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Paypal co-founder, Facebook investor, dope-loving Silicon Valley VC Peter Thiel is an official Trump delegate for California. The bombastic billionaire (Trump that is) released the delegate list [PDF] for California this week and alongside politicians like House majority leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) and Representative Darrell …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I spot a trend here ..

    he initially backed libertarian Rand Paul in his presidential bid, providing a $2.6m donation to his Super PAC. Then he shifted to former HP CEO Carly Fiorina, donating $2m to her campaign. When she dropped out, he supported Ted Cruz.

    Given that the chap has a history of identifying losers, it seems to be good news that he's now supporting Trump :).

    1. PleebSmasher

      Re: I spot a trend here ..

      Dream on, anon. Trump will become President of the United States of America in 2017. He will lay into that fake progressive Hillary with complete savagery. That's assuming he needs to and that the FBI doesn't end up indicting her, and maybe decides to take out one of her aides instead. #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

      1. Dadmin

        Re: I spot a trend here ..

        Nothing to see here, folks. Just another idiot with a bible, a gun, and not much sense.

        America is great now. I already explained this earlier. Get a clue, Pleebforbrains.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: I spot a trend here ..

          Thiel is a nutbar who believes in the "Singularity" and fears that Artificial Intelligence is going to destroy us all so he funds the "Machine Intelligence Research Institute" that pretty much does nothing but act as a sponge for Thiel's and other believers' money, though it does claim to "do foundational mathematical research to ensure smarter-than-human artificial intelligence has a positive impact." A good gig if you can get it!

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: I spot a trend here ..

            Where does one apply toe become a registered sponge ? I wouldn't mind sponging some of his money.

            I'm pretty sure I can come up with some 'foundational' (is this in any way related to fundamental ?) research in the field of physics and/or philosophy (ahem) to further positive impactednes of sentient AI development.

      2. MonkeyCee

        Re: I spot a trend here ..

        I love the smell of delusion in the morning.

        Clinton will win. Because she has the poll numbers, and the electorate already is quite familiar with both her and Trump. So almost no undecideds, the democratic policies are fairly clear, and anything Trump does now will either alienate his base (if they actually care about his inconsistencies) or makes it clear that nothing that comes out of his mouth can be trusted.

        Since the republican field was so weak, the GOP switched to focusing on the races which actually decide things. President is nice, but in practicality the other two branches of government have more influence in the long term. The current/next presidents appointment to the supreme court will probably have more impact than most of their their first term decisions.

        Trump is making a number of otherwise safe seats contested, because appealing to racists without using a dog whistle means those people of colour will vote against your party. White vote percentage is shrinking, and Trump managed to alienate the Latinos from the start.

        1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

          Re: I spot a trend here ..

          The current/next presidents appointment to the supreme court will probably have more impact than most of their their first term decisions.

          In terms of lasting impact, yes. First-term presidents have two choices: go big, which means squandering most of your political capital fighting entrenched interests (for good or ill); or press for smaller goals that mostly make only relatively minor adjustments.

          There are some exceptions, of course, like the Violent Crime Control act Clinton now famously says he regrets signing; that was in his first term, and contributed greatly to the outrageous incarceration state. And a first-term president can certainly do some damage, for example by continuing to prosecute an enormously expensive and long-running war, or by pulling out of that war and letting another nation collapse. (I never said it was possible to avoid doing damage.) But significant durable change is hard for a president to achieve, particularly in the first term (because except for Polk they're always playing it a little safe in anticipation of running again), and particularly these days when it's so easy to mobilize opinion against anything.

          You're also correct that the SCOTUS nominations are the #1 thing the GOP leadership is sorry to lose out on. Their real worry now are in-doubt Congressional seats (and recapturing their own unruly party, of course). This looks to be a year that will turn out the vote.

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: I spot a trend here ..

        I like Trump. He'll wreck America which is good.

        1. Simon Harris

          Re: I spot a trend here ..

          "He'll wreck America which is good."

          I would have thought turning any country into a wreck (or conversely making it too strong) is probably not good for the well-being of the the planet as a whole.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: I spot a trend here ..

          I like Trump. He'll wreck America which is good.

          The only thing in favour of Trump is that he would rip apart the established Washington cliques and power structures, and that could indeed do with a shake up. However, that is also the exact reason that I assume it's not going to happen.

          I don't think that is a bad thing because it takes more to run a country than what Trump seems to have. It takes a team of good people and Trump seems to be a loner in that respect, not to mention that he also lacks any government experience. Most people who aim for that position have already been functioning in government in some form and thus know how things work and where problems hide.

          However much Washington needs a good fundamental shake-up, I don't think Trump is a realistic choice.

  2. redpawn Silver badge

    Be known by your company

    I judge people by their associations. Cozying up to a windup fascist with no real positions sounds like a bad move in the long run, unless of course we end up like Italy in the 30's.

    Will try to avoid giving business to Thiel's companies.

    1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

      Re: Be known by your company

      This is a guy who's best known for helping found a de facto unregulated bank that regularly abuses its customers. I think it's hard to argue he's a fascist in the technical sense (he is, again in the technical sense, a breed of laissez-faire liberal; fascism is in theory an extreme form of demagogic syndicalism and in practice just another skin for authoritarianism). He's just a fool and an ass, who got lucky a couple of times. Exactly the sort to want to cozy up to a bully and isn't smart enough to see that said bully will say whatever his followers want to hear, and then do whatever he feels like doing.

      There are three types of party delegates in the US. There are real insiders, the smoke-filled-room types who know the score, practice realpolitik, and keep their ideological cards close to their chests. There are the stalwarts, the folks who donate their time and money to the party because they're True Believers, sincere but a little weak on the critical thinking. And then there are the fans, who are there for a fight, and aren't bright or aware enough to reach even the True Believer rank.

      Evidence suggests which category Thiel falls into.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Makes sense

    Thiel is personally a libertarian, so his backing Rand Paul makes sense. From there, it seems to be a preference cascade (although I have no idea how Fiorina got into the mix - maybe he knows her personally?), but at the end of the day he wants influence and a seat at the table so he's on board with Trump.

    And while I find Trump to be generally loathsome on personal, political, and philosophical levels, the fact is that right now he's the most likely winner - by a long shot - of the Presidential contest. As they say, the whole thing has been reduced to a multi-network reality television show, and Trump is winning based on experience...

    1. Rich 11 Silver badge

      Re: Makes sense

      As they say, the whole thing has been reduced to a multi-network reality television shit show, and Trump is winning based on experience...


    2. rblythe

      Re: Makes sense

      Okay, you get that the Americans don't vote for president by calling a candidate specific 1-'800-number', right?

    3. TomChaton

      Re: Makes sense

      Eh? Trump has to win everywhere. Clinton only has to win one or two swing states. Trump's appeal to the hardcore loonies he's attracted so far will wane as he tries to woo the moderates in his own party and democrats in swing states, who all hate him. He hasn't a snowflake's.

  4. Chris Miller

    There appears to be some sort of hair theme going on here, but I can't quite put my finger on it ...

    1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

      You don't want to put your finger on it. God only knows what it's made of.

  5. FatGerman


    ... he's got the hair for it, Does having hair that looks like it came off a rabid Lego man qualify you for the Republicans? 'Cos Boris Johnson's unemployed now...

    1. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

      Re: Well.

      Nah, Boris is grooming himself to become PM. So Britain can have it's own MiniTrump!

  6. Oengus

    Sounds familiar

    "separated from reality who conflates his personal experiences to that of everyone in the country"

    Sounds like most politicians!

    1. Rainer

      Re: Sounds familiar

      That seems to be true, unfortunately. Which is very sad. But still true.

    2. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

      Re: Sounds familiar

      Only this guy is worse and more dangerous than any politician. He doesn't have to toe a party line. He doesn't have to defeat competition. He doesn't have to answer to anyone. He can't be impeached. All he has to do is wave his checkbook. And he has the kind of money to make things happen. With great power comes grat responsibility? Yeah. In comic books.

  7. Kevin McMurtrie Silver badge


    He picked an odd location for a mansion too. If it's not in the center of a traffic jam, it's only because howling wet winds have driven everyone away.

    1. Barbarian At the Gates

      Re: Location

      A person having a lot of money in their possession is not an indicator of intelligence. Or taste, since I'm on the topic...

  8. Geoffrey W

    About Thiels hair

    I think his hair is not as depicted in the photo at the head of this article so you two commentards who appear to think otherwise go look again, but I have this horrible dream where we all become assimilated and start to look like The Hair Alpha. And when we all look the same then who shall we hate Upon The Dull Earth. The Hair Alpha believes none of the things he says and has said as much on more than one occasion, that we need not fear what he says because what he does is another thing entirely, but a man who will say anything is no better than a man who will believe anything even when he has been told that what he hears is untrue. Listen, you can hear the bars of the black iron prison ring as they open creakily and we peer inside...

    Interesting times to be alive.

    1. Paul 129

      It's giving me the shivers!

      30% of me wants to say nice photoshop, quite ironicly.

      The other 90% of me, wants to shout.




      Oh no! I cant say anything logically consistent,

      I'M INFECTED!!!!

  9. Winkypop Silver badge

    When do the REAL candidates show up?

    I've had enough of this silly reality TV series.

    When do the genuine candidates take to the political stage?

    1. Rich 11 Silver badge

      Re: When do the REAL candidates show up?

      2020. Although at least one of them will have the surname Kardashian (or be married to one, or play one on television).

      1. NotBob

        Re: When do the REAL candidates show up?

        2020 is unlikely. While we are only electing dor a 4 year term, most successful candidates run for and win a second term. Only the legal limits stop them then...

        Hold on, 2024 will be here eventually...

  10. Drew 11

    He's certainly rocking that sine wave hairstyle. He should consider making it permanent.

  11. michael Sheridan

    Assholes attract.

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Assholes attract each other.

  13. Rich 11 Silver badge

    Asshole magnetism.

    1. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

      If only all that energy could be harvested and fed into the national grid.

      1. Geoffrey W

        All the energy is needed for creating hair as lush and dense as the asshole it sits upon

  14. HKmk23

    Lot of lefty luvvies on here it seems

    Trump is a business man, he will make America work. Unlike the idiots in the UK gov. The USA have had their Uncle Tom so God help us all if they put a woman in charge of the biggest nuclear arsenal in the world......

    1. MonkeyCee

      Re: Lot of lefty luvvies on here it seems

      Trump is a terrible businessman. Absolutely awful. If you paid any attention to what he's done, rather than what he bullshits about, it's very obvious.

      If he hadn't inherited his wealth, he'd have nothing. If he'd done nothing with his wealth other than put it in the bank or treasury bonds, he'd not only have more money than he does now, but he wouldn't have lost his investors a few billion along the way.

      But he's got confidence in spades and the ability to say contradictory things one after another without worrying about a thing. Being a playboy or a reality TV star these things are fine, even good.

      But by all means, if you think he'll be the best representative of your country, that's your call. Your sexism and racism clearly put you in the "dumb rube" vote that the republicans love. Confirm your biases, and you'll vote against all your interests.

    2. GrumpenKraut

      Re: Lot of lefty luvvies on here it seems

      So much arseholery in just two sentences. Congratulations.

      1. NotBob

        Re: Lot of lefty luvvies on here it seems

        A lot of arseholery, but it's in the support of another clinton presidency.

        If sanders didn't get screwed and could make his numbers add up, he could've been a contender. Unfortunately, trump is actually the best thing we have left available.

        The first clinton was good for the country, but this one wants to tear us apart.

        1. Geoffrey W

          Re: Lot of lefty luvvies on here it seems

          RE: "The first clinton was good for the country, but this one wants to tear us apart."

          Go on then. How does she want to tear us apart? What is her specific policy aimed at tearing us apart? Lets have some details. I'm open to persuasion and logical argument with workings used in reaching your conclusion.

    3. Geoffrey W

      Re: Lot of lefty luvvies on here it seems

      Trump is a business man who drove a casino into bankruptcy. It takes a special kind of business man to drive a money printing scheme into the ground.

      "Uncle Tom"?

      "Women in charge of bombs"?

      I think we know all we need to know about you, other than your address so we can check where you are in relation to ourselves.

      Have a nice day, now, you hear? I fear its going to get worse for you even if Trump achieves office.

  15. Matthew Taylor

    I don't know why everyone thinks Trump would be so awful as the US president. What do they think he's going to do? What makes George W Bush, Obama, and bloody Hillary Clinton so brilliant that only someone of their ilk can do the job? Trump seems anti war, he's not a religious nut, and he certainly is a brilliant, tough negotiator.

    I think the real outcry originates from the political careerists, who know that if someone from the world of commerce comes in and does their top job well, they'll be done for.

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