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Blighty's universities have teamed up to today unveil a £28m "Internet of Things" research hub in a bid to make the UK a "world leader" in the much-hyped technology. The Hub is a consortium of nine universities and 47 partners from industry and the public sector. Funding for the Hub includes a £9.8m grant from the Engineering …

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    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Not me. I dodged the bullet and got an Amiga 500 instead.

    2. Rich 11 Silver badge

      Who hasn't got something made by Amstrad in their home?

      I have an alarm clock which tells somebody else's time.

      1. VinceH
        Devil

        "I have an alarm clock which tells somebody else's time."

        Is this the future of Internet of Usless Things alarm clocks, or are you simply saying you have an Amstrad alarm clock and it's broken?

  2. Warm Braw

    They'll connect the hub to the smart beer fridge...

    ... when the intrinsic lack of security has enabled them to circumvent the DRM.

    At which point it'll be time to move on to the next fad. Pausing only to consume the beer, of course, assuming a hacker hasn't already messed with the temperature settings.

    1. John70
      Joke

      Re: They'll connect the hub to the smart beer fridge...

      ...or ordered the non-alcoholic beverages...

      1. BongoJoe

        Re: They'll connect the hub to the smart beer fridge...

        I would hope that they connect the mains consumer unit to the fridge for if anyone ever tries to kill off my beer by putting it in the fridge then they need a good jolt of 230v.

        1. edge_e
          Holmes

          Re: They'll connect the hub to the smart beer fridge...

          Any truly smart appliance will take one look at the internet and refuse to connect to it.

          1. Dippywood

            Re: They'll connect the hub to the smart beer fridge...

            Perhaps it's a fridge for smart beer...

            I would assume that smart beer would contain a "chemical fingerprint" (a la smart water) that would only be apparent once the beer rental period was complete. A quick flash of UV light on the walls and pavements near pubs would show the "audit trails" and allow the problem to be traced back to source.

            Now, combining this with the "quick jolt of 230V" mentioned elsewhere and you have a self-correcting and auditable scheme for tackling this particular anti-social habit. But I digress...

  3. wabbit347

    HTTP/1.1 418 I'm a teapot

    RFC 2324 springs to mind for some reason.

    https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2324.txt

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Coat

    No Standards

    IoT is all hype and marketing BS.

    Wake me up when they finally decide on protocols and connector standards.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: No Standards

      DSP (Data slurping protocol), and DSPS (Data slurping over SSL)

    2. IglooDude

      Re: No Standards

      For what definition of "IoT"? If it's the bit formerly known as M2M, you're probably interacting or brushing elbows with it on a daily basis already - parking meters, ATMs, vehicle tracking, security cameras, etc etc etc.

      1. Chika

        Re: No Standards

        IoT: abbrev. Implement of Tat.

    3. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: No Standards

      "Wake me up when they finally decide on protocols and connector standards."

      Wake up!

      They've decided: use all of them and anything else that can be dreamt up.

  5. x 7

    "a consortium of nine universities"

    so the other couple of hundred (or whatever the number is) of UK unis regarded it as a waste of time and money.....

    FWIW the press release is here

    https://www.epsrc.ac.uk/newsevents/news/iotresearchhub/

    sounds like a load of BS to me

    1. ToddR

      It looks like a list of the best Universities in Europe excepting Cambridge to me.

      The UK should be mighty proud, rather than whingeing on about Amstrad and fridges

  6. Christian Berger

    It's to early to provide solutions... provide canvases instead

    I mean look at 1980s home computers. Those weren't "pre buildt" machines. They were computers which, when you connected them and turned them on, provided you with a (more or less) blank screen you could program on. You could just start typing, and program them. You could even just enter a single line of program into them and they would just execute it. All thanks to the magic of BASIC.

    The company making that computer did not tell you what to do with it, at best it gave you suggestions. That's why you suddenly had a Cambrian explosion of uses for computers. While before that your computer would be used to hunt down oppositional forces or organizing a funeral, you could now do lots of different things. You could hook up a robot arm to it so it would drop an egg onto your breakfast table or simply play a computer game.

    This is what's missing in the IoT world today.

    1. Chika
      Flame

      Re: It's to early to provide solutions... provide canvases instead

      Yeah, but there's your point. This is an era that spends too much time inventing silly names and descriptions for re-inventions from the past tarted up and hogtied so that they can fleece the flock.

      Raspberry Pi is a good idea. It encourages people to learn and invent.

      IoT is not a good idea. It's merely a label used by certain people so they can look "kewl".

      I dare say that some folk will now point me at copious white papers on where I am supposedly wrong with that statement but (a) that assumes that I haven't already read them (or at least some of them) and (b) doesn't dodge that one thing.

  7. Mark 85

    The consortium will work together over the next three years to explore critical issues in privacy, ethics, trust, reliability, acceptability, and security,

    So it's unis... some government money.. and some industry types and their money... right?

    Being a committee, it'll be sometime around the heat death of the universe before they agree and then there's the issues.. I don't see any that this or any other IT related industry would have an interest in. Unless it's "none". The goal of profit overrides any of that.

    1. Graham Cobb Silver badge

      I wish they would add "social policies" to their list of critical issues. I am all for creating technical standards, and certainly in favour of sorting out privacy and security, but I think a really important issue about IoT is to get it out of the hands of major corporations and into the hands of open-source developers, community projects, peer-to-peer services and garage-based entrepreneurs.

      That would help with many of the issues such as privacy and ethics and would really allow British innovation to flourish. The UK has nothing to gain by buying into the perverse definition of IoT as something done by big cloud providers: Google, Amazon, Samsung, LG, etc are not British companies.

      I would quite like an intelligent thermostat. However, I have no interest in buying one which sends any data outside my home, nor in paying for it as a service or with advertising. Sell me a box to replace the box which is my current thermostat, but which I can configure to receive weather forecasts and can control remotely. That is the sort of IoT which would be worth paying for.

  8. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

    IoTUK, a £40m, three-year, government programme

    So, 10 times the expected cost, 5 years late and nothing will work, least of all interoperate.

    1. BlartVersenwaldIII
      Go

      Re: IoTUK, a £40m, three-year, government programme

      > 10 times the expected cost, 5 years late and nothing will work, least of all interoperate

      Isn't the same thing true for every IoT programme at the moment?

  9. Commswonk
    Devil

    Oh no not him again...

    Ed Vaizey, digital economy minister, said the project is part of the government's ambition to make the UK a "world leader in the adoption of Internet of Things technologies".

    I would far rather that the UK was recognised as the place where it was determined that other in a very few specialised cases the IoT was a waste of time and money, and that the tale of "The Emporer's New Clothes" has a clear modern parallel.

    The universities involved could finish up being tainted with the accusation that they conspired to foist a whole load of vulnerabilities on to a public that is not equipped to realise that it is being comprehensively conned. Or simply gullible, depending on how cynical you want to be.

  10. Tom 7

    The smart beer fridge was invented two thousand years ago or more

    its called a barrel. If you put beer in a fridge its to stop it tasting.

  11. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

    Dear Lord, no. Britain used to be good at innovative, useful tech once...

  12. Maldax

    OOOO How excitling

    Even more coke machines you can telnet onto!!!

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