back to article Merseyside DDoS daddy given eight months behind bars

A UK man has been given eight and a half months in prison for launching a series of distributed denial-of-service attacks in 2013. The Liverpool court gave Ian Sullivan the 34-week sentence for conducting more than 300 denial of service attacks on various government, political and financial sites in 2013. Sullivan admitted to …

  1. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

    "It’s extraordinary how many people believe that participating in or indeed actually co-ordinating a denial-of-service attack can be done across the internet with no risk of the authorities determining your identity," he wrote.

    So who's been DDoSsing ProtonMail then?

    1. Anonymous Coward

      Someone with no twitter account?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        No twitter account?

        A fine upstanding person then. Oh and is also the majority of the worlds population.

    2. Mark 85 Silver badge

      Anon E. Mouse.

      1. A Non e-mouse Silver badge

        Not guilty your honour!

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Either a state-level actor, or possibility ebaumsworld.

      1. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

        "... or possibility ebaumsworld."

        No, probably not. I'm with theodore on this one (see above). eBaum's World does have a Twitter account.

    4. jonathanb Silver badge

      "So who's been DDoSsing ProtonMail then?"

      Possibly someone who has a couple of braincells between their ears. It is possible to cover your tracks, but you do need to think about what you are doing.

  2. Matt Bryant Silver badge

    Modern take on an old saying.

    A fool(ish Anon) and his freedom are soon parted.

    1. Bleu

      Re: Modern take on an old saying.

      Well said, Matt, but I think eight months is excessive, *unless* he was 'wrangling' (US English expression I like) a bot net, he would not have achieved much. Others have served less time for more.

      I have never participated in an 'Anonymous' campaign, but did go to Scientology's HQ here to watch 'Chanology'. Used to have 'net friends involved in the early days.

      Lots of cops, *very* few protestors.

      IIRC, I went into the building and had a brief chat about e-meters and Hubbard's good short fiction, of course, they tried to recruit me for a 'course'.

      The demographic of 'anonymous' was mainly self-righteous teens and twenties, with a smattering of angry older men.

      Reporters, always remember that it is not a monothilic org., they *did* have leaders, whoever was seen as the coolest or best troll on 4-chan boards, particularly /b, but I think those days are long gone.

      1. Danny 2 Silver badge

        Re: Modern take on an old saying.

        When I first noticed the Anonymous protesters against Scientology, I congratulated them on their target and their V For Vendetta masks. I told them Alan Moore would be proud of them once he heard, as indeed he was.

        Their response was deflating. "Alan Who? V for what? They're just cheap Guy Fawkes masks, they seemed appropriate".

        And when they recommended the LOIC to all their supporters, and had to be told explicitly that it identified their IP address and there were better tools available, I realised they were all slick video, no actual threat. Actual script-kiddies at least can cut and paste scripts.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Modern take on an old saying.

          Posting anonymously - hurr hurr - but while the 98% script kiddie thing is right, I was involved in the early days of the Chanology movement, in one of the IRC channels where the protest ideas came about, I was one of a few pushing for a UK version in a city I won't mention.

          Now, I'm giving you this background to say - back then, the hacking thing was low key to the point of being secondary. It was script kiddies.

          Now, it's script kiddies, but there is the odd, very good white hat hacker here or there. Of course, that level of experience is not going to get caught like this bloke.

        2. Bleu

          Re: Modern take on an old saying.

          You mistake troll for hacker.

          Still, I see reports that big arseholes in Syria and Iraq now use the PS4 net to communicate.

          True or disinfo., I know not.

          I do not disbelieve the claims of having shut hundreds of recruitment and propaganda for murder accounts on Twitter, some on Facebook. Great stuff.

          Then I see some self-appointed spokesman using his real name with journalists in the mainstream media, claiming to represent Anonymous. He should grow a brain and work out what the idea means, and be utterly rejected from now.

  3. Pascal Monett Silver badge

    If I read the article correctly

    They didn't actually find the guy who coordinated the DDOS attacks. They investigated a guy who was stupid enough to shout on the rooftops that he was coordinating the attacks, and found him to be guilty.

    So, if he'd shut up about it, what's the chance he would have been found ?

    That's what I wonder.

    1. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

      Re: If I read the article correctly

      That reminds me of something I once read in a book by Janwillem van de Wetering. (Good crime/mystery books, well worth a read IMO. Also a guy with an unusual CV.)

      (Paraphrasing from memory here), he said that police work is more often than not along the lines of 'cow catches hare':

      A hare ran across a pasture and, for whatever reason, collided with a fence post. Badly concussed it managed to stagger along for a few paces, collided with the legs of a cow and passed out. The cow looked down to see what was the matter, and saw the hare lying between it's hoofes. So the cow mused aloud "Well, look at that - I caught a hare!" All the other cows were deeply impressed.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: If I read the article correctly

      That's the trouble with scousers, they never know when to shut up.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: If I read the article correctly

        And good on them too, Hillsborough would have be swept under the carpet if they did not shut up. Nothing wrong with shouting from the rooftop for deserving causes, but mouthing off about your own illegal acts are more typical of morons than a specific stereotyped geographical group of people.

        I am hazarding a guess that you are within that moronic group within the U.K.

        1. LucreLout Silver badge

          Re: If I read the article correctly


          And good on them too, Hillsborough would have be swept under the carpet if they did not shut up.

          Indeed, very good work JFT96 et-al. I'd genuinely believed too much time had passed to ever get to the truth, and I was very wrong about that.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: If I read the article correctly

            Who the flip downvoted THAT? Murdoch? Who WANTED Hillsborough covered up except the guilty? Be ashamed, downvoter - and downvote me if you want to confirm to the world you are an arse.

            1. Bleu

              Re: If I read the article correctly

              You get an instant down from me, since your challenge demonstrates a total lack of consciousness.

        2. Pookietoo

          Re: if they did not shut up

          Actually you mean "if they did shut up".

  4. Little Mouse

    Re: "They investigated a guy who was stupid..."

    A current televisual favourite of my spawn are those "Police Interceptor"-style reality Cop shows. I'd like to think they're learning a life-lesson about Right & Wrong, but the reality is more depressing:

    The only thing it really teaches them is that if you want to be any good at being a criminal, you need to put a bit of effort and planning into it, just like with anything else.

    1. Bleu

      Re: "They investigated a guy who was stupid..."

      For Little Mouse.

      If yr. spawn love modern police procedurals, I recommend you try 'Space Precinct' on them, much the same flavour as 2000 AD side stories, loved every episode I saw. Not too many were made, aim was the USA market, it was cancelled by, I think NBC, and zero support from Brit broadcasters. Great show.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    eight months

    its eight months alright but mostly for being stupid.

    It makes you wonder how many people being bad, are discreet & save it up for good reasons.

    I certainly see too much phishing and packet floods on sensors for anything but the low hanging fruit being even investigated let alone charged.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The 51 year old father of six

    look kids, THIS is how you do it! :(

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: The 51 year old father of six

      Perhaps he WANTED to get a spell in jail to get away from the kids!

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