Facebook tips India and Pakistan into NUCLEAR WAR of words Ever keen to flirt with the apocalypse, Mark Zuckerberg has provoked a nuclear flame-war on Facebook by posting a map celebrating the "countries connected" by his controversial internet.org project, which features an outline of India which excludes the politically disputed territory of Kashmir. Kashmir has been the site of …
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Software geopolitics is not the issue, it's Silicon Valley morons who have rarely traveled outside of California thinking world peace will come about once everybody is on Facebook, driving a Tesla, and drinking a Starbucks Frappuccino.
Just wait till Internet.org pokes its do-gooder nose into the Middle East, it will probably take about 10 seconds for a fatwa to be issued on Zuckenberg's head for his support of gay marriage or some other belief-system incompatibility.
Also, dude, Paki is not the preferred nomenclature. 'Pakistani-American', please.
"Also, dude, Paki is not the preferred nomenclature"
The Pakistan ambassador to the UK has a car number plate of
PAK1
I've spoken to the driver when parked at an M1 service station and apparently the ambassador is quite happy with being called Paki.
Include Kashmir on the Indian infographic then shit will fly.
Include Kashmir on the Pakistani infographic then shit wil fly.
Make Kashmir it's own region then shit will fly.
You can go left, you can go right, or you can go straight down the middle. Whichever way you go you're still going to piss somebody off.
Not necessarily
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/03/phorm_webwise_discover/
You can go left, you can go right, or you can go straight down the middle. Whichever way you go you're still going to piss somebody off.
In that case, the best bet is to include only official, legal definitions.
So, in this instance, Kashmir (AFAIK) is legally recognised by most of the world to be part of India. It may be in dispute, but that is how the legal borders are drawn. Hence that is how he should have presented it.
He (or more likely, the web designers or marketing people) sparked this argument by diverging from the norm. There would have been far less reaction if he had included Kashmir: One more person doing the same as everyone else draws less comment than someone standing out from the crowd.
It's a disputed territory. This means, AFAIK, Pakistanis and Indians of non-Kashmiri origin cannot buy property in Kashmir. The reason being that both Pakistan and India agreed to old a referendum in Kashmir to decide which side it would join in a final resolution (ie self determination for the people of Kashmir).
The indians dragged their feet because it's quite likely the Kashmiries would go with Pakistan if given a 2 way option. The Pakistanis on the other hand aren't willing to have the third option on the ballot slip of full independence for the area.
It's a lot more detailed than that with water rights, overland connections to china etc but I don't think it's considered part of India else it would not be disputed but occupied territory.
I feel a whiff of aggression and forceful redrawing of maps which has not occurred in this world since the US single-handedly won WWII.
Why is the US not wading in to protect the people of X from being liberated by Y and rather make sure
☐ they democratically choose their independence
☐ something happens that has nothing at all to do with cleansing, ethnic or otherwise
☐ the rightful heir to the throne of the uniformed goons is a friend of Washington
and the people of X are given the freedoms they deserve?
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The place is a total hell-hole. Its pretty much the opposite of being worth fighting for... I suspect that the only reason they are fighting over it is not that they want it, they just don't want the other side to have it. Just like how India and Pakistan keep fighting over a worthless glacier where far more people have died due to exposure / hypoxia than from the enemy, they even had to design a special helicopter just to get people and equipment up there.
A hell hole? It's been described as paradise on earth before the dispute.
The reason they fight over it is because most of the major rivers in both Pakistan and India have their water source in Kashmir. Whosoever controls Kashmir controls the water supply.
For Pakistan it also includes access to a land route to China.
As for the glacier - the Pakistanis started that fight because they knew it would cost the Indians more to defend it than it would Pakistan - which it does.
Well to be true.. The indian media itself published map on TV with these states removed to cool down Chinese over Indian Moddi's visit there. Perhaps to lick Chinese balls and cool down relations... The Chinese also have been removing these states on their own the boss style!... anyway low life Indians will remain lowlife to get something in attention... 1990s they had a guy who could make petrol through a tea making process using weeds, then they had a guy claiming $100 laptop (olpc bitchslapped him), then a joke moon "lander" crash. This is same as infidels/shia Iran says "we captured U.S Drone" while its the Russian agents operating in those areas capturing U.S tech like they did in Serbia with F117.
http://www.indiatimes.com/news/india/its-a-bad-day-for-indian-maps-chinese-media-chops-off-arunachal-pradesh-kashmir-off-india-232675.html
http://www.kashmirdaily.net/chinese-tv-shows-india-without-kashmir/
http://www.livemedia24.com/videos/8102-chinese-state-tv-shows-indian-map-without-arunachal-pradesh-and-jammu-kashmir
It didn't. The trouble started in 1947 during the partition of India. The population of Kashmir wanted to be in India but the ruler chose Pakistan, or the other way around. Either way we end where we are now, a running sore between two nuclear powers.
The Zuck (or rather his PR) being a prat is not news.
"Why is the US not wading in to protect the people of X from being liberated by Y and rather make sure ..."
When has it ever waded in to protect the people of X? It only ever waddles in when its interests are at stake and if it means that as a result the people of X are protected then so be it.
"The reason they fight over it is because most of the major rivers in both Pakistan and India have their water source in Kashmir. Whosoever controls Kashmir controls the water supply."
Actually most of the major rivers in continental South/South East Asia have their source in the Tibetan Plateau. The major river having its source in Kashmir, the Karakash, flows into China.
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