Office 365 integration
At bloody last!
I hope this translates over to the Win phone also. The multiple Microsoft single-signon options for the same products was a significant pain in the arse for small businesses trying to make sense of it all.
Microsoft has released preview Build 10074 of Windows 10 at its Build developer event in San Francisco. It is only a week since the previous preview build (10061) arrived, but this one is a milestone available even to users who prefer to stick with the more stable releases – the “slow” update cycle in Windows Insider terms. …
I use a local account, and when I installed 10041 it bitched about it. The question I have is can I still use onedrive without the entire account synchronising, or do I then have to go the whole kit and caboodle?
I like the look of it in general (after the botch that was 8) however having my entire account synchronised so that the FBI can read it at will fills me with horror.
If only they made it easier to find the local account option. Are all four options given in the same place or do you have to look for a link in 3 point font in order to create a local account?
I don't know. It's still in development! Adding a Win 7 machine to a domain is several clicks away, so don't be shocked if you need to 'find' the local account option. But it's not like you're going to have to hack the registry to get to it.
> God forbid someone else may have different usage requirements to you.
Welcome to the Reg forums, where if you don't use something or simply don't like the idea then a) you MUST USE IT because you're "forced" to and b) it should be banned and so should the company that makes it.
Also, swearing you'll never use it means you're a hardcore dangerous rebel that the cool kids will like.
Even being on the fast track we may have build 10074, but if you look at Joe Belfiore's PC at the BUILD conference (one of them, anyway) he's using a much later version there.
At the moment, Microsoft are feeding us small improvements in slightly older builds a bit at a time so they can merge together what they get feedback on and can change and what they are working on anyway without feedback in order to get everything working.
Considering the state of the most recent build, I'd say they're moving on really damn quickly, and - as odd as it is to say it - they may actually produce a final build within a not-too-off-the-mark timeframe as the end of July.
why is it some commentards see an optional feature and then immediately decide it's mandatory
Because they are old enough to know this is how it all starts. Look how Google started enforcing needing Google accounts to access the Play store, etc.
For me, the biggest deterrent to using cloudy goodness is the mish mash of accounts which seem to be needed. Playing around with Google for Work on my personal device (it's a testbed one, not my *real* one) I was irritated to see that now the device can conflate my personal gMail account with the one needed for work. Not what I want at all.
Playing around with Google for Work on my personal device (it's a testbed one, not my *real* one) I was irritated to see that now the device can conflate my personal gMail account with the one needed for work. Not what I want at all.
Crazy as it sounds but this is the purpose of being able to login with a 365 account. No longer will you need to login with a local or account linked to your personal hotmail.com account. You login with your company's 365 account, get their mail, their apps, their cloud storage, their contacts. This is why having the same option for Windows 10 phone is important - or at least some changes to the workplace functionality.
You login with your company's 365 account, get their mail, their apps, their cloud storage, their contacts.
Crazy as it sounds, not every one uses Office 365, even for their company. Why is it so hard to give the user options without forcing everyone to default to an option that isn't the most prevalent?
Because even though we are not being FORCED to use the MIcrosoft or Ofice 365 Accounts to log in its what Microsoft WANT people to do so they will Hide and make it hard to log in as a local account. that way Joe Public will just do it.
You need a Windows or Office 365 account to access Onedrive, App Store and other Microsoft services so why would they want people only using a local account as that does not potentially provide them with more revenue, ............................................ or allow their Overlords the NSA access to your data.....
Thought I'd give Win10 a look at in a VM just now...
Oh FFS: "Insider Stats" > "0 quests completed", "0 quests completed on this device".
Is this a fucking operating system (preview) or is it some retarded game aimed at tween / teenagers? Did I download and install the wrong ISO from Microsoft?
Other than that, good chunks are similar to Win 8 with items helpfully hidden away, an odd mis-mash of touchscreen friendly and non-touchscreen friendly controls and stupid and annoying sounds and graphical fade transitions when they're not needed and don't enhance anything. In many places MS still seem to have forgotten some of the most basic aspects of good UI design, but it's not as bad as Win 8 where randomly thumbing the screen in the hope that something happened was the design principle of choice.
No, it isn't just you - lots of people hate them, especially around here.
Personally, I have a windows phone, I like seeing a headline on a tile instead of having to open a news app all the time. I also like seeing my next appointment on a tile without having to worry about reminders being timely.
I also like seeing the basic weather on a tile, an indicator of unread emails, Whatsapp, email, Skype and Text messages outstanding etc. - all without having to slide for notifications and scrolling down a list (although that can be useful of course).
I personally added the phase of the Moon and the Sunrise and Sunset times (courtesy of Skymap for both) to my start screen. Tiles are clever and can be double sided, take three sizes and exist in multiple forms at the same time from the same App. This is so far from a shitty, useless icon that comparison is pointless.
So, enjoy being part of the club of Win3.1 fans and love that static screen. If you are more a fan of 'all different, interacting-differently, differently-shaped widgets' then obviously Android is your thing.
Enjoy, just try not to belittle other peoples' completely reasonable choices.
At what point did I belittle others?
I understand they have function, and from what you have said many people find them useful, and that's great. I also didn't state I wanted them to be static, but infact have that sort of colour scheme/style.
So why do they have to look so ugly? To have that functionality, why do they have to be blocks of solid bright, high contrast colour?
I don't see why you had to get so touchy about it.
I have W10 installed on an old Sony Viao laptop (about 5-6 years old) and I cannot use the Synaptic touchpad because as soon as I do whole thing freezes up. This is exactly the same as the previous build. The only solution found so far is to uninstall the touch pad and use a USB mouse instead.
Just installed Build 10074, in the expectation that some kind of progress might have been made on resolving the issue of placeholder files in OneDrive, so as to keep data storage on a particular PC low while being able to look at the cloud file structure in File Manager. Unbelievably, considering how fundamental this now is to many people's requirements, Microsoft are still using Version 2013 of OneDrive (yes, from 2013, as used in Windows 7), not even the current Windows 8.1 version.
With every new build, I get the impression of a poorly-managed development team that is finding it hard going just to back up a GUI design team mainly concerned with cosmetics and flashy bolt-on modules. The release of a build unable, even if temporarily, to run 32-bit binaries from the Start menu reinforces this suggestion of incompetence and maybe lack of understanding or documentation of the Windows 7 code on which I suspect all the subsequent relatively superficial stuff runs. What has been achieved so far really shouldn't have taken this long. Yes, it looks OK and seems to function reasonably well in general, but development since the release of Windows 8 has hardly been stellar, considering Microsoft's resources and supposed creative expertise. I'm not holding my breath for an amazing revelation in July. Just as well the upgrade will be free. I certainly wouldn't pay for it.
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