back to article Cities are investigating, workers are on strike, but it's not all good news for Verizon

US telecoms giant Verizon is once again facing government scrutiny for a rollout of its network services in a major US city. The city of Philadelphia mayor's office has put out an open call to citizens asking if they have the ability to get Verizon FiOS, its fastest home fiber service. The campaign is part of an effort by …

  1. Youngone Silver badge

    It will cost how much?!

    Verizon, like all the US ISP monopolies have an amazing track record of funding politicians who pass legislation that hobble the competition. The history between Comcast and Chattanooga makes for interesting reading.

    Ultimately Comcast lost there, but the state of Tennessee didn't make it easy.

    I wonder if the mayor of Philadelphia is coming up for re-election. Expensive those elections aren't they?

    1. Wzrd1

      Re: It will cost how much?!

      We took a several year delay in getting FIOS in our area just south of Philly, due to the contract with the city and a further delay introduced by various townships holding up deployment for "gifts" like lighting from Verizon going through their townships.

      I'm sure some envelopes were passing the desks as well, stuffed with green paper.

      Delaware County and Philadelphia county are both lousy with corruption.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: It will cost how much?!

      He's only just been elected and he's no friend to Comcast (based in the massive tower across the street from his office) or Verizon. If he's in anyone's pockets, it's those of the unions and our very own Johnny Doc.

  2. RedneckMother

    Uh, duh...

    The "incumbents" have siphoned off "how much?" to "improve services", and have actually delivered "WTF?". Oh yeah, the C-Levels are enriched - "I forgot". And, let's not hurt the politicos, eh?

    When will the customers (no - not "consumers") get what their tax dollars have been paid for?

    /disgust

    1. Dabooka Silver badge
      Headmaster

      Re: Uh, duh...

      Watch it, the Quotation Police are on these boards and they want their marks back.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    given this

    And their behaviour around super cookies do Verizon win a prize as the most ethically bankrupt company in the US?

    1. Mad Chaz

      Re: given this

      No, that would go to the various levels of government.

    2. fishman

      Re: given this

      While Verizon is trying hard to get the "most ethically bankrupt company in the US" prize, Comcast pretty much has a lock on it.

      1. Dadmin
        Thumb Down

        Re: given this

        Don't forget the assholes of AT&T! Those guys suck pretty fucking hard too; shit customer service, overpriced contracts, all data routed through AT&T goes right to NSA. Fuck these assholes! Right "up" there with Comcrap. Verizon? Never done business with them, never gonna do business with them.

    3. ecofeco Silver badge

      Re: given this

      Until they start overthrowing countries and or killing their customers, no. But they sure are trying.

      And yes, many U.S. companies have done this. Google it. Especially ITT. (the old phone company)

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I can tell you exactly how things can get worse

    Belgian prison guards are on strike. Inmate priviledges have been restricted to a minimum. A judge has now ordered that as long as these 'inhuman conditions' persist (read : as long as the strike lasts) prisoners are entitled to 1000 Euro per day (yes, you read that right) damages for as long as these reduced priviledges persist.

    I'm seriously contemplating having myself incarcerated.

    1. Warm Braw Silver badge

      Re: I can tell you exactly how things can get worse

      Belgian prisons are already badly overcrowded hotbeds of radicalisation and the strike means that some prisoners are not only confined to overcrowded cells but are not getting showers, changes of clothes or even regular meals in some cases, Basic hygiene and food are not "privileges". Belgium's fractured and fractious state clearly needs some incentive to sort this out. Given that the only other avenue of redress would have been to release the affected prisoners from custody. this seems to me like the only practical way the judge could send a strong message to the parties to the dispute.

      Prisoners seem to be one of a growing number of subhuman underclasses - along with people on benefits and immigrants - who are being written out of mainstream society and excluded from the same rights as everyone else. If that's how you want the game to be played, prepare for the time that your next on the list.

      1. Anonymous Vulture
        Mushroom

        Re: I can tell you exactly how things can get worse

        Warm Braw spake:

        Prisoners seem to be one of a growing number of subhuman underclasses - along with people on benefits and immigrants - who are being written out of mainstream society and excluded from the same rights as everyone else.

        While prisons should be humane, people who are imprisoned are there specifically to exclude them from everyone else. They have been convicted of being incapable keeping to the code of behavior embraced by the remainder of mainstream society and have been deprived of a subset of the rights enjoyed by everyone else as a result*.

        Prison should be unpleasant to discourage recidivism. It also must allow for rehabilitation and provide opportunities for those incarcerated to learn skills to either aid them to function appropriately within mainstream society upon release, or to contribute to society from prison if they are serving a whole life order.

        *Yes, I am aware of the issues in justice systems around the globe, particularly in those countries where justice is not only blind, but bound, gagged, and buried in a shallow grave. This is not the situation I am discussing.

      2. ecofeco Silver badge

        Re: I can tell you exactly how things can get worse

        Prisoners seem to be one of a growing number of subhuman underclasses - along with people on benefits and immigrants - who are being written out of mainstream society and excluded from the same rights as everyone else.

        Got bad news for you. It's always been this way. The human race is rather insane that way.

  5. MarkA

    I've had FiOS in three places over seven years in Center City in Philly (what we call downtown for some reason) and the streets along which is did not pass at the start of the year are all being dug up at the moment. Obviously though they waited until all of the affected streets had been nicely resurfaced with lovely new Tarmac before coming along and carving the trenches out. That's my taxpayer dollars being hauled off in dump trucks.

  6. quxinot Silver badge

    It could be /SO/ worse!

    ... they could have to provide the services that they promise to their customers.

    Then they can flap their arms and fly to the moon. Lucrative market there, shipping cheese back...

  7. lockeptrv

    Follow the Money.

    And where are the Unions in all this? Sure, the bosses there don't receive any "envelopes stuffed with green paper".

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