back to article US trade watchdog to FBI: 'You think the crims won't know about the backdoor too?'

What a week it has been. We've seen dangerous dating sites, crazy gaming rigs and crooked Wikipedia mods. Now on to some of our favourite quips: FTC Commissioner Terrell McSweeny dropped a bit of common sense on the FBI's demands of backdoors for law enforcement. She explained her own (more rational) position thusly: Some …

  1. GrumpenKraut Silver badge

    MODERATOR, please kill this post...

    ... after reconsidering the ban on the user "Shadow Systems", see the comments with http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/04/nsa_explains_handling_zerodays/

    Let's just say he was tired and emotional, OK?

    ( I could not read his message, it was already purged).

    1. Ben Tasker Silver badge

      Re: MODERATOR, please kill this post...

      I doubt they will reconsider, but you get an upvote because I think it was probably an overreaction (though I never got to see the full message).

      I've had messages in the past from people who have hit upon issues on a page when using a screen-reader. Some of them have been very angry/frustrated, but it largely seems to be because a page not being accessible is such a common problem.

      1. GrumpenKraut Silver badge

        Re: MODERATOR, please kill this post...

        > ...because a page not being accessible is such a common problem.

        From what I heard from a blind coworker, a page not being accessible is close to the norm. Considering how mad I get with broken web pages, I marvel that these people are not on a constant rage.

        1. Ben Tasker Silver badge

          Re: MODERATOR, please kill this post...

          Presumably doubly-frustrating in the case of that article, given that the Reg is normally accessible. Or, at least, I assume it is because Shadow Systems was a regular commentard.

          Had a mail a while back from some guy who'd been searching for ages on how to fix an issue, and had found what might be the solution on one of my sites. Except he couldn't read it, because his screenreader didn't like a tag that iOS (at the time) insisted on, but had no apparent impact on other browsers.

    2. Solmyr ibn Wali Barad

      Re: MODERATOR, please kill this post...

      His posts are still up, so let's hope the best.

      forums.theregister.co.uk/user/7385/

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: MODERATOR, please kill this post...

        You can banned for a one-off rant now? Fuck me. Time to give up commentarding or -possibly- time to look up what politeness is and how it is achieved. Nah; definitely the former, I think.

        I was under the impression that you were allowed the occasional full-fat flame here on El Reg if you were generally helpful on occasion to make up for it. Plus everyone gets to take the piss for a couple of days; which is all jolly entertaining.

        I do hope that this just a commentard and a mod both having simultaneous bad days and it will all be sorted out in the morning (or possibly late afternoon). Hope it's not a policy shift towards political correctness; because fuck that with a soapy nun.

        1. GrumpenKraut Silver badge

          Re: MODERATOR, please kill this post...

          Neither of us seems to have seen the text before it was purged. As it might have been extreme(ly offending to the Reg) we should IMO not make any assumptions.

          In the end it's their house, their rules.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: MODERATOR, please kill this post...

            I didn't see it; but one post is pretty immaterial in the scheme of things. If it's constant like some other banned accounts then fair enough. That's not the case here though.

            1. GrumpenKraut Silver badge
              Pint

              Re: MODERATOR, please kill this post...

              In a part of the interwebs, far away from here, I work as an editor. I have to admit that there are things that make me suggest to ban an account. Personal threats is one of them (even if not directed towards me). Very strong (or persistent) insults can, at least on a bad/sad day, make me wish to kick somebody. We are all only humans.

              Ho-hum, beer o'clock.

        2. Solmyr ibn Wali Barad

          Re: MODERATOR, please kill this post...

          I believe I've stumbled upon some deleted accounts. In such cases, link to user's posts will not work (can't remember if it's 404 or some other message), but posts under articles are still there, albeit now anonymous. AFAIK only Eadon got all his posts deleted.

          Shadow Systems seems to be quite intact. Can't determine whether his login is blocked or not, until he makes another post.

          1. GrumpenKraut Silver badge

            Re: MODERATOR, please kill this post...

            > Shadow Systems seems to be quite intact.

            My (ahem, educated) guess is that disabling login will leave history and messages intact.

            The only case I am aware of a "removal from history" was the user 'Eadon'. Even though I somewhat regret the chainsaw purge, I can understand that his insane repetitiveness led to him to being nuked from the orbit Reg-wise. He was a thermonuclear god-awful PITA if there ever was one.

            1. Solmyr ibn Wali Barad

              Re: MODERATOR, please kill this post...

              "disabling login will leave history and messages intact"

              True. But the mod explicitly said "and does not have an account now" - well, that's not the case here, account is still defined, posts are readable, haven't gone anonymous.

              Maybe we'll hear something better next week.

              1. GrumpenKraut Silver badge
                Pint

                Re: MODERATOR, please kill this post...

                > "and does not have an account now"

                Let's assume that should have been "has his login disabled now".

                > Maybe we'll hear something better next week.

                I indeed hope so. Trying to bribe the mod with a beer ==------------------>

                1. Mark 85 Silver badge
                  Pint

                  Re: MODERATOR, please kill this post...

                  I'll add a second one in case the first one doesn't work.----------------------->

                  We might need a lot more than a couple of beers though.

            2. Tom 38 Silver badge

              Re: MODERATOR, please kill this post...

              I miss Eadon

              1. GrumpenKraut Silver badge
                Coat

                Re: MODERATOR, please kill this post...

                So do I, in some morbid way. Jacket with loooong sleeves ==----->

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: MODERATOR, please kill this post...

      I have reviewed this and have unbanned Shadow Systems.

      1. Mark 85 Silver badge
        Pint

        Re: MODERATOR, please kill this post...

        That's excellent news, Drew.

  2. NormDP

    And, why are we kidding ourselves? The Feds and crims are often one and the same people.

    1. Christoph

      In the eyes of other countries, certainly. Why would anyone outside the US want to use systems where the USA has an officially declared back door, over and above the ones they've hacked into?

  3. ecofeco Silver badge
    Holmes

    US Gov derp

    The US gov really doesn't understand how computers work at all, do they?

    Rhetorical question, of course.

    1. dajames Silver badge

      Re: US Gov derp

      The US gov really doesn't understand how computers work at all, do they?

      I think that's true of all governments -- and isn't surprising given how complex a subject "computers" has become.

      It's true of most users, too, and of rather too many of our professional colleagues.

      1. Sir Runcible Spoon

        Re: US Gov derp

        The real surprise is that they continue to legislate as if they *do* understand it though, all evidence to the contrary.

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