I thought the last option on the list was to continue pushing systemd on to an already suffering world so Linux users get the same sort of "WTF is this up to?" joy as svchost provides Windows users with?
Microsoft has announced a partnership with Red Hat to support Red Hat Linux in the Azure cloud. "While today’s news does not mark our first collaboration with Microsoft, it is by far our deepest," says Red Hat's Paul Cormier, Products and Technologies president. There are four parts to the partnership. First, Microsoft Azure …
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RedHat is on my list of purveyors to avoid, along with Suse ... and I guess 95% of the open source crowd will react the same.
RedHat just committed ritual suicide, ala Suse.
Don't believe me ? How much marketshare did Suse lose with their partnership with Redmond, 80 or 90% ?
>I hope Red Hat doesn't end up with a nice big knife in their back.
Why? 2 years ago I had a dozen RHEL appliances at SoftLayer - like many thousands of their customers (most I suspect given the migration options the DC put in place and promoted heavily) I dropped RedHat like a hot rock when they massively increased license costs overnight. Thought they'd be gone by now, can't imagine they'll still be here in another 2 years.
So MS is simply providing Red Hat Linux .Net support on Azure and you complain that you want to move your customers away from Red Hat?
If I was your customer and had need for such support I would move...to another IT provider who wasn't so frikking unnecessarily paranoid, alarmist or such a Linux Snob.
MS did not buy Red Hat, they did not absorb them, they simply announced that they would work together. Maybe that bodes well for the future of Azure. Newsflash, some customers have to cross the boundaries between various operating systems.
Your job as an IT Professional is to help the customer without being judgmental.
I have been using Mono and .NET for cross platform development for the past 10 years. Any news worthy of reporting about either platform means my deployments will be broken and I'll be back to downloading tarballs again.
This fall, we actually reached a point for once where you can install monodevelop on RHEL7/CentOS7 from the official yum repository, and it just works. The latest build of mono, even. Everything just works. So of course Microsoft has to do something--can't buy Xamarin,.. I know, why don't we push the "official" core over to the platform, deprecate Xamarin's repo, and break everything?
You know what happens when you assume? That's right, you look back on 10 years of experience and extrapolate. This isn't cynicism, this is experience.
Bet you a beer this will push us back to building our own RPMs again. There is never good news for CLR users on Linux.
well, I hope that containers make it so that devs start to focus on using Linux for scale out and cloud workloads. MS products are the things that you show your children and when they grow up they get to use big boy tools and drink beer, i.e. use Linux/UNIX/FreeBSD.
We are tired of the churn from Microsoft and the complexity.
Containers are one of the 1,000 cuts....
"I hope that containers make it"
Windows users have had similar technology for years thanks to App-V. Glad to see the Open Source world is finally catching up - and Docker are working with Microsoft on a unified container structure.
You still wont get features like install on demand and streaming with the Open Source containers though - you need App-V for that!
OK, so 2 companies have decided to work together to provide better supported services to their customers and so (hopefully) make more money.
"Oh Nooooooooeees! RH are in bed with the evil empire! I must waste my time and money migrating to something else because stuff."
Meanwhile, the adults can get on with business as usual.
This deal will, I think, not help RHEL as much as MS, and may bruise Linux fairly badly when it comes to cloudy offerings. Microsoft has worked superficially to make themselves appear friendly with Free Software, and this move may help them in this regard. The important thing to keep in mind is that at the deeper corporate level MS is still the same animal. It seeks control.
Is this good business? For Microsoft I think it is, but for Red Hat, if you're expecting great things then get ready for disappointment. Red Hat has moved their position from that of a competitor providing an alternative, to a partner providing assistance. I think they will be paraded around that light, and I think their customers may be obliquely portrayed as happy-campers now that they can use Azure. Let's see if that happens (I hope I am wrong).
As a strategic move by Microsoft I see how it benefits them, but I can't see any long-term sustainable gain for Red Hat. I can see one of two things happening with this deal;
1. Red Hat realizes what is going on and allows the deal to slowly fizzle out, thereby saving face.
2. They become Microsoft's lap dog
If I was Microsoft I would expect option #1, and not knowing how much time before the light comes on at Red Hat means I need to make as much marketing hay from this deal as possible.
Rule #1. Don't do business with Microsoft
Rule #2. See Rule #1.
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