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The Mozilla Foundation has released Firefox the 39th. The best reason to adopt the new version is its repairs for three critical bugs. Detailed here, the flaws include memory corruption and “exploitable crashes.” A further two “high” severity flaws, half a dozen rated “moderate” and a single “low” severity bug have also been …

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  2. Steve Graham
    Facepalm

    Better games performance. Couldn't have put it better: that's exactly what I don't need in a browser.

    1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      I came here to exactly the same thing. It's a browser, not an OS.

      This sort of links over to the memputer story. There's nothing wrong with using different tools for different jobs and in most cases, multiple specialised tools are way better at their specific jobs than one huge multi-tool.

      1. The little voice inside my head

        Browsers became gateways to new experiences. They were once used only for sharing text, then one guy thought, why not be able to send email using it without an email client, then multimedia arrived, why not display pictures, music, video, then more convoluted stuff, sharing one's actions life with the everybody, all in one single program, a browser. Is it better to keep all these tools as separate entities? One for email, one for chat, another to watch videos from news websites, another for online banking (hm, this is one I'd prefer over a browser, but it also depends on many other factors, another thread perhaps) or is it more convenient to open inside the browser? Most people think yes. Most people also like online games, simple at start, but as with anything else, they evolve, people are demanding new nicer looking ways of entertainment. All connected via web, and since browsers are the main interface, it is just obvious new tech will be created for these increase of demands. The cloud is upon us, and most people don't care where the streams come from or if they are local, as long as it fulfills their needs. ChromeOS is betting on this, a browser being the OS.

      2. Anonymous Coward
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        Thigs move on

        I came here to exactly the same thing. It's a browser, not an OS.

        Browsers aren't supposed to be media players either but 100s of millions of people do that every day.

        Phone aren't supposed to do email.

        TVs aren't supposed to used for viewing Web sites.

        Etc, etc.

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  3. AMBxx Silver badge

    Are the FireFox Devs bored with browsers?

    Can we just have a browser please. It was crap like this was the death of Netscape - let's add email too - that'll really make it better!

  4. Puffin

    eBay?

    It appears unpossible to log in to eBay with FF39. A script on the login page locks up the browser solid every time. *slow clap*

    1. King Jack

      Re: eBay?

      It is possible to log into ebay, Something is wrong with your setup. Constant crashing on Youtube playback is what has driven me to opera for video watching. If Opera wasn't sh shit I would switch to it as my main browser. But give it time and FF with roll out the red carpet to encourage change.

      I don't understand companys that get big by giving the public what they want, suddenly changing tack and insisting on putting out crap that loses them market share. Roll on FF40...

    2. Dan 55 Silver badge
      Holmes

      Re: eBay?

      Is it because eBay are using weak DHE keys? Firefox dropped support for them because they're used in a vulnerability called Logjam.

      Go to about:config and set security.ssl3.dhe_rsa_aes_128_sha and security.ssl3.dhe_rsa_aes_256_sha to false to log in, if it's that.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: eBay?

        Thanks for that Dan - fixed an issue with two internal devices (Nimble Storage array and Good Management Console) that would not load without changing those two ciphers to false. Off to find updates for both those devices now...

        Guess the tls.version.min setting stopped working in 39.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        @Dan 55 - Re: eBay?

        I don't understand why would someone down-vote your post.

        I had the same kind of surprise when FF 38 locked me out of the admin GUI of my Linksys home router/firewall as soon as I checked the "use HTTPS" box. The settings you mention were simply not working and I had to download FF v6 in order to be able to get back using plain HTTP to administer my firewall. Thanks to the cleverness of Mozilla devs, I am now using no encryption at all instead of some vulnerable one. Of course I'll have to buy a new device but the radical measure taken by Firefox bothered me a lot.

        1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

          Re: @Dan 55 - eBay?

          Of course I'll have to buy a new device but the radical measure taken by Firefox bothered me a lot

          Yes. This is part and parcel of the "our threat model will be your threat model" cryptocracy. They're the same zealots waging the "HTTPS everywhere" war. The nanny state has come to the web.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    FFS FF

    Still locks up when opening Google maps. Noticed this a few weeks back after very many years without problem. Thought FF 39 might put this right - but have just had to alt-ctrl-del and restart FF to post this message.

    1. DJV Silver badge
      Unhappy

      Re: FFS FF

      I sympathise!

      I'm not currently having problems with Google Maps on Firefox so it's probably one of those "random things that break" when you upgrade and, unfortunately, will be peculiar to your own set up.

      A few months ago I had something similar. When zooming in on a Google Map, it would completely flip the entire map on it's head so that the map, all text and even any map markers were upside down (not rotated but mirrored, so even standing on my head to view it wouldn't have been worthwhile). Starting Firefox with add-ons disabled stopped it from happening but disabling the add-ons manually didn't! I couldn't find any reference to other people having the same problem so, in the end, I completely wiped and re-installed Firefox (after saving the passwords and bookmarks files, hoping they weren't the problem - they weren't).

      Now, I'm finding that when the latest version Chrome starts up it is refusing to show my home page (even though it is plainly set up properly in the settings). Oh well, another wipe and reinstall will probably cure it, sigh...

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: FFS FF

        I had that same Goggle Maps "flipping" problem! The solution for me was to do nothing. Something along the way fixed it and I haven't seen that in a while, but it sure was odd.

      2. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

        Re: FFS FF

        When zooming in on a Google Map, it would completely flip the entire map on it's head so that the map, all text and even any map markers were upside down (not rotated but mirrored, so even standing on my head to view it wouldn't have been worthwhile).

        Interesting. Sounds like a sign error in the rendering - inverting the sign of both dimensions in a 2D Cartesian coordinate system would give you this "flipped and mirrored" effect - possibly due to underflow.

        I've never looked at the source of a Google Maps page. Are they doing their own rendering using Canvas or some such? Just wondering if maybe this is a Google bug that only shows up under some ECMAScript implementations and particular conditions (e.g. resizing with a viewport of sufficient size).

  6. phil dude
    Pint

    soon...

    I am running beta (currently 40) and their roadmap says that per-process tabs is approaching (Electrolysis).

    This should at least remove the LCD crashing code, and might actually start to improve the performance.

    P.

  7. illiad

    have they removed australis yet???

    or put in something worse???

    if you wanna know, I have a simple fix to STOP it upgrading... :)

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: have they removed australis yet???

      Is it Pale Moon ?

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