matter (at least for some) but this is surely at the margins or it would have been previously observed.
Its not quantity of life, its quality of life :)
Rather than finding this article depressing, I want to thank El Reg for giving me another line; "Baby, have I ever shown you the beneficial health effects of the release of the female sex hormone during orgasm? I only ask because you know I am watching out for your health, dear."
Let's just hope that doesn't turn into an awkward "Orgasm--what's that?" or "The last time you gave me one of those was when people still called me Miss" conversations.
Its kind of warm in here, honey--let me take off your coat.