back to article British Library publishes Digital Magna Carta – written-by-web-vote because it's 2015

It's the 800th anniversary of the Magna Carta: the document that King John was forced to sign by English barons in 1215, and which has served as the cornerstone for many of the world's judicial systems ever since. And to commemorate it, the British Library has published its crowdsourced version for the digital world. The …

  1. Dr Stephen Jones

    Your taxes at work

    About what you'd expect from asking 13 year olds. Most want free stuff and no homework. Predictably the British Library - which makes the BBC look efficient - is using it as a propaganda exercise.

    The fact it exists at all suggests that nice Mr Osborne hasn't really started to make cuts he needs to make.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Your taxes at work

      Contrary to what the article would lead you to believe, clauses on privacy were actually the largest single category the kids proposed. The problem is that there was no attempt to rationalise or merge similar proposals, so they ended up with multiple versions of people's main priority in the top ten.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Add this

    Make McDonald's sell you a breakfast after 10.30.

    1. TitterYeNot

      Re: Add this

      "Make McDonald's sell you a breakfast after 10.30"

      Is that you, 'D-Fens'?

      <Gulp> Yessir, rightawaysir, and it'll look just like it does in the photo honest sir, and if you'll just put the Uzi away sir...

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    That last famous clause - which was used two centuries later to create trial by jury


  4. John Lilburne

    Predictable but interesting

    Predictable in that that cacophony of special pleading by the tech industry is up there, but interesting to that #10 has


    not sell our personal information and preferences for money, and will make it clearer if the company/website intends to do so.


    that should send something of a chill through the boardrooms, that today's kids are waking up to their vile behaviour.

    1. Mike 137 Silver badge

      Re: Predictable but interesting - "today's kids are waking up"

      but still clearly incapable of maintaining a coherent train of thought or coping with basic grammar:

      "not sell our personal information and preferences for money, and will make it clearer if the company/website intends to do so."

  5. TWB

    Mr Tony Hancock

    Sadly whenever I hear 'Magna Carta' I always think of this first:-

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "Where it was signed"

    Think you'll find that King John never signed the Magna Carta ... it was sealed. Sad to see the Reg following the dumbing down history line that led to comemerative coins for the event showing him holding a quill.

  7. graeme leggett Silver badge

    Had a look at the site myself

    Interesting to see a lot of clauses along the line of protecting children from things they ought not see, and providing a safe environment.

    eg "give us a place where we can filter all inappropriate Websites. "

    "be free from inappropriate comments"

    "be safe and kind to everyone. We will be able to go online and not be afraid of unwanted people taking advantage of us. "

    Now possibly the being safe online sessions that children get these days in school may have led to those.

    Also found "allow surveillance of public activity, but respect personal information. "

  8. Graham Marsden

    "Only three of the 63 clauses still stand in law?"

    And Call-me-David Cameron is doing his utmost to get rid of even those ones.

    Equal access to justice? Not now the Tories have denied many people access to Legal Aid. Now it's "how much justice can you afford?" If you're wealthy, fine, if not, you're screwed. Worse than that, they want to outsource the system to their mates in G4S and the like (the same people who are likely to end up running the privatised prisons) so obviously there's no conflict of interest there!

    "No imprisonment without trial"? Well, unless you're an immigrant being held without any idea of if and when your case is going to be reviewed.

    And, of course, there's Cameron's plans to scrap the Human Rights Act and bring in their hypocritical "British Bill of Rights" which really means "British Bill of the Rights we say you can have, provided you're someone we like". The only reason that's been kicked into the long grass at the moment is that he knows he can't even convince a lot of his own party to support it, but like the Snoopers Charter, it won't go away, they'll just do it slowly, chipping away at a Right here, a Protection there, a Liberty somewhere else...

    Cameron, in his utterly hypocritical speech, said "We talk about the 'law of the land' and this is the very land where that law – and the rights that flow from it – took root". What he didn't say is that he's doing his utmost to uproot those laws and salt the earth so that those inconvenient rights don't get in the way of their control freak ways.

    Icon: Our Rights going up in flames...

  9. Alister

    To celebrate the 800th anniversary, the Queen has got on her gold boat and headed down the Thames to the meadow where it was signed, to be surrounded by 75 American Lawyers, accompanying the US Attorney General, for some strange reason.

    1. Anonymous Coward

      > to be surrounded by 75 American Lawyers, accompanying the US Attorney General, for some strange reason.

      Presumably because the American Bar Association paid for the memorial, British lawyers & barristers no doubt being too impoverished to contribute at the time.

    2. Jim Ettles 1

      Royal Navigation?

      Her Maj may have got closer to Runnymede by steering her boat UP the Thames. As wife of the Lord High Admiral she should be aware of this. But then again down the Thames is where most of London's garbage goes so with 75 American lawyers she may have been right.

  10. daldred

    "Only three of the 63 clauses still stand in law? The rest have been repealed. What stands is: freedom the English church;" - um, no. this is often repeated, but it's not true.

    Henry VIII overthrew the freedom of the English Church, and its elections (which are specifically mentioned in Magna Carta) are subject to Parliament.

  11. Robert D Bank

    TTIP will remove many of the remaining democratic rights that we hang on to. Magna Carta and even much of the EU law both good and bad will be usurped by it. That I suspect is why it wasn't mentioned by any of the major political parties at election time. Can't believe UKIP let that slide...EU laws will pale compared to TTIP.

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