Dell confirms price rise post Brexit vote as UK pound stumbles Dell has blamed a Brexit-induced sterling meltdown for a double-digit price hike across its portfolio in the UK. As we revealed last week, the British pound has weakened to a 31-year low against the US dollar, making price rises inevitable. Today’s rate is 12.4 per cent lower than before the EU referendum. Channel partners …
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"I also want a laptop with two drive bays - the web sites never seem to state or have a filter, for laptops with 2 drive bays."
If the laptop has an optical drive (rare these days) it can be turned into a hard drive bay.
Many laptops have a 2.5" drive bay AND an M.2 slot.
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Damn, you want an M.2, two drive bays, AND an optical drive? Geez, that seems a bit much for a portable unit. I found a 128GB M.2 + 1TB spinning rust was good, with an external Bluray reader in the bag in case it's ever necessary (only a couple of times), and today you can easily get 1TB M.2 and 2TB SSD or 4TB spinning rust, which is a pretty massive combined capacity without even needing a second 2.5 slot.
Nowadays you're starting to see laptops with NO 2.5 drive bays, so maybe it'll become a real problem someday, but those are still mostly the tiny super-tablets and ultraportables I have no interest in.
"If you remove the cost of pre-installed Windows 10 you can save approximately 10%"...and also lose the money that comes from paying for all the pre-installed free trial crap which invariably depends on Windows. I don't know if it's still the case but that used to be worth more to the manufacturer than the cost of Windows so the cheapest route to a Linux PC was to buy a Windows PC and blow away Windows.
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Nah, big companies do what big companies do best...
Followed your link
http://www.dell.com/uk/business/p/inspiron-15-3552-laptop-ubuntu/pd?oc=bn55215
and indeed, £ 169 is not a bad price (if you want a laptop like that)...
Now, what would that be in euros than..?
http://www.dell.com/de/unternehmen/p/inspiron-15-3552-laptop-ubuntu/pd?oc=bn55215#AnchorZone3
Hummm, € 229 (~ £ 194)...
So what if I like Danish keyboards anyway...
http://www.dell.com/dk/p/inspiron-15-3552-laptop-ubuntu/pd?oc=bn55215
kr 2188 (~ £ 249)
Really..?
What about Swiss Francs? Everybody loves those...
http://www.dell.com/ch/p/inspiron-15-3552-laptop-ubuntu/pd?oc=bn55215
CHF 330 (~ £ 258)
Er...
Norwegian model anyone?
http://www.dell.com/no/p/inspiron-15-3552-laptop-ubuntu/pd?oc=bn55215
3038 kr (~ £ 276)
So I thought the piece was about Dell increasing their prices in the UK. If this is the way that the Dell kit of the Dell Accounting Dept. computes this, I think I'll pass on this one...
Nah, big companies do what big companies do best...
Followed your link
http://www.dell.com/uk/business/p/inspiron-15-3552-laptop-ubuntu/pd?oc=bn55215
and indeed, £ 169 is not a bad price (if you want a laptop like that)...
Now, what would that be in euros than..?
http://www.dell.com/de/unternehmen/p/inspiron-15-3552-laptop-ubuntu/pd?oc=bn55215#AnchorZone3
Hummm, € 229 (~ £ 194)...
So what if I like Danish keyboards anyway...
http://www.dell.com/dk/p/inspiron-15-3552-laptop-ubuntu/pd?oc=bn55215
Fra 2188 (~ £ 249)
Norwegian model anyone?
http://www.dell.com/no/p/inspiron-15-3552-laptop-ubuntu/pd?oc=bn55215
3038 kr (~ £ 276)
So I thought the argument was that Dell was increasing their prices. If this is the way that the Dell kit of Dell accounting computes this, I think I'll pass on this one...
>So I thought the argument was that Dell was increasing their prices. If this is the way that the Dell kit of Dell accounting computes this, I think I'll pass on this one...
You need to adjust those prices - some of them include VAT, delivery and recycling tax. It is nonetheless true that UK Dell prices have been on average 10 to 20% cheaper than most of Europe/EU for a while - economies of scale as their biggest customer.
Yes, because of course we are all poor, retarded, penniless racists.
A bit of context on the pound from MSE:
"Before the EU vote a pound bought €1.30ish - it's now a little under €1.18. At this rate your holiday will be far more expensive than last summer when it was €1.43, a bit more expensive than the summer before but a touch cheaper than the year before that when it was €1.15 - so this ISN'T a historical anomaly."
Yes, it is struggling against the dollar, but it isn't the fact of Brexit itself that is causing issues, it's that we are not getting on with it.
Here is the story of my great, great Uncle:
Hugh Dalton was born in Croston, near Chorley on the 27th January 1890, the son of William and Mary; they had five children.
He enlisted in the Pals on the 26th September 1914, giving his address at 7 Church Street, Croston and working for his father who was a Blacksmith in the village; he worshipped at St. Mary’s in Croston.
Hugh Dalton came through the Somme battle in 1916 unscathed, only to contract Nephritis (a kidney infection) at Bethune in January 1917. He was admitted to 94 Field Ambulance and then the 1st Canadian General Hospital at Etaples on the 29th January 1917. He was shipped back to the U.K. for treatment, spending nearly three months at the 1st / 5th General Hospital in Leicester; he then spent a week convalescing at a hospital in Ashton-in-Makerfield, near Wigan at the start of May.
Hugh was eventually discharged from the Army on the 16th November 1917, giving his address as the Black Bull Hotel in Horwich. His record showed that he was awarded a pension of 8/- (eight shillings [40p]) a week for a year at the end of 1919.
In 1920, he married Mary Bromley in Bolton; Hugh Dalton died in 1963.
He was one of the lucky ones, he lived. Many other young people did not. No future for them.
So PLEASE, do not give me all this utter, total, absolute bollocks about your life being over, or you have no future, because of Brexit. The world is still open to you, Europe will still be open to you.
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> Dells are already made elsewhere in the EU
Dells are already *assembled* elsewhere in the EU: from pre-built motherboards and other subsystems made in the Fast East, using chips made in the USA and the Far East.
In any case, the pound has fallen a long way against other currencies (including the euro), not just the dollar.
"As I see it the speculators selling £ are making the UK a whole lot more attractive as a manufacturing base."
Offset by the hike in tariffs for selling those manufactured goods onwards, once we're out of the single market. To make it attractive to manufacture those goods here, the cost of manufacturing them has to be very low. Which basically means low wages. So we can attract foreign investment for manufacturing, in the same way that China does; by having low-paid workers. It's a gutsy approach; as the rest of the world tries to move up the value chain, chasing high-pay economies, the UK decides to move back down the chain.
It's not very often a company has a "legitimate" reason to instigate a massive price hike, so I get the impression it goes like this:
"Whoo no Brexit! Loadsa money in the Sky Rocket, here's a price increase!"
or
"Boo, Brexit! Everyone's Boracic lint, loadsa Barney Rubble, here's a price increase!"
Also, you might want to aim some of that vitriol at the last five successive governments who have managed to alienate half of population in quite an impressive manner.
Do you really mean manufacture? As in Dell would also need to persuade Intel/AMD to open a processor fab in the uk; Someone like Micron to open a memory fab in the UK; Western Digital to open a hard drive factory in the UK... and onward for all the other components that make up a computer?
Or did you mean "assemble" rather than manufacture, in which case you get to pay for all those components in dollars (cos that's what they are traded in) and then use our "famously cheap high quality well trained" UK workforce to assemble them - then you get to compete to sell them against all the countries that aren't weak vs. the dollar... on WTO tariffs until something else is negotiated.
Move manufacturing to the UK to make more profit? To make it worth doing the UK workers would have to work for less than their competitors in the developing world (less, because they've got trade agreements, and we'd be starting from scratch). So the opportunity does exist, if UK workers are willing to work for less per hour than someone in a factory in China or Malaysia.
Seems to me just an excuse to fleece the UK again. Many US firms think 1£ =1$ any way. As some one who does have massive purchasing power in a UK company, I will enjoy having this conversation with the prospective Dell account manager next week. I suspect the 10% increase won't even be brought up.
If they can make the price rises stick, then there is a question about whether the market is competitive enough.
But more likely they will put prices up, people will push their existing kit along a little longer or change supplier, volumes will drop and the price will go back down again as market reality hits home that a currency shift means suppliers are the ones that take the hit.
The world is short of demand. There isn't anywhere else in the world to shift this stuff.
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