EMC, Cisco and pals nail colours to the EU Remain mast American storage seller EMC is the latest tech tanker to tell the good burghers of Britain it wants the country to remain in the EU, and it even did so without mentioning Hitler or ISIS. Outgoing CEO Big Joe Tucci and execs at other big businesses including Cisco, Ford of Europe, Airbus, Mars, IBM UK and Microsoft UK signed a …
As your corporate overlords, we value you your ability to easily move between countries as it keeps our staff costs low.
Sure it may create a large transient workforce that tire of low pay and constant relocation to find jobs, while slowly removing them from the political process (sorry, you're not registered here....), but look at the lovely bonuses we get.
Remember, you're in a socialist paradise that you shouldn't question. Your political masters would never do anything to harm you. Unless you disobey....
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Yes, I think we've previously, repeatedly and clearly established that big business wants the UK to stay in the EU. The question is whether this corporate armtwisting has reached the point beyond diminishing returns, and is in fact driving more votes into the exit camp.
It's very hard to write a text addressed to a whole country without it ending up as condescending baby talk, and probably impossible for corporate PR people to avoid that tone, because it's built into their DNA. So I guess we have to ignore that when reading it and focus on the argument: "or be faced with negotiating bi-lateral trade deals with Europe and the rest of the world... [exiting the EU] will slow business and government decision making for a period of time". In other words, bugger up the UK as a trading nation for many years. QED. Remain, and don't forget to vote.
"comparing the EU to Hitler ... nothing farcical about the comparison" It's not farcical, indeed, it's just pathetic. The EU isn't trying to create a monolithic Europe, just a Europe with uniform practices for trade, labour and rights. Actually the EU is a very strong defender of national and linguistic identity and regional culture, if you hadn't noticed. And the EU doesn't do things by stealth - actually Hitler did that, for example his attacks on Poland and Russia were pure stealth attacks.
There would be even more ITYS in the sad event of a Brexit.
Did you see Jeremy Paxman's programme last night that looked into how the EU runs.
>Paxman in Brussels: Who Really Rules Us? <
It was a real eye opener, it changed my mind.
At a point 4:46min into the programme Jeremy observes this astounding display at the 23 Million Euro visitors centre.
> “National sovereignty is the root cause of the most crying evils of our time and of the steady march of humanity back to tragic disaster and barbarism…The only final remedy for this supreme and catastrophic evil of our time is a federal union of the peoples..”<
After that the situation is shown to be much worse than I could have imagined.
(see also http://www.edmundburkeinstitute.ie/category/latest-essay/ )
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There is nothing farcical about the comparison. Hitler tried to create a monolithic Europe by force, the so called EU are trying to do it by stealth
What stealth. They've never tried to hide what they're doing.
>Paxman in Brussels: Who Really Rules Us? <
It was a real eye opener, it changed my mind.
Didn't change my mind (I've been locked into lets leave and lets do it quick for a number of years) although the Strasbourg thing actually blew my mind, had no idea that was going on. What really caught my attention was Paxman swinging between looking like he wanted to throw up in disgust and trying his best not to laugh all the way through it.
I completely agree that the EU isn't trying to create a monolithic Europe.
However, the EU also has a number of pressing issues that it hasn't really attempted to address (the economics around the Euro being a prime example) that really need to be addressed by a more uniform approach that addresses some of the underlying social and business practices. They have survived 30 years avoiding the question and 2008 almost sank them - if there was another economic storm around the corner, I don't think they can continue without major changes of a significant number of European financial organisations.
Having said that, Boris's comments around Hitler where always going to be an own goal:
a) the surrounding statement was too long for newspaper headlines/television sound bites
b) he mentioned Hitler...
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I recommend that everybody read the "Treaty of Lisbon" http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=OJ:C:2007:306:TOC.
I've just started and it is really helping me differentiate between the rhetoric and facts that are being thrown at us by both camps. I still have a long way to go before I can make any definite decision about "To Brexit or not to Brexit", but I tend to lean towards Brexit. This is largely due to my belief that more admin never helped any organization/company/country achieve lasting success.
Happy reading!
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