back to article Brit censors endure 10-hour Paint Drying movie epic

The British Board of Film Classification (BBFC) has determined that Charlie Lyne's 10-hour Paint Drying contains "no material likely to offend or harm", and has accordingly awarded it a "suitable for all" U certificate. Nicely described by the BBFC as "a film showing paint drying on a wall", Paint Drying is the result of a …

  1. Andy Non Silver badge


    When is it being released to the cinemas? Can't wait to watch it.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Brilliant

      Can't wait to watch it.

      Speak for yourself. I shall hold out for the 3D version because it will be so much more immersive as an experience.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Brilliant

        I'm going to wait for the special edition

        1. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge

          Re: Brilliant

          I'm going to wait for the special edition

          Director's Brush Edition?

      2. Fraggle850

        Re: Brilliant

        3D? Pah! I want full-on 360° VR

      3. tony72

        Re: Brilliant

        Speak for yourself. I shall hold out for the 3D version because it will be so much more immersive as an experience.

        I'll wait a few years for the remake, which will doubtless feature glossier paint and a more modern style of wall, and yet somehow fail to capture the atmosphere of the original.

        1. Lester Haines (Written by Reg staff) Gold badge

          Re: Re: Brilliant

          The problem will be the producers' insistence that the remake feature an American wall, as opposed to the grittier Brit original.

          1. Ben Boyle

            Re: Brilliant

            AFRICAN-American wall, so the Academy Awards nominations won't be a whitewash...

            1. TRT Silver badge

              Re: Brilliant

              Our college put on the stage version of this twice in 1985.

              The first time was about three weeks before our production of Cabaret and they put it on again about three weeks afterwards.

              For Cabaret, the freshly undercoated back wall of the stage was painted with a 40 foot high mural of can-can girls legs in fishnets with various lewd and leering audience members featured. That show was a killer as I had to move the fully loaded lighting bars back ten feet to light the back wall instead of the curtain! Queue some very strong ropes to make a sling for them to slide along. Also had to dig out and bring the old 1960s era foot-lights up to code. That was a learning experience. And I had to renovate one of the five Junior 8 banks that had burned out some years earlier. Needed full lighting for that production. This was in the days before you had to be certified to do that kind of shit.

              1. Graham Marsden
                Thumb Up

                Re: Brilliant

                I hope there's a Directors Commentary to go with it, just in case we miss a clever in-joke or homage.

                1. Dwarf

                  Re: Brilliant

                  It needs a second coat to enhance the depth of the experience.

                  Would that need to be re-censored ?

                  Personally, I think this is all a coverup !

                  1. TRT Silver badge

                    Re: Brilliant

                    I'll get my (second) coat.

                2. Dr Abner Mality

                  Re: Brilliant

                  You know the screening was the commercial release version. Forget the commentary, I'm waiting for the complete Director's Cut! Can you imagine what wound up on the cutting room floor?

            2. Stoneshop

              Re: Brilliant

              AFRICAN-American wall, so the Academy Awards nominations won't be a whitewash...

              The Rolling Stones saw this coming decades ago already and wrote a song to support it.

      4. ArtFart

        Re: Brilliant

        Heck, let's hope it's in IMAX, complete with their theatres' much-boasted of 4,000 watt sound systems.

    2. Magani

      Re: Brilliant

      I'm waiting for his next major work - Watching Grass Grow. I hear it's far more action-packed.

      It's beer-o-clock somewhere...

      1. Queasy Rider

        Re: Brilliant

        I understand "Chicken on a Rotisserie" is very moving.

      2. Franco

        Re: Brilliant

        AFAIK that's the third of the trilogy, Episode II will be "Sitting Around Watching Cars Rust". As an homage to Smokey and the Bandit, the car used will be a TransAm.

    3. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

      Re: Brilliant

      Bah. Blatant rip-off of some 1960ies experimental black and white art house movie from Finland whose name I can't remember. Haven't seen it myself, but I once overheard two film students discuss in it in the waiting line at the Sundance Festival five years ago.

      Will watch this one, though. But I'll wait for the DVD release, I want to watch it in slow motion to take it all in.

      1. x 7

        Re: Brilliant

        "Blatant rip-off of some 1960ies experimental black and white art house movie from Finland whose name I can't remember"

        Was it "50 Lines of Snow"?

    4. Amorous Cowherder

      Re: Brilliant

      What kind of DVD extras do we get?

      "Making of..."

      Torture of the artist as they go through the pain and anguish of selecting the right wall.

      The artist at B&Q till buying paint, did they select Dulux or did they go for an inferior product like Crown or worse, that B&Q own brand cack?

      Artist select correct grade roller and paint tray.

      Finally the application to the wall itself.

      Alternative endings?

  2. Unep Eurobats

    Cult status

    shirley beckons.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Well, you managed to get 3 of the letters right..

  3. Paul Westerman


    I expect the BBFC will just gloss over it.

    1. astrax

      Re: Meh

      The BBFC can brush off most things tbh. Rumour has it they are eventually going to offer a Dulux package for the bigger firms.

      1. Sir Runcible Spoon

        Re: Meh

        It's all a whitewash to cover up a badly built wall.

    2. Hans Neeson-Bumpsadese Silver badge

      Re: Meh

      It's the film-makers Crown-ing achievement

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        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Meh

          No need to feel like you're walking on eggshells

    3. The First Dave

      Re: Meh

      I'll bet the BBFC watched it on Fast-Forward - they may have to watch every frame, but doubt that there are any rules on how long they must watch each frame...

      1. Charles 9

        Re: Meh

        They have to let every frame show in case of a secret frame (one you can only see clearly if you pause right on that frame). A fast-forward runs the risk of skipping the frame.

        1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

          Re: Meh

          Apparently there is a scratch on one frame so they had t'cut it.

  4. DaLo

    Is this the one starring Mark Wallberg?

    1. dotdavid

      I think so. Directed by Wall Disney?

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    2. Jonathan Richards 1

      Nope. Matte Damon.

      1. Stoneshop


        Based on the novel by Benoite Grout.

  5. Anthony Hegedus Silver badge

    Is it a "found footage" zom-rom-com mockumentary-style dramedy?

  6. Blipvert

    'The Wall'....oh wait, the Floyd have already got that one!

    Charlie's wall is one of only a handful left in the world that haven't been shat on by Banksy.....better board it up Mr Lyne!

  7. Zog_but_not_the_first

    How long?

    Before it's considered to be pornographic, and reclassified?

    1. frank ly

      Re: How long?

      I make my own paint drying videos for private parties. They show a variety of paint types of various colours on different surfaces in different environmental conditions. They're much more interesting and can be quite exciting.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: How long?

      Right after you cum all over the wall.

  8. Scaffa

    I find the all-white cast to be yet another example of the film industries endemic racial bias.

    1. Lester Haines (Written by Reg staff) Gold badge

      Will Smith has already withdrawn from appearing at the première, I gather.

      1. A K Stiles

        I always knew that ginger beardy guy from was too big for his boots!

      2. TitterYeNot

        "Will Smith has already withdrawn from appearing at the première, I gather"

        Though to be fair, that was because the BBFC spokesman said that they'd rather watch Paint Drying every day for a week than sit through a single showing of Wild Wild West again...

        1. breakfast Silver badge

          Non-factual film fact

          Wild Wild West is the only film whose Wikipedia entry url is also the first line of the spin-off single.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Non-factual film fact


        2. TeeCee Gold badge

          Which begs the question as to how After Earth got released without them having to sit through it.

          (If you haven't seen it, imagine what WWW would have been like if Will Smith had written it too and then selected a director based solely on how far up his own arse he was to really guarantee that sweep at the razzies.)

        3. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          I actually liked Wild Wild West. AC for obvious reasons.

  9. Chairo

    Too easy

    They should have hidden somewhere a few seconds of "special" scene. Just to make sure they really verified the whole film.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Too easy

      Just to make sure they really verified the whole film.

      You don't think that they considered that the main risk? It's not like Charlie Lyne kept his plans secret, and the risk was always that if the fast-forwarded through it they'd miss something hugely embarrassing.

      Although equally, if they had a digital copy, they should have been able to get a frame on frame analysis to pick up any differences, check those out, then fast forward through at 50x, and the laugh would be on Lyne and his clown-funding chums.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Too easy

      Simple to detect with a frame differencer. Still no need to view the whole film.

      Plus who said they did it in one sitting anyway? Half an hour at the start of a day for a month...

      1. JetSetJim

        Re: Too easy

        I doubt the BBFC have a frame differencer to hand, so it's probably simpler, and cheaper, just to watch the whole shebang than to find one, work out how to use it, plonk this film through it, and write up the results.

        1. IR

          Re: Too easy

          The film should really have been a series of one-second-long stills and video clips, mostly of things that are innocent but also vaguely rude things like funny shaped vegetables/rocks/trees. Repeat the same ones a lot. The viewer would have to be paying close attention for the whole time because it changes so much. Add a soundtrack of a repeated song that changes volume every now and then, with some hard-to-decipher whispering in the background. Constantly intense is far worse than boring.

          1. Queasy Rider

            Re: Too easy

            Agreed, can't fast forward that.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: I doubt the BBFC have a frame differencer to hand,

          Didn't they used to check films for subliminals somehow? I figured that must have used some kind of frame differencer they could repurpose.

          1. Paul Stimpson

            Re: I doubt the BBFC have a frame differencer to hand,

            They might have a product akin-to "Flash Gordon" or "HD Gordon" to check for photosensitive epilepsy issues that might affect their staff. I don't know if that can be set to detect individual flash images.

    3. TheOtherHobbes

      Re: Too easy

      >They should have hidden somewhere a few seconds of "special" scene. Just to make sure they really verified the whole film

      Never mind that - a XXX rating for ten hours of paint drying? How cool would that be?

      1. TRT Silver badge

        Re: Too easy

        50 shades of white?

    4. DropBear

      Re: Too easy

      "They should have hidden somewhere a few seconds of "special" scene"

      Rookie mistake. NOT putting in anything is much more insidious - if there is something and you found it, you know it's there; but if you don't find anything you can never be sure whether you just missed it or there really isn't anything to find...

  10. Nigel 11


    I do hope that they spliced in a few minimum-legal-length subversive images? Phallic vegetables, maybe? Give them something to think about, or prove that they aren't doing their job thoroughly enough if they don't notice the added frames.

    1. Wibbly Wobbly

      Re: Subliminals

      And then, loads of other folk would want to sit through it to see those fleeting images too :-P

    2. Ben Bonsall

      Re: Subliminals

      Should have has a soundtrack with the Take Hart gallery theme on a one minute loop.

      With someone shouting cunt about 8 and a half hours in after they'd turned to volume down.

      1. Paul Stimpson

        Re: Subliminals

        How about an extra long version of something that would really grate after a while like "Je ne Regrette Rien" in about 15 different languages, all of which they will have to find a translator for to make sure the soundtrack doesn't contain any obscenities in any language.

        Prize for the most obscure language people can find...

        It would be so tempting to put one verse in a made up language like Na'vi to make them try to find someone who could identify and translate it.

        1. x 7

          Re: Subliminals

          "Prize for the most obscure language people can find..."


          specifically written for the rock band Magma to perform music

          Makes Klingon sound tame

  11. Haku

    Won't be long now until we get the movie "Ass".

    The acceptance speech at the oscars might be a bit smelly though.

  12. James O'Shea

    no doubt

    there'll be an even more dramatic sequel: 'Grass Growing'.

    1. phuzz Silver badge
    2. Michael Thibault

      Re: no doubt

      there'll be an even more dramatic sequel: 'Glass Flowing'.


      1. Arthur the cat Silver badge

        Re: no doubt

        there'll be an even more dramatic sequel: 'Glass Flowing'.

        and the sci-fi version, The Pitch Drop Experiment

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    How long before this ends up on Kickass?

    Looking forward to the directors commentary on the blu-ray

    1. BongoJoe

      Re: How long before this ends up on Kickass?

      You mean the James Cameron helmed version?

  14. G0HJQ

    Nice work if you can get it

    So they've just paid someone nearly £6000 to watch television for 10 hours?

    It's probably more interesting than the rubbish on the cable/satellite channels.

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  16. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    3 hour rule.

    Generally a film over 3 hours does really well in the Oscars.

    1. JetSetJim

      Re: 3 hour rule.

      The next campaign should be to get it nominated for a BAFTA/Oscar...

  17. BongoJoe

    Hidden Satanic Messages

    I hope that the BBFC also played this epic backwards looking out for hidden satanic messages.

  18. DrXym

    And the BBFC didn't care one way or another

    I bet most content submitted for classification is utter dreck. Bad foreign animations, bollywood movies, vids about recovering from surgery, hilights from the 1995 season of some 3rd division football team, new age whalesongs, warehouse training vids etc. etc.

    I bet the BBFC doesn't care what they're rating. It's their job to rate content, they get paid by the hour and they rate it. When they're done they move onto the next thing. Nobody is sticking it to the BBFC by making them watch paint dry.

    1. jason 7

      Re: And the BBFC didn't care one way or another

      I bet they stuck it on x4 with the sound on.

  19. Tromos

    Is it safe to read the comments?

    I do hope nobody gives away the ending.

  20. Dan 55 Silver badge

    I'd watch it

    Got to be better than M. Night Shyamalan's output.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: I'd watch it

  21. Alister

    I recognise that still picture!

    It's from about 3hrs 47min into the film, a really tense period, with an unexpected dénouement...

  22. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Would it class as an 'action' movie?

    Just wondering.

    1. Gazareth

      Re: Would it class as an 'action' movie?

      Dye Hard.

      1. Sir Sham Cad

        Re: Would it class as an 'action' movie?

        "Dry Hard" shirley.

  23. td0s

    I think it's worth pointing out the masonic themes of this piece, it looks like a truly emulsive experience. We shouldn't brush over the efforts of this artisté

  24. Sir Barry


    Paint Drying 2 - Stippled in Homebase starring Matt Emulsion (last seen in Paint Your Wagon)

    1. Spiracle

      Re: Sequel

      Is it a sequel to Primer?

      1. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

        Re: Sequel

        No, Primer is the prequel.

        I hear there are talks of a remake, creating a new, different timeline. With lots of lensflare.

    2. druck Silver badge

      Re: Sequel

      For the sequel they should supply it on digital media set up to loop indefinitely. It would be interesting to see how long the BBFC would sit watching it after the declared running time was up. They wouldn't be able to charge extra though, as they could never finish the job.

  25. beirtipol

    I really hope he snuck random frames of face-sitting in to it to see if they actually watched all of it.

    1. JetSetJim

      Considering it was rated "U", I doubt it did have them (or doubt they were spotted)

      1. Francis Boyle Silver badge

        Rated "U"

        you mean 'U' for 'unwatchable'? Sarcastic bastard the BBFC.

  26. Winkypop Silver badge

    Extended Director's Cut Edition

    Easter eggs and the "Making of" featurette plus commentary track.

    No doubt, soon to be on Torrent as a screener.

    Icon --> whited out

    1. dotdavid

      Re: Extended Director's Cut Edition

      Wouldn't a Director's Cut need to be resubmitted to the BBFC?

      1. Lester Haines (Written by Reg staff) Gold badge

        Re: Re: Extended Director's Cut Edition

        I sincerely hope so.

  27. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I preferred "Watching grass grow"

    It had a positive environmental message I thought.

  28. Bottle_Cap

    If only I could have sat through this action-fest and not twilight....

    1. Preston Munchensonton
      Paris Hilton

      Yes, but there's no chance that you're getting laid for watching Paint Drying with your girlfriend.

  29. drand

    Never mind cinematic release

    I reckon this is good enough for the Turner prize.

  30. Sgt_Oddball

    I'm fairly sure....

    There's a number of modern art gallery's that would be more than happy to show this in the full uncut version.

    That said, projecting this onto a white painted wall might cause some issue and confusion.

    1. TeeCee Gold badge

      Re: I'm fairly sure....

      A three month special exhibition in the Turbine Hall at Tate Modern and a Turner Prize in that order.

      I hear that Ladbrokes have already stopped taking bets.

    2. Francis Boyle Silver badge

      Re: I'm fairly sure....

      Well if they projected it on the white wall they used for the filming. . .

  31. The Vociferous Time Waster


    Would only go to see it if I was plastered

  32. Chris G

    A Half Bond Movie

    But it held together well, extremely well shot, I hope it gets the coverage it deserves.

    1. TRT Silver badge

      Re: A Half Bond Movie

      The name's Bond. English Garden Wall Bond.

      1. x 7

        Re: A Half Bond Movie

        "The name's Bond. English Garden Wall Bond.2

        If you want the film to be really boring, surely that should be "Flemish Bond?

        Have you ever met an interesting Belgian?

        1. James O'Shea

          Re: A Half Bond Movie

          "Have you ever met an interesting Belgian?"

          Hercule Poirot.

          1. x 7

            Re: A Half Bond Movie

            ""Have you ever met an interesting Belgian?"

            "Hercule Poirot.""

            you make my point for me............definitely not interesting

  33. ToadOfToadHall

    Wait a minute...

    Are we sure "Charlie Lyne" is a real name...??

    Admittedly the wrong kind of drug for sitting through a long, boring movie, but still...

  34. sjsmoto

    Bah, it's nothing like the book.

    1. TeeCee Gold badge

      Can you get that from Audible?

  35. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Desperate Times

    ITV are converting it into a 6 part mini-series to show next winter.

    No joke icon - just in case they read this and think it is a good idea.

    After all, it cant be worse than BB or IACGMOOH.

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  37. Kristian Walsh Silver badge


    There's a story that Andrei Tarkovsky's 1971 film "Solaris" contains a seemingly interminable scene of a trip through city traffic in purely to bore the Soviet censor into turning it off and signing the approval.

    (The scene in question was filmed on Tokyo's urban motorways, and the more plausible reason for it is that including so much of this Japanese footage in the final film was to justify the great expense incurred by Tarkovsky and company to travel to Japan to shoot it. Thanks to Soviet efficiency, they had missed the World Fair, which was to have provided the original "future cityscape" imagery for this part of the film.)

  38. Bigpatc

    Star Wars tie in...

    TaunTuan in a Blizzard. It will make mellions..

  39. Bigpatc

    Waiting for the R18 version...

    50 Shades of Gray, Drying...

  40. Midnight

    "I don't like what you are doing. In fact, I am so angry about it, I'm going to give you six thousand pounds! You'd better hope I don't get more angry, or I will have to give you more money."

  41. TRT Silver badge

    I'm waiting for the prequel...

    10 hours of watching someone pointing.

    1. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

      Re: I'm waiting for the prequel...

      Duh, the prequel is called Primer, try to keep up, mate!

      1. TRT Silver badge

        Re: I'm waiting for the prequel...

        The prequel is a trilogy...

        1. Stoneshop

          Re: I'm waiting for the prequel...

          The first part of the trilogy being The Riddle of the Sanding

          1. TRT Silver badge

            Re: I'm waiting for the prequel...

            There's a post-sequel trilogy as well. The final part is a futuristic sci-fi where the white paint finally dies a death by being at the business end of a Tyrolean Flicker Gun.

            Or has it???!!!

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  42. Harry Stottle

    Spoiler Alert

    in the end, the paint dries...

    1. Graham Marsden

      Re: Spoiler Alert

      Oh great! Ruin the suspense for us all, won't you?

      What on earth is the point of watching it now...???

  43. Robert Moore

    Oscar worthy

    Best screenplay obviously. :)

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Oscar worthy

      Best supporting wall

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Oscar worthy

      Better character development then most of the recent movies I've seen.

  44. Lamont Cranston

    Yes, clearly the BBFC fees are prohibitively expensive.

    Or rather, bored people have money to burn.

    1. Graham Marsden

      @Lamont Cranston - Re: Yes, clearly the BBFC fees are prohibitively expensive.

      Way to totally miss the point.

      There are people out there who want to produce films for niche markets, often in the adult fetish genres, but the cost of getting BBFC classification is so expensive and the market sufficiently small that it would be impossible to make a profit on these films.

      Consequently you get the ridiculous situation of these films being available everywhere, *except* in the UK because of the "protection racket" that says "either you get BBFC classification or we prosecute you for selling uncertificated material".

      But don't worry, they're thinking of the children by protecting them from buying this filth...

      1. Lamont Cranston

        Re: @Lamont Cranston - Yes, clearly the BBFC fees are prohibitively expensive.

        Is that what this is about? 'Cos it looks more like an effort to piss money up the wall.

        Seriously, though, if this is about films being refused classification on the grounds that they're "obscene", then that's a legitimate grievance, although it's the government that determines what is obscene, not the BBFC.

  45. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    No material likely to offend or harm

    If the picture is a clip from the film then it's the lack of material that is likely to offend. There isn't any cultural diversity only a white wall. The wall looks decidely sad so no gay wall, Ian Mckellen will have to wait anohter year for an openly gay wall to be awarded an oscar. And don't get started on the lack of opportunity for dwarf walls.

  46. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    All Amateurs!! Its obviously a 10 hour ad!

    Hello! Its so obvious its a product placement by a paint manufacturer! They are brainwashing you to buy their paint the next time you paint your wall.

    I am sure if you pause it at the right frame, you will see the logo of the culprit!

  47. x 7

    Is the sounds track an extended version of John Cage's 4'33"?

    1. Number6

      I was wondering if they'd use Pink Floyd, but that might have made it too exciting.

  48. Oengus

    Now lets look at other countries...

    We need to get the kickstarter going again to raise money to get it classified in other countries.

    The category of the film "Film - Public Exhibition" or "Film - Other" determines the cost. The film maker is going to have to try harder to reach the "Time limit" in Australia. They have a sliding scale for up to 2000 minutes if it is "Film - Other".

    Beer because I think I would need quite a few to get through this.

  49. enormous c word

    Is this all live action footage. I mean, I can appreciate the realism of in-camera effects, but I am worried that this will just be another CGI-fest.

  50. an-ominous-mass

    Photo mosaic

    Seems to me the maker has a "dry" sense of humour.

    Anyone that follows through on a method to needle bureaucracy will always get my up vote.

    The upcoming sequel I believe will be called "The Second Coat" while the 3rd and 4th releases are as yet unnamed.

    ...Spoiler alert...

    The last of the series will be called "The Final Coat"

    Our protagonist will be constructing each frame as composite of photo mosaic images.

    After watching this British Censors are expected to receive a BAFTA/Oscar for best censorship in a useless catagory.

    Side stage medics will be on hand to ensure their continued lack of a pulse...

  51. Shonko Kid
    Thumb Up

    Get Disney on the phone...

    I want to pitch an all encompassing Paint Drying Cinematic Universe

  52. wsm

    I'm in trouble

    I made a pirate version last weekend.

  53. TechicallyConfused

    Is this....

    The 50 Shades of Grey Sequel?

  54. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I've watched it

    It started well but the plot evaporated at the end.

  55. Gambler

    Golden Globe Award

    It will sweep the golden globes in all categories and become known as kubricesk masterpiece.

  56. TeacherMARK

    No black bricks, yellow bricks or misshapen bricks? I'm so offended. But I'll be buying the DVD for the alternative audio with the director and crew explain what's going on.

  57. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    From the BBFC listing:

    Note: The following text may contain spoilers

  58. Potemkine Silver badge

    Pure genious

    Can't wait for parts 2 and 3. Such a brilliant idea deserves a trilogy.

    1. IanTP

      Re: Pure genious

      Hey, I see no reason why not. Peter Jackson got 3 films out of The Hobbit, has to be at least a quadrilogy out of this one :)

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