back to article Obama: Let me spam 600,000 of your customers with a TPP sales pitch. eBay: Sure thing, Barry!

President Obama is taking his case for the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) online with a spammy pitch to eBay merchants on how the trade deal will benefit them. The US Commander In Chief sent a letter to 600,000 eBay sellers outlining the virtues of the controversial international trade deal that, according to Obama, will make …

  1. Anonymous Coward
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    Hmmm. I'm sure the Chinese will be thrilled about this. According to this site: http://www.webretailer.com/lean-commerce/worlds-top-ebay-sellers/ (from 2014 data. i'm not vouching for their methods)

    Cross-border trade make up a significant portion of eBay sales. and China dominates that trade. and China is not a Party to the agreement.

    Maybe they'll all hit reply, thank him for his valid email address, and add him to their 'we can contact you forever' list.

  2. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

    "VP of geographic expansion"

    Do you have an impressive track record of playing Risk as a kid, or how does one qualify?

  3. John Tserkezis

    Will US vendors now magically be able to send stupid Australians such as myself, the South Park box sets? No? Then I don't care for your bullshit transvestite partnership crap.

    But "no" I hear you say, "it isn't logistics, its licencing".

    I still don't care.

  4. asdf

    Obama the socialist, hahaha good one

    see title

    1. Uncle Slacky Silver badge
      Holmes

      Re: Obama the socialist, hahaha good one

      I'm guessing Mr or Ms Downvoter is American, judging by their apparent lack of knowledge of what a socialist is.

      1. Mpeler
        Mushroom

        Re: Obama the socialist, hahaha good one

        Actually he's more of a Marxist. As far as "social", he's anti-social - he hates everyone but himself, a true narcissist - it's "all about him".

        And watch out, Europe, TiPP will be more of the same, pointed in your direction.

        Not "Free Trade", rather, "Fee Trade". All your "rights" belong to us...

        1. asdf

          Re: Obama the socialist, hahaha good one

          Yeah because Marxist always are into allowing favorable trade deals almost exclusively benefiting non state corporations owned mostly by the %1 at the expensive of the general public huh? Idiot. As for narcissism can pretty much assume that for any modern POTUS under the way the system works these days.

  5. Oengus
    Big Brother

    "eBay, for its part, has been a steadfast proponent of the TPP. "

    A US company supporting a US written policy (probably written by US big business) specificially to protect and enhance the "rights" of US based big business and US based big media (and US politicial contributors) to force US laws on other independent countries.

    Now there's a surprise. </sarcasm>

  6. a_yank_lurker Silver badge

    Clueless

    Markets tend to be regional for many reasons and most smallish businesses do not have the skills to be outside of their markets. I doubt the Clueless Wonder has ever priced international shipping rates, duties, and delivery. One can sell from the US to anywhere in the world, theoretically, but practically it's a bit more problematic for physical goods.

    In the US, Amazon does 1 or 2 shipping to me (Atlanta) from Lexington, Kentucky. Lexington is about 6 hours from me by car. So shipping an individual package via USPS, UPS, or FED EX is practical and reasonable to someone in the Atlanta area. It may go by truck (lorry) or by air. Now to ship to Asia one has to factor in either a ~12+ hour flight or being on the water for ~6 weeks. I think anyone in Asia is going to purchase from a local operation just for the convenience of a reasonable delivery.

    Shipping rates are based on distance, weight/size, and general aggravation. Distance is obvious, more fuel and time is needed to go a far away place than one near by. Weight/size has to do with the vehicle has a both a maximum volume and weight it can handle before it is full. The general aggravation is individual retail packages require excellent carrier logistics to get to the correct customer and this costs money for the infrastructure to track the packages.

    Duties can range from minimal to horrendous depending on the goods and the rate is based on the invoice value of the shipment. But would need to check local laws of every country one is shipping to and applicable trade agreements between the countries involved. If one gets the idea that this can be a nasty thicket, you are correct. I have done imports from Germany to the US and have some idea of the nastiness involved.

    The net effect of all these issues is make retail sales very regional and often country specific. Once an importer has the goods in the country at wholesale the retail channels can very efficiently distribute them.

    1. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

      Re: Clueless

      > t may go by truck (lorry) or by air. Now to ship to Asia one has to factor in either a ~12+ hour flight

      > or being on the water for ~6 weeks.

      Back in the dim and dark mists of time (pre amazon.co.uk) I used to buy paperbacks from amazon.com. I was happy to ship them by surface mail as I could cover the initial gap with locally-sourced (but more expensive) books. Thereafter, a box would arrive every six weeks or so.

      I did that up until .co.uk was made live. At which point .com would no longer ship to the UK but redirected me to the .co.uk despite the fact that their inventory was much, much smaller.

      So - in some things it can work.

    2. Missing Semicolon
      WTF?

      Re: Clueless

      Oddly, whilst wordwide shipping from most countries can be pricey, shipping from mainland China seems to be free.

      Unfortunately I can't read Mandarin Chinese, otherwise I could work out what the seller is actually paying for postage on the parcels I get.

      It just seems odd that I can buy an item, postage included, from China for less than the cost of postage on the same item sent next door in the UK.

    3. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      Re: Clueless

      "Shipping rates are based on distance, weight/size, and general aggravation."

      And subsidies. You forgot subsidies. I can buy stuff from China that's much cheaper, even after taxes and import duties, and the P&P is either free of negligible, often less P&P cost than buying from a local supplier.

  7. RedneckMother

    Dear BO...

    How do I hate the TPP? Let me count the ways...

    Why in the effing HELL would I support an agreement that was negotiated in secret, and written by corporations who want to screw everyone on this planet? Why (as a US citizen) would I support a treaty that subverts the US Constitution (BTW, I hear YOU are a "Constitutional scholar")?

    Get a damn GRIP! Let go of the effing MONEY, and do your damn job!

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Shadowrun TPP

    I'm OK with TPP, so long as I get to be the rigger.

  9. Mark 85 Silver badge
    Devil

    Can Obama be added to the ISP email blacklist?

    Seems that 600K emails ought to qualify.

    I wonder if he used BCC?

    1. Steven Roper

      Re: Can Obama be added to the ISP email blacklist?

      Even better, report it to Spamhaus.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    He also wrote about TPP on Financial Times and Bloomberg View

    http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-11-10/a-trade-deal-for-working-families

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2614c636-8930-11e5-90de-f44762bf9896.html

  11. therebel

    It doesn't actually mention email it states letter. I wonder of they did actually print 600000 letters and pay them out.

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