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A bunch of US government departments and agencies – from the military to NASA – are being grilled over their use of backdoored Juniper firewalls. The House of Representatives' Committee on Oversight and Government Reform fired off letters to top officials over the weekend, demanding to know if any of the dodgy NetScreen …

  1. a_yank_lurker Silver badge

    Ferals spying on ferals

    The question is who is behind the hack. The most likely culprit is one of the feral spookhauses.

    "might give some federal IT workers a heart attack' - would anyone notice?

    1. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

      Re: Ferals spying on ferals

      What "hack"? Crappy gear, from the get go. The IT equivalent of the Ford Pinto.

    2. streaky

      Re: Ferals spying on ferals

      Most likely candidate seems to be GCHQ at the behest of the NSA but given the NSA own Cisco it is fair to assume it's the NSA.

      The thing about back-dooring things and not telling anybody is people buy the gear, if the US govt has been pwned because of it they've only added to the hilarity.

  2. G2
    Facepalm

    eat your own dogfood

    they are the ones trying to push legislation and international treaties to make these backdoors mandatory and when they actually discover that they themselves were already using them for years they are upset about having backdoors?

    Talk about not wanting to eat your own dogfood...but you keep feeding it to others.

    The left hand seems not to know what the right hand is doing.. and in this case the left hand was snatching some food out of the pile dished out by the right hand.

    /facepalm

    1. Anonymous Blowhard

      Re: eat your own dogfood

      Clearly you don't understand; back doors on US Government systems are terrible security holes, and the product of Islamic Fundamentalism and/or communists, like the EU.

      Back doors put in by the US Government are for legitimate law enforcement, like the FBI, DEA, NSA, CIA, ATF, State Police, City Police, Sheriff's Department, Dog Catcher etc. There's no chance that the back door mechanism will ever be exposed for use by harckerz or other unwanted ne'er-do-wells (see previous list).

      Remember: Our back doors = Good, other back doors = Bad. And there's a law that says the bad guys (if we can ever define these clearly) won't use the good back doors (I'm sure they promised not to, and didn't cross their fingers when they did so) so no problem.

      1. G2

        Re: eat your own dogfood

        what is the difference between "Our back doors" and "other back doors" from a binary or boolean point of view? They both evaluate to "1"/authorized="TRUE" imho.

        1. Anonymous Blowhard

          Re: eat your own dogfood

          "what is the difference between "Our back doors" and "other back doors" from a binary or boolean point of view?"

          Clearly you're using "logic" (a perverted relative of "science") to misrepresent "True Knowledge" (as defined by the Family Union for Correct Knowledge and the Youth Organisation for Understanding).

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: eat your own dogfood

        Just wait till we get european islamic communists, you think it's bad now.

        1. Trevor_Pott Gold badge

          Re: eat your own dogfood

          "Just wait till we get european islamic communists"

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan_Workers%27_Party

          Close enough.

      3. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        Re: eat your own dogfood

        "Clearly you don't understand"

        I think it's a sign that legislators are starting to understand. It might take some time before they get their heads round it but it's progress.

  3. noj

    Grilling government officials by government officials is nice. But if Comey and others can lie to Congress without penalty then this probe is nothing more than a show.

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