back to article Good enough IT really is good enough. You don't need new hardware

Enterprises are slow to adopt new IT. Or is it small businesses that are slow to adopt new IT? Wait, the mid-market is traditionally underserved and overly reliant on appliances so clearly they have to be the laggards! All of this is true, and none of this is true. It just depends on your point of view. Adoption of new IT …

  1. hplasm Silver badge
    Happy

    take the time to think for yourself and don't be led by marketing – nor the baying – of fools.

    This is good advice for life.

    1. AndrueC Silver badge
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      Re: take the time to think for yourself and don't be led by marketing – nor the baying – of fools.

      The Space Merchants should be required reading in school. I read it when I was a young teenager and I've never forgotten the message.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: take the time to think for yourself and don't be led by marketing – nor the baying – of fools.

      Then again I have seen enough shops penny wise and pound foolish that thought it would be a good idea to give their ready to throw away kit to the expensive contractors as well. Granted this was more relevant a decade ago but saving on nearly commodity hardware isn't always smart if labor is most of your costs.

  2. PaulAb

    I'm not...

    Hyperconverging, it's too big a word. I'm not moving over until this word is shortened to something simple, like cake or tea (I like those words and I understand them).

    1. Rich 11 Silver badge
      Pint

      Re: I'm not...

      Or like ------------------------->

    2. Horridbloke

      Re: I'm not...

      "Hyperconverging" is a pretty long word but round here we pronounce it "tosh".

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: I'm not...

      > Hyperconverging, it's too big a word. I'm not moving over until this word is shortened

      Certainly: have h13g.

      Or h14e for hyperconvergence.

  3. yoganmahew

    Outstanding

    in your own field if you carry on like that!

    More heresy please. The view is great as is the fresh air.

    [unapologetically mainframe]

  4. Franco Silver badge

    Interesting that El Reg post this sensible and well written piece on the same day as the latest round of you must all use DevOps propaganda.

    It all goes back to first principles, design based on requirements rather than on trends.

    1. ATeal

      Clearly you haven't tried making everything with javascript for this is not just a trend it is the future.

      Sadly that probably doesn't come across as sarcasm.

      Seriously though why is everything Javascript these days?

      1. John G Imrie

        why is everything Javascript these days?

        Because it pushes the compute cost onto the client/user rather than the server/web site.

        1. Frumious Bandersnatch Silver badge

          Re: why is everything Javascript these days?

          In theory, it also makes for more maintainable code. At least compared to something like server-side includes with embedded PHP, you can achieve a better separation between UI and "business logic". Nowadays, I guess that many people use Javascript because there are so many libraries available.

          It's a big, broad question, though, so reading up on Ajax is a good place to start.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: why is everything Javascript these days?

            > In theory, it also makes for more maintainable code

            In the browser, you don't really have any option. (Flash? Silverlight? Java? No thanks)

            In the server there are many options. Javascript just happens to be a rather simple and elegant language - with a few warts (although nothing compared to say PHP). And the fact that it's single-threaded eliminates a whole class of hard-to-catch errors from multiple threads.

            Oh, and old timers love minified javascript. It reminds them of modems before error correction.

            1. Skoorb

              Re: why is everything Javascript these days?

              Elegant‽ It's got six datatypes, one of which isn't usable yet in many browsers. Seriously, "number", "string"?

              Also:

              '' == '0' // false

              0 == '' // true

              0 == '0' // true

              null == false // false

              !null // true

              And for bonus points:

              /[A-z]/.test("\\"); // true

              1. Brewster's Angle Grinder Silver badge

                Re: why is everything Javascript these days?

                @Skoorb Which is why you use '==='.

                But PHP has an equals operator that coerces. And if you've come from, C++, you dumbly expect a == b to call decltype(a)::operator==(decltype(b)) (If you implemented std::string yourself, you could alter operator== to get some of those behaviours, if you wanted.) And while we're on the subject of C, how well do you know the promotion rules in C/C++? Because they make the above look straightforward.

                All languages have misfeatures.

          2. Naselus

            Re: why is everything Javascript these days?

            Because any idiot can learn passable javascript in three weeks.

            And from the state of most web interface offerings, spending any more than 3 weeks learning before going to to write customer-facing production software is strictly forbidden..

  5. DanX

    Cloud based desktops, sound amazing but...

    Take a hosted Desktop environment, and gain massively from easy to manage and deploy applications. Data security and other benefits too.

    Take this proposal to client at an SME, and try to explain those massive savings compared to the ongoing costs.

    What happens though - is they still need a desktop to run in their office - and even the worst desktop, will manage 90%+ of everything they need to do.

    Not an easy or obvious sell. What they have is good enough.

    1. Skoorb

      Re: Cloud based desktops, sound amazing but...

      Not to mention needing to entirely rip and replace a good chunk of your network setup, SAN etc.

      We run from over 500 sites, along with a load of people "agile" working off laptops. I'm sure quoting for that kind of external connectivity would have our Virgin Media account manager drooling.

      1. Naselus

        Re: Cloud based desktops, sound amazing but...

        We've been investigating the possibility of just using locally-hosted dumb terminals for a heavy CAD workload... every penny we'd save on client hardware is more than taken up by the massive upgrades required for our internal switches to take the load. I dread to think of the pipes we'd need for external hosting to be practical.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    No I DO need new hardware. I love that new hardware smell.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      It's all about balance...

      Install shiny new stuff, drop the old kit on a marketer.

      The world must be kept in balance...

      1. Smitty Werben Jueger Man Jenson

        Re: It's all about balance...

        " drop the old kit on a marketer."

        From the 6th floor BOFH style?

        1. Shadow Systems Silver badge

          @Smitty...

          Enjoy a pint from me for every upvote the system won't let me give you, just try not to get alcohol poisoning in the process.

          (Envisions giving the computer a hefty *THROW* to accellerate it on the way down, the better to maximize the splatter pattern.)

          MUH Hahahahahahahahaha...

        2. Captain DaFt

          Re: It's all about balance...

          " drop the old kit on a marketer."

          "From the 6th floor BOFH style?"

          I'd recommend the fourth floor. High enough to do damage, but not high enough to make aiming tricky. You wouldn't want risk missing the market critter, would you?

          1. Shadow Systems Silver badge

            Re: It's all about balance...

            Practice makes perfect. =-D

        3. calmeilles

          Re: It's all about balance...

          If six floors are all that you have...

    2. Rich 11 Silver badge

      Lick that new, new metal...

      1. John G Imrie

        Lick that new, new metal...

        You are Bender and I claim my £5

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    At last...

    ... someone is actually talking sense about IT equipment requirements.

    If it works and does the job asked of it why change to the latest and greatest that will require much messing about to get it to work to the same standard?

  8. RonWheeler

    The opposite

    of good enough is perfection.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: The opposite

      Nah, it's being so trendy that no system is ever finished before it gets ripped and replaced.

    2. John G Imrie

      Re: The opposite of good enough

      is expensive.

    3. tin 2

      Re: The opposite

      Surely it's "not good enough"....

    4. MonkeyCee Silver badge

      Re: The opposite

      Perfection is the enemy of good.

      A poor decision made now is often better than a good decision made after a suitably long thinking time.

      But that's often a real world vs academia argument.

      1. Andrew Harding

        Re: The opposite

        Don't ignore perfection just don't prioritize it over all else. In many cases 80% of perfection is achievable with only 20% effort. 80% = C

        I've witnessed people giving up on perfection and only producing 80% of "good enough" which equals crap. 60% = F

  9. nijam

    Nitpicking...

    ...but sometimes it has to be done. Loved to see the wonderful word "aught" used, but in that context "naught" (the opposite) would have been correct.

  10. LaunchpadBS
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    This article...

    Must go viral! The world needs to know the truth, before the machines take over and see just as many idiots as I do, only they decide they have no use for them and we're back down to a billion!

    1. mstreet

      Re: This article...

      A billion? That's a bit of a stretch isn't it?

  11. 45RPM

    Except that…

    The problem is that IT vendors cycle their hardware far too quickly these days - so, if you want to continue benefitting from support (kinda handy for mission critical kit), you need to run to keep up. I have systems running on DL380 G4 - and you know what? It's good enough. It does what I want - and there's no point in replacing it. Except that I can't get support for the bloody things anymore - so it's upgrade time to G9 (which, in turn, will be end of life this year I think). And so the wheel turns, and HPE continue to fill the coffers at our expense.

    Contrast with the happy days of VAX and Alpha - those things remained in production for years and, in most cases, remained supported for a decade or more. Halcyon days.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Except that…

      Not really a problem if you have the service department to deal with it.

      We have a client that has a number of DL385 G2 that are still running and doing the job they were bought for back then. Our service has enough spare parts to keep them going for at least the next twenty years which is all the client asks for, all the factory machine tools will be replaced by then.

      1. nilfs2
        Coffee/keyboard

        @Ivan 4 - Re: Except that…

        The electricity that those old toasters consume is probably worth more than the computing power they are giving.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Except that…

      Quite true. and yet...DEC is long gone while HPE lumbers on. At some point you have to throw money at your chosen vendors just to keep them in business, or else design your systems so elastically that everyone truly is a click away from being replaced. Either way you'll be paying.

      1. 45RPM

        Re: Except that…

        HPE gets handed great wodges of cash every year to support these systems - whether they require support or not. So don't cry for them - they're getting paid. But still they tell us that the systems can no longer be supported once they reach a certain age. Still doesn't stop them pocketing the money for the service contract though.

  12. Notas Badoff

    Seen on a business card...

    Oh please somebody print a bunch of business cards saying

    .

    Gottfried A. Boodle

    Aught but Avarice and Ego

    .

    or name of your persuasion, leave these around at conferences / business meetings / etc. , and we'll see which industry these are copied into. We know what kind of person that'll be - what'll be interesting is in what kind of industry this is considered mere bragging rights. Finance?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Seen on a business card...

      or a business card for your complaints department for

      Helen Waite

      Complaints Department

      Anyone who has a complaint can go to Helen Waite!

  13. PNGuinn
    Pint

    Evil Brute

    Trevor - you're an evil brute.

    Marketeers will weep.

    PHBs will shout and cry and throw their old toys out of their prams.

    KITTENS WILL DIE!

    And the rest of us heartily agree with you.

  14. a_yank_lurker Silver badge

    Lifecycles

    Most of the buzzword bingo is trying to convince someone that what works well for them is garbage. The cloud, etc. are tools to solve problems, use the correct tool for the problem.

  15. Oengus Silver badge

    Not just IT

    It isn't just IT that have the "Good enough isn't good enough" mantra.

    Look at the other industries

    Fashion: it was the latest and greatest last week. This week it isn't good enough.

    Cars: Last years model was good enough for you last year. You need the latest one now.

    Phones: I suppose they could fit under the IT umbrella (unless in my case where it is a phone not a smart phone)

    Cameras: 24 megapixel isn't good enough we have a 26 megapixel model now...

    Every industry is producing "Good enough for now". If they came up with perfect we would never need to buy another one and they would go out of business...

    1. Robert E A Harvey

      26 megapixel

      Quite. I have taken the opportunity to go from 8Mp to 12Mp to 18Mp to 28Mp, but only because I needed to buy a new camera at each time.

      That said, the Olympus's OM-D E-M5 II is interesting. It's "only" 16Mp, which is a perfectly reasonable sweet spot for taking jolly good pictures - but if you tripod mount it it subverts the image stabilisation motors to dither the sensor about and take a 50Mp image. That's clever, and I can see myself being attracted. But there is no /point/ in going backwards from AP/C to micro4/3rds, and from 28 to 16 just to get 50. So my wallet is safe.

      Probably

    2. Teiwaz Silver badge

      Re: Not just IT

      "The speed of technological advancement isn't nearly as important as short-term quarterly gains."

      - Quark 'Little Green Men'

  16. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

    "Falling for the marketing hype does your business more harm than good"

    Oh, oh, oh - DevOps, anyone?

  17. Jonathan Richards 1
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    Not only is good enough good enough...

    ... but better has to be >= (good enough + cost of implementation) where 'implementation' includes but is not limited to capital costs, installation, training, modification of test procedures, overhauling backup and disaster recovery, and the salesman's fat commission.

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