back to article LG G4: Be careful while fingering this leather-clad smartie pants

Despite some lovely work, LG has been a perennial bridesmaid at the smartphone wedding. LG’s rival giant Samsung has walked off with the only profits being made in the Android business. But this year LG senses a chance to be the bride. LG G4 Android smartphone LG's G4 flagship smartie For 2015, Samsung has made its best …

  1. Dave 126 Silver badge

    >n Android land Sony reigns supreme for battery life. Largely because it's much more aggressive about turning down background tasks by default.

    Just to clarify: Sony's Stamina Mode is an option with a quick toggle. IIRC, exceptions on an app-by-app basis can be made, but I haven't played with that. I don't need to receive emails the minute they are sent - If I'm expecting something urgent I can toggle the Stamina Mode off. There is also an Ultra Stamina mode, which effectively restarts the phone with only a few core apps and 2G comms only - one for possible emergency use, whilst hill walking perhaps.

    I was impressed by the LG G2 - one of the first Snapdragon 800 phones - but was convinced by the decision to give the G3 an overkill screen at the expense of battery life.

  2. Shaun 2

    Nice LG advert...........

    I assume you added a synthetic benchmark to draw in the idiots - I wonder how many who care about the results will notice that you didn't include the S6 results..........

    1. Lamont Cranston

      Re: Nice LG advert...........

      It's certainly a gushing review, but the author does admit to preferring the S6.

    2. Dave 126 Silver badge

      Re: Nice LG advert...........

      Why assume? The results are clearly labelled "AnTuTu benchmark".

      If you read the article you would have read the author say: "Samsung's own chipset in the S6 wins out on those rare occasions you need raw speed".

      If you want a breakdown of the S6 performance and battery life under best efforts to level the playing field, you could do worse than look here:

      http://www.anandtech.com/show/9146/the-samsung-galaxy-s6-and-s6-edge-review/3

      Its got graphs and everything.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Nice LG advert...........

      "I assume you added a synthetic benchmark to draw in the idiots"

      Get thee behind me, fanboi!

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Nice LG advert...........

      And the small difference between Samsung and LG performance matters why, exactly? In what way does a faster phone benefit you, are you using it as a server or compiling code on it?

      Some will argue that more speed means entering low power mode faster, but the Samsung has more speed and worse battery life so if that was their goal they failed.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    After having a Nexus 4 since launch I bought an LG G4 after thinking hard about the SG6, the M9 and the Z4.

    I am really thrilled with the G4. The screen is amazing and the camera stunning. The author didn't mention one of the key points about it having a fully manual mode for shots - ISO, Shutter speed, EV, White Balance, 9 point auto focus or full semi-auto focus or complete manual focus. The opportunities for creating really high quality shots even in challenging conditions is great (combined with F1.8 Apeture!). The optical image stabiliser works superb and the slow mo video is good quality to.

    Also charging speed after having a nexus 4 was an eye opener even with the standard charger (haven't tried the quick charge 2 charger yet).

    I was anxious about the size after a Nexus 4 but it doesn't feel significantly bigger, in fact in many ways it feels smaller. I also like stock android and this doesn't dilute it too much - it's definitely plenty fast enough. Also compared to the Nexus 4 the GPS and compass are much more accurate - side by side in the car it was quicker to lock and remained much more stable. Even streaming radio on my journey in it didn't drop out once whereas the Nexus 4 had 3 blind spots on the same journey so the radios seem to be much better (LTE is non-existent around here so it wasn't for any lack of that on the Nexus).

    The lack of water resistance/water proofing is a shame as I use a phone a lot in difficult conditions so I'm looking for a suitable case and the lack of a fingerprint sensor is a small omission. However these are nice to haves.

    Another point that I hadn't seen mentioned, my G4 bought outright from an independent was a brown leather one but came in the standard pack with nice subtle gold back included as well and also came with some pretty reasonable headphones.

    I might have some 'purchase justification bias' but I generally don't get too excited by phones as I deal with lots of different ones at work, however so far I am not displeased with this.

    For a review from a real photographer see here: http://www.colbybrownphotography.com/gear-review-a-photographers-take-on-the-lg-g4/

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      A Review? Advertorial maybe....

      From the article linked: "Here are a short teaser video LG and I put together about some of my initial thoughts on the G4 to build up excitement for today’s product launch."

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: A Review? Advertorial maybe....

        At the end he writes this:

        "FULL DISCLOSURE

        While I partnered with LG to create both images and videos to help promote the global launch of the LG G4, they never asked me or payed me to write this review. These thoughts and opinions are mine and mine alone. Even if you think that I am biased because of our business arrangement, I have provided enough details and high resolution images for you to come to your own conclusions about this device."

        His site is an independent site and if you consider it biased it still has a lot of information about the actual facts about the camera and its abilities as well as sample shots to check out. However check out some other sites relating to the photography on this camera - it's better than any compact p&s camera I've had (apart from the lack of optical zoom lens) but I stopped buying compact cameras a few years ago...

        The G4 also shoots RAW if required which is useful.

        1. Christian Berger

          Re: A Review? Advertorial maybe....

          It doesn't matter if he was paid for this or not. It's still not an actual review. Or, to be more precise, all the review is in the teaser.

          So the relevant facts are:

          no removable battery

          no SD card slot

          which firmly puts this device into the "fashion" category of devices which look and feel nice, but are of no long lasting use.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: A Review? Advertorial maybe....

            Eh?

            It does have a removable battery and an SD card slot up to 2TB?

          2. Dabooka Silver badge

            Re: A Review? Advertorial maybe....

            @Christian Berger

            "So the relevant facts are:

            no removable battery

            no SD card slot"

            Sorry if I misread your comments, but are you on about the G4 still? From the review here;

            "Sensing the opportunity, LG has made its own flagship for 2015 much more "Galaxy-like". It retains the removable battery of last year’s G3 and is priced keenly off-contract. You can stuff in a Micro SD card up to 2TB"

            Or have I clusterfucked here?

          3. Dave K Silver badge
            WTF?

            Re: A Review? Advertorial maybe....

            Mr Palm, meet Mr Forehead...

            The removable battery and SD card slot are some of the main reasons why former Samsung users like myself are jumping to the G4. Unlike the Galaxy S6, this was designed for usability, not just for looking shiny.

    2. elaar

      I was given the LG for a company phone, and like you I don't get too excited about phones these days.

      I have to agree, the phone is very fast, has a superb camera, and the charging/battery life is the best I've ever had with a smartphone, it lasts 2 days with me (with a LOT of phone call usage).

      The phone is too big for my liking though (my fault of course), and the rear buttons do take a while to get used to.

  4. Ru'

    "Samsung has walked off with all the only profits being made... "

    Even if this phrase is not plain wrong, it sure is unsightly.

    1. STGM

      Only if all depends the reading you how of it.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    RTFM Mr Reviewer

    "I found having a Samsung S6 massively more convenient, not just because of the fingerprint unlocking but because of the venerable main button. Double-click that button and the camera is ready in a second or two. And while you can turn the G4 display on and off with a double knock, taking pictures always took much longer."

    Doh! RTFM next time i.e. Double tap the volume down button and it takes a picture in under 2 seconds from lock.

    1. Andrew Orlowski (Written by Reg staff)

      Re: RTFM Mr Reviewer

      I know.

      It's not as convenient. RFTA next time.

      1. jimborae

        Re: RTFM Mr Reviewer

        It's not what you wrote though, if that's what you meant you need to be clearer. And WTF is RFTA??? :)

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: RTFM Mr Reviewer

          "Really, fuck the article"?

  6. BigAndos

    I upgraded from my Galaxy S4 (which I liked but had rubbish build quality) to the LG G3 and really like it. The only real problem I have with it is occasional lag in the LG UI and an annoying problem where it occasionally just plain forgets your settings. If LG have indeed improved their UI software then the G4 may well be my next upgrade!

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Function Before Form

    I could care less how it looks. Until any high end smartphone can survive a few falls to the floor, down the stairs, etc., I am going to slap it in an Otter case.

    1. Dabooka Silver badge
      Go

      Re: Function Before Form

      That's fine, Otterbox away. It's fairly easy to add that element to a smartphone, but a lot less simple to remove it if it's built in.

      The problem I see it with 'survivable' phones is they can't just be droppable, the spec becomes huge (as has been mentioned on these boards before) with IP ratings etc. You end up with a huge great lump of indestructable mass which is a great product for those that need them, but they don't sell to consumers in any numbers and are easily outdone in performance terms by the mass produced ones too. They're a niche product.

      I know what you mean though, I typically clad my new shiney in something to help with knocks and scrapes (initially anyway).

    2. Dave K Silver badge

      Re: Function Before Form

      "I could care less how it looks."

      So you do care then?

  8. Jim 59

    Samsung made a mistake taking away the SD card and removable battery. Apple must have been delighted with the S6.

    My Galaxy S3 shows no sign of flagging. It is hard to foresee any reason to trade up in the next few years. Unless Samsung kill it with lack of support/updates.

    1. Dabooka Silver badge
      Thumb Up

      Good pal of mine agrees...

      He's stuck with his S3 for EXACTLY the reasons you mention. He just pops in a sim only deal and away he goes, he'll upgrade when it dies and not before.

  9. Ugotta B. Kiddingme

    sub head

    Removable battery, micro SD expansion? Walk this way...

    "If I could walk that way..."

  10. Inventor of the Marmite Laser

    The leather cow-hide clad one

    Does it play moovies and moosic?

    1. Fink-Nottle

      Re: The leather cow-hide clad one

      (Cow hide is hairy leather.)

      Not sure if that'd be a good look for a phone, but you'd certainly have loads of free hair time.

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    oh, by the way

    can you, like, use it as a phone too?

  12. CrosscutSaw

    Thin?

    How much does that matter nowadays? Most people take that thin phone and stick it in an otter box and it's the size of a paperback.

  13. Jonathan Richards 1 Silver badge

    Location -> settings

    > I found it impossible to tell the phone that it was in my home location. So the feature went untested.

    If anyone is interested in location-based settings for an Android phone, see whether Llama [play.google.com] fits the bill. It determines location based on cell tower IDs; you have to teach it which towers belong in which zones. The process of teaching location, and fixing the settings for different times and zones is a bit fiddly, but I've found the app to be quite efficient.

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    When are phone manufacturers going to realise that the choices we should be offered are far more fundamental than just the specs of the hardware? What about a choice of OS? I'd love to buy a Samsung device, so long as it doesn't have Android. I'm never buying an Android phone no matter how good the hardware is, just like I wouldn't put a nest of vipers down my pants.

    1. JustNiz

      I agree Android isn't perfect but its way better than Apple or Microsoft. What other choices are there?

  15. JustNiz

    >> Samsung has made its best phone in years

    No it hasn't.

    >> – the Galaxy S6 has a sealed battery and no expandable storage.

    Yeah thats exactly the reason why it isn't even close to its best phone. I'd much rather have my old S3 just because it has those things.

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