back to article BARMY bio-boffins are growing DINOSAUR SNOUTS on CHICKENS

Having learned nothing from the triple Academy Award winning “documentary” of 1993, scientists from Harvard, Yale and several other universities have been manipulating chicken embryos into growing dinosaur faces. Published in the journal Evolution, the paper, titled "A molecular mechanism for the origin of a key evolutionary …

  1. Thecowking

    As long as Phil Tippet isn't involved

    I was stunned to find out he was _still_ the dinosaur handler in Jurassic World. He only ever has one job and it always ends in a dino eating a lawy...

    ...clever girl.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: As long as Phil Tippet isn't involved

      This is what happened when they tried this in the 1980s --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnBlst3T7bY

  2. TRT Silver badge

    Neither have they learnt that...

    cloning Palatines leads to war with the robots and an Imperial darkness that covers the galaxy for decades.

  3. cs94njw

    Pictures/Playmobil or it didn't happen.

  4. theOtherJT

    Myself and a few mates have had a long running bit of speculation regarding geese that we've never really been brave enough to test, namely: If you run screaming at a flock of them, do they scatter like pigeons, or attack like small dinosaurs?

    Looks like a new challenger has entered the ring...

    1. hplasm Silver badge
      Pint

      Re: Geese Speculating....

      Sounds like you need more of these to stimulate your research...

      1. theOtherJT

        Re: Geese Speculating....

        I'm pretty sure that's how the question arose in the first place ;)

        1. Graham Marsden
          Facepalm

          Re: Geese Speculating....

          Followed by "Hold my beer and watch this...!"

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Go

    "Our goal here was (snip) not to create a ‘dino-chicken’ simply for the sake of it," said (snip) Bhart-Anjan S. Bhullar"

    Bhart-Anjan. You say that like creating a dino-chicken just for the sake of it is a bad thing. Not so. There are nowhere near enough dino-hybrids around these days. Proceed, Bhart-Anjan. Please, take note of my icon and proceed.

    1. Graham Dawson Silver badge
      Thumb Up

      It's all about priorities.

    2. Mark 85 Silver badge

      Hmm.. dino-chicken dinners anyone? Would probably take a 2 meter fry pan, but it would make a lot of post-pub-neck-filer.

  6. Zog_but_not_the_first
    Trollface

    Pants on fire!

    "our aim was not to create a ‘dino-chicken’ simply for the sake of it"

    Yes it was.

  7. Little Mouse

    Mmmmmm - DinaChicken

    So tasty you'll never want to eat anything else.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Mmmmmm - DinaChicken

      Maybe, but eventually it will eat you.

  8. CAPS LOCK Silver badge

    Whilst I obviously welcome our Dino-chicken overlords...

    ... I also wonder whether they are good eatin'?

    1. Little Mouse

      Re: Whilst I obviously welcome our Dino-chicken overlords...

      They are.

      The esteemed Mr Asimov said so in "A statue for father"

      1. Neil Barnes Silver badge

        Re: Whilst I obviously welcome our Dino-chicken overlords...

        But they *still* taste a bit like chicken.

      2. Beau
        Happy

        Re: Whilst I obviously welcome our Dino-chicken overlords...

        An up-vote for the Little Mouse.

        I was trying desperately to remember the name of that excellent short story by Asimov.

  9. chivo243 Silver badge

    Where is Jeff Goldblum

    We need his classic quote! Sure we can, BUT should we...

    1. CAPS LOCK Silver badge

      Re: Where is Jeff Goldblum

      Shirley you mean:

      "At first it's all Ooh and Ah, then later there's running and screaming"

  10. Mage Silver badge
    Alien

    Suppressing ... earlier versions

    What next, people with tails?

    Six breasts?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Suppressing ... earlier versions

      Six breasts. Awesome!

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Coat

        Re: Suppressing ... earlier versions

        So, if you modify the 'number of breasts' gene in humans to behave like those in cats, you're saying we could breed women with 6 breasts? I can just imagine a young man dieing of starvation while trying to unhook the clasps.

        Hell, if we're going to modify genes, how long will it take the pornography industry to hire a man with elephant or blue whale genes?

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Suppressing ... earlier versions

          "how long will it take the pornography industry to hire a man with elephant or blue whale genes?"

          John Holmes died in 1988...

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Suppressing ... earlier versions

            Did we save his genes?

      2. Mage Silver badge

        Re: Suppressing ... earlier versions

        six : Sow

        four : Cow

        two: Goat

    2. Trigonoceps occipitalis

      Re: Suppressing ... earlier versions

      What next, people with tails?

      Yes, The Lani People.

  11. The last doughnut

    It tastes just like chicken

    Interesting angle on the molecular link to evolution. Seems to support the theory of evolution through natural selection. Except of course its a load of bunkum - the world and all of the earthly creatures were created in just five days about six thousand years ago.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: It tastes just like chicken

      "the world and all of the earthly creatures were created in just five days about six thousand years ago."

      It was actually created five minutes ago with all the apparent history and your artificial memories in place. Prove it wasn't (metaphysics exam question.)

      1. Suricou Raven Silver badge

        Re: It tastes just like chicken

        There is no need to prove it wasn't: A world in which it is true is indistinguishable from a world in which it is false, and so the question can have no defined answer. Not only can it not be proven or disproven by practical means, it cannot be answered by any means.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: It tastes just like chicken

          "A world in which it is true is indistinguishable from a world in which it is false"

          Perhaps you thought I was being serious?

          However, regardless of whether or not your answer is correct, it wouldn't gain you any exam marks. You would actually need to address the issue that your statement may be correct, but the premise is very improbable, and the kind of answer is different qualitatively from the solution of an equation.

          The best way to put this, perhaps, is to explore the implications of Creationism being correct. One of them is that God deliberately misleads human beings (e.g. with fossils) so that Creationists simultaneously have to believe that God is perfect and incapable therefore of doing anything which is not true and good, and that God is a liar who goes to the bother of writing the truth in a book in an obscure language while deliberately designing the entire observed universe to mislead us into believing the book is wrong.

          The "5 minutes ago creation" may not be disprovable but it can be demonstrated to be extremely implausible, and without the need to bring theology into it.

          1. theOtherJT

            Re: It tastes just like chicken

            The "5 minutes ago creation" may not be disprovable but it can be demonstrated to be extremely implausible, and without the need to bring theology into it.

            Depends on the class in which the question was set I reckon.

            If it was a theology class... well, frankly they're wasting your time. If it was a Philosophy of Science class the obvious rebuttal is to claim the the question is unfalsifiable and in accordance with Karl Popper's epistemology of scientific knowledge, is not scientific. As such the answer to the question is probably irrelevant outside of people's individual belief systems.

            If you wanted to go further than that you could invoke logical positivism to claim that the sentence is literally meaningless - although logical positivism isn't exactly popular and has plenty of issues of its own.

          2. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: It tastes just like chicken

            The "5 minutes ago creation" may not be disprovable but it can be demonstrated to be extremely implausible, and without the need to bring theology into it.

            - not to a believer. When I was younger and more foolish I tried.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Coat

          Re: It tastes just like chicken

          Yes it can be answered, if you are God

      2. Loyal Commenter Silver badge

        Re: It tastes just like chicken

        Prove it wasn't (metaphysics exam question.)

        Prove this answer isn't correct.

      3. Aedile

        Re: It tastes just like chicken

        The correct answer to this is to throw the logical fallacy flag. I don't have to prove jack. As the one making the claim the burden of proof lies with you. This is the same for any claim of a god, ghost, invisible unicorns, or flying spaghetti monsters. Do not get suckered by demands of people who want you to prove they are wrong.

  12. Hellcat

    If they wanted to see what a dino-hybrid looks like then go no further than the seagull.

    Not the weedy in-land seagulls but the super-angry, bite your head off as soon as look at you herring gull. If there ever was a barely evolved dinosaur roaming the planet then this is it. To see one grab a songbird that happend to be hopping past, and neck it down in one was like a real life man-on-the-toilet scene from Jurassic Park. Brutal!

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      herring gull

      I think this is rather the point of this research - demonstrating that birds could be back-evolved into their dinosaur ancestors is actually a sort of experimental evolutionary biology.

      Herring gulls? Fulmars. When you've seen a full grown fulmar close to, riding the air current along a cliff edge and looking at you as if speculating if it could bite off a lump without having to touch down, you realise just how important an opposable thumb has been in establishing the pecking order.

    2. Suricou Raven Silver badge

      Or a cassowary. Those things are basically dinosaurs by most definitions. They haven't evolved far off the ancestral type. The only reason they don't kill people is an inability to aim higher than knee-height - against an animal of their own size, they are quite capable of slicing a target open with a kick from their sharp-clawed feet.

  13. Paul Hovnanian Silver badge

    So now ....

    ... we can no longer say "as rare as hen's teeth".

    1. Elmer Phud

      Re: So now ....

      Next project is rocking horse poo.

    2. Suricou Raven Silver badge

      Re: So now ....

      A different group of scientists did just the teeth years ago. This is the first lot to get the whole beak.

  14. DJ
    FAIL

    Another fine idea

    What could possibly go wrong?

    I'll just go back to watching "The Last Man" now...

  15. Marketing Hack Silver badge
    Devil

    In Jurassic Russia....

    Chicken like taste you!

  16. x 7

    nothing new. See these from 2006

    http://news.sciencemag.org/2006/02/mutant-chickens-grow-teeth

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/mutant-chicken-grows-alli/

    besides which there have been anecdotal stories about toothed chickens for years

  17. Florida1920
    Holmes

    Send a few to South Florida

    We have rampant feral hogs and coyotes are eating lap dogs. Not to mention alligators. Dino-chickens could help create some balance. What could possibly go wrong?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Coat

      Re: Send a few to South Florida

      you forgot the anacondas & Boas eating crocadiles

      1. Marketing Hack Silver badge

        Re: Send a few to South Florida

        And the (formerly) Burmese Pythons

    2. launcap Silver badge

      Re: Send a few to South Florida

      > What could possibly go wrong?

      South Florida could be completely depopulated? Oh - you said "go wrong". Carry on :-)

    3. cortland

      Re: Send a few to South Florida

      We need something to eat the allegators, too.

    4. Charlie van Becelaere

      Re: Send a few to South Florida

      Don't forget the leprosy-spreading spitting armadillos!

  18. cortland

    Quoted

    "Shh is expressed in the ventral portion of the face"

  19. Adrian Tawse

    Damn

    No longer can I say "As rare as chicken's teeth"

  20. Kane Silver badge
    Go

    Wait a minute...

    ...does this mean I can actually get my own mini Raptor Squad?

  21. mix

    turtles

    Surely the scientists should be recreating all the delicious species that were eaten out of existence, not playing with the current delicious species?

    1. Paul Woodhouse

      Re: turtles

      hmm... it'll be a while before we get to sample Mammoth steak I would think... :(

    2. x 7

      Re: turtles

      better to bring back Moas. Think of the size of those wings and drumsticks

  22. The last doughnut

    Nandos

    I think this now explains two of the world great mysteries:

    1) what happened to the dinosaurs

    2) where do Nandos source their not particularly appetising low-cost protein content

  23. RainForestGuppy
    Mushroom

    All very well, but.....

    .....its still not a shark with a frickin laser on its head.

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