back to article Proxyham Wi-Fi relay SUPPRESSED. CONSPIRACY, yowl tinfoilers

Rhino Security has suddenly pulled the plug on its “ProxyHam” Wi-Fi relay project and withdrawn from the upcoming DefCon conference. The company's Bun Cuadill made the “announcement” in the way most likely to send conspiracists hyperventilating: a couple of Twitter messages that offered no explanation. Since the aim of …

  1. Spaceman Spiff

    As in using a Yagi antenna wouldn't be noticed? Gah! Yes, they are very useful as WiFi extenders, but not exactly "stealth" equipment.

    1. Alister

      Yeah, even a copper would probably guess that he can look where it's pointing...

      That gives him an even chance on tying down the origin of the signal to two directions, depending on whether he knows the radiating end from the reflector end...

    2. Charles Manning

      If you can intercept 2.4GHz, you can incercept 900MHz

      There is nothing magic about 900MHz that makes it harder to eavesdrop on.

      If anything 900 MHz is easier:

      1) It is all licensed band, so legitimate users will find you and dob you in before you can say "Pringles Can".

      2) You can be charged just for transmitting - no matter the content.

      3) The antenna needs to be 3x as big - way harder to hide and use.

  2. The First Dave

    If you look where this "stealth" antenna is pointing then you have quite literally got the wrong end of the stick.

    Oh, and -1 for "ideation"...

  3. Munin

    Even if the antenna weren't noticed, radio direction finding is, in fact, a thing - and at 900 MHz, it's a pretty easy thing. Frankly, I am only really disappointed the talk was pulled because I was planning to attend to ask the presenter some very pointed questions about why he thought putting wifi comms across a 900MHz backhaul was innovative or interesting at all - much less why he was fiddling about adding a raspberry pi to the mix.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Indeed, fox hunting is a very common past time of many radio HAMs.

      If they can do it at low bands like 6m, they can do it at 900MHz with ease. If enthusiasts can do it with home-built antennas and $100 hand-held radio receivers, imagine what the likes of the FCC/Ofcom/ACMA/… can do.

    2. Charles Manning

      "wifi comms across a 900MHz backhaul was innovative or interesting at all - much less why he was fiddling about adding a raspberry pi to the mix."

      It didn't have to make technical sense. It just needed enough buzzwords to bamboozle the invesduhs.

  4. x 7

    more likely they read the comments following last weeks El Reg article about this and realised they were wasting their time....

    enough problems there to make the project a non-starter

  5. Ammaross Danan


    Ubiquiti makes some decent kit. Shame their company name is misspelled in the article.

  6. Trevor_Pott Gold badge

    "Graham finds – and so does Vulture South – the idea that the FBI would hit the roof about simple and basic technology “implausible”."

    You're talking about an organization led by a cryptography denier. Sorry, but <i.any</i> level of stupidity is plausible for them.

    1. x 7

      "cryptography denier."

      Something to do with ultralightweight stockings? Ones that appear invisible?

      1. ScottAS2

        They're tights that allow Alice to reveal what's contained in them to Bob, while keeping Eve unaware.

  7. ops4096

    Meh .. ?

    Legal issues seem to have a mysterious tendency to evaporate in the presence of TLA's.Sounds like some wonk in some TLA thought that ProxyHam had a really good idea and that they simply had to have the technology for their own exclusive use. Would the pi be useful as a dedicated cryptographic or DSP scrambling engine? Your taxpayer dollars at work.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    It doesn't matter

    If you're a crim, sooner than later you'll be caught no matter what means you use to try and hide your identity and location. As the authorities like to say: "You have to be lucky every time. We only need to be lucky once". People who make bad choices end up at the Iron Bar Hotel for extended stays.

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