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Apple's Watch innards have been bared, and they're not so dissimilar from those one might expect of a teeny tiny iPhone. The wristjobs were apparently in high demand and chief Tim Cook found Cupertino's stock quickly exhausted by pre-orders. Funny that. On Friday, however, Apple Watches began to be delivered across the whole …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    You owe me a new sarcasm detector.

    "The launch has been very quietly received by Apple enthusiasts, who are typically modest and restrained users of social media."

    1. Bill Fresher

      Re: You owe me a new sarcasm detector.

      You owe me a new stating the obvious detector.

      Thank you very much.

  2. Montague Wanktrollop

    So they're finally out!

    Now the global use of the phrase 'you twat' will increase tenfold.

    1. Captain DaFt

      Re: So they're finally out!

      And already old news. Smart watch? Bah! I got my Smart Ring ages ago!

      1. JassMan
        Trollface

        Re: So they're finally out! @ Captain DaFt

        If your ring smarts, I would advise following the little pepper symbols on the Indian menus a bit more closely. Just one less pepper can often make all the difference. Also try eating more yoghurt at the same time.

  3. Antonymous Coward
    Paris Hilton

    Despair? Fanbois? Really?

    Gaze upon Cook's wristjob, ye fanbois, and despair ejaculate

    Methinks you've simultaneously overestimated the sophistication and underestimated the devotion of the fanboisie there Reg.

  4. Nick Ryan Silver badge

    Doesn't look to be unreasonably put together. When buying a watch one generally doesn't expect it to be upgradeable and just because somebody's shoved a small computer system and large screen into the form factor of a (large) watch doesn't make it a candidate for instant upgrading.

    Like anything vaguely phone or computer like, this device will likely be obsolete within 3-5 years and the battery (in combination with a good quality charging circuit) should last that long. Replacing the battery after that time ought to be possible given this tear down but many users will just upgrade / replace the device instead because that's what they are used to doing with mobile devices.

    1. RainForestGuppy

      3 - 5 years???

      Remember this is aimed at Fanbois. So when the "new and improved" Watch+ comes out in 6 months these will be consigned to the draw with the iphone, iphone3, 4 ,4S, 5, various Ipads, Macbook Air, etc

    2. Yag

      "When buying a watch one generally doesn't expect it to be upgradeable"

      When buying a decently priced watch, one generally doesn't expect it to be a piece of useless junk in 3-5 years...

      1. Shaha Alam

        Re: "When buying a watch one generally doesn't expect it to be upgradeable"

        if you're worried about longevity in overpriced consumer tech, you're in the wrong market.

        1. Yag

          "if you're worried about longevity in overpriced consumer tech, you're in the wrong market."

          Indeed, but we were talking about good ol' fashioned watches and their lack of upgradibility mainly due to the fact that you don't need to upgrade them to keep on being useful.

          1. Richard 81

            Re: "if you're worried about longevity in overpriced consumer tech, you're in the wrong market."

            Generally a watch that only performs the function of a watch doesn't need replacing until you whack it into a door frame and the second hand falls off. Battery death isn't even a problem, since A) they last for ever and B) you can open the back yourself and stick a new one in for a few quid.

            I like techno bits and bobs as much as the next commentard, but I see no reason for smart watches at all.

            1. TheOtherHobbes

              Re: "if you're worried about longevity in overpriced consumer tech, you're in the wrong market."

              >I see no reason for smart watches at all.

              At half the thickness, ten times the battery life, half the cost and enough processing power for good speech recognition I could see some reasons.

              But this is just a dumbed down overweight iPod nano with the music removed.

    3. Jagged

      "When buying a watch one generally doesn't expect it to be upgradeable"

      - but I do expect to be able to replace scratched glass or in this case, screen.

  5. macjules

    Yuk.

    "... by now presumably panting and warming up their wrists in excitement."

    Far too much information.

  6. Jim Willsher

    Whilst I do confess to owning an iphone (all beatings accepted), I haven't worn *any* watch for about 30 years, so the apple watch will not be on my wishlist.

    And TBH, and don't see any appeal to it whatsoever. Perhaps I'm the minority.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      No, you're not alone. I have been wondering just where the appeal is in this watch, and I'm stumped. I'm not enamoured by the design, it offers no functionality that appeals to be over the watches I already have and I prefer a watch that works longer than 24h.

      Actually, even a watch with nixie tubes has a better battery life than the Apple watch :)

      I'm more heading the the opposite direction with tech, cutting down on electronic interruptions - mornings are now email/msg/phone free, only people who *really* need me know how to get hold of me during that time.

      Personally, the only interesting thing in the whole watch is the "Taptic Engine". As it is a linear actuator it just makes me wonder if it can work in reverse* for the kind of person who wants this watch just to "belong"...

      1. DrXym

        "I have been wondering just where the appeal is in this watch"

        "Shiny" and "poor impulse control" is the appeal.

      2. oldsteel

        Might be being naive here, but Kinetic watches have been around for years now. While it take probably more current to drive a display, could one of those smart Apple tekkies take the kinetic technology and upgrade it so that it will charge the watch simply by movement of the wrist? I agree, having a watch that needs charging every day makes no sense.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      From what I can see, other than people who'd buy the latest apple release even if it were dog shit with the logo printed on it, the target market seems to be people who cant be arsed to take their phones out of their pockets.

      1. wayward4now

        "From what I can see, other than people who'd buy the latest apple release even if it were dog shit with the logo printed on it,"

        I smell a money making opportunity here. Would you claim prior art if I patented "dog shit" with a logo on it??

    3. Trigonoceps occipitalis

      " ... don't see any appeal to it whatsoever ... "

      But digital watches are a pretty neat idea.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        But digital watches are a pretty neat idea.

        ... aaand we're back with the late Douglas Adams :)

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Rolex

    Have nothing to worry about!

    1. gnasher729 Silver badge

      Re: Rolex

      Interesting assumption. I would bet that the more expensive Apple Watches will cost Rolex some sales. How many, nobody knows, but remember that BlackBerry wasn't openly worried about the iPhone either. (Internally, they said "they put a whole f***ing computer into a phone or something like that).

      And this is only hard to repair / hard to upgrade if you think about a $349 watch. If you paid $10,000 for an Apple Edition Watch, which is what Rolex would worry about, an upgrade for 5 percent of the watch price is very, very easy.

      1. Lallabalalla

        Re: Rolex

        Cost Rolex some sales? Don't be silly. Anyone with that kind of disposable income will simply buy both. To add to the collection which will include Patek Phillipe, Omega, Breitling etc etc.

        1. Fred Flintstone Gold badge

          Re: Rolex

          My personal favourite has always been Quinting. I recall stopping mid stride after walking past a shop in the Bahnhofstrasse in Zurich, because my brain had only then registered that was something weird with the watch I just glanced at - there was seemingly nothing driving the arms in this totally see-through watch.

          It doesn't come out well in some pictures, but you can look through them - there is no mechanism visible as it's all in the edge.

          1. TeeCee Gold badge

            Re: Quinting

            Ok, I've now seen it.

            Just trying to work out why you'd want to be able to see a small, circular section of your wrist through your watch. As overpriced complexity solving a problem that doesn't exist goes, this even beats the Apple device.

            1. Solmyr ibn Wali Barad

              Re: Quinting

              Ah, but it doesn't seem to be about solving a problem. It's more likely doing something for the sake of doing it, just because they can. Design awards and press buzz as a bonus.

              1. Fred Flintstone Gold badge

                Re: Quinting

                Ah, but it doesn't seem to be about solving a problem. It's more likely doing something for the sake of doing it, just because they can. Design awards and press buzz as a bonus.

                I rather like the stubbornness of not giving up on an idea just because it happens to be difficult or even pointless. It reminds me of the Useless machines. They truly do nothing useful, but it's fun nevertheless.

                1. Solmyr ibn Wali Barad

                  Re: Quinting

                  Yes, the fun factor. It may be a bit underestimated at times - small skunkworks projects may unexpectedly bring about a major breakthrough, and a motherlode of other goodies to go with it. But sometimes it turns out to be nothing but a twattery. Apparently it has to be a delicate mix of playfulness, skill, determination, luck, and deity-knows-what-else. Pegasus really doesn't give advance warnings about his next visit.

        2. Kristian Walsh Silver badge

          Re: Rolex

          Most Rolex customers won't want a Patek. You need to know a little bit about watches to have heard of Patek Philippe, but very few people buying a new Rolex are doing so to initiate discussions about the art of watchmaking with their social circle.

          Like the Rolex, Apple is pitching Watch as a status symbol - the only purpose of owning one is to show you're rich enough to own one (or that you're an iOS developer who's been railroaded into buying one by Apple's policies on app development for the thing). This month's British Vogue featured an insert catalogue for the thing, beside the ads for the £5,000 handbags, £10,000 dresses and £150,000 diamond rings.

          One thing about showing off, though: the Apple Watch uses the same innards for every variant, with no difference in function or quality between the cheapest and dearest -only the casework is the differentiator. However, I'm sure someone has already started a small workshop electroplating the cheaper steel models (or the design-knockoff models) with enough gold to pass as the expensive ones.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Rolex

            You need to know a little bit about watches to have heard of Patek Philippe

            Or read the Economist - I swear it's every second advert.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Grand Seiko...

              ...all the way.

        3. Porco Rosso

          Re: Rolex

          Mmm the Rolex,Patek Phillipe, Omega, Breitling lillte helpers aren't modern slaves as there counterpart at Foxcon ...

        4. gnasher729 Silver badge

          Re: Rolex

          Don't be silly yourself. There are people who can't afford a very expensive watch. There are people you can afford more than one. And there are those who can afford to add _one_ very expensive watch to their collection, but not two.

      2. Shaha Alam

        Re: Rolex

        rolex and apple don't sell to the same customers.

        one sells overpriced vanity gear to people with too much money.

        the other sells hideously overpriced vanity gear to people with far, far too much money.

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Rolex

        they had some goon on radio 5 this morning trying to compare the expensive gold apple phones to high end watches, he totally missed the point. High end watches cost a packet as there handcrafted and take along time to make, not just some random bit of circuit board in a gold case. If you get a high end watches it'll last forever and go up in value, not be out of date and worth sod all beyond the scrap gold value in about 3yrs

        1. Dave 126 Silver badge

          Re: Rolex

          >If you get a high end watches it'll last forever and go up in value*

          *Disclaimer: investments can go down as well as up in value. Investments are undertaken at your own risk.

          1. Dave 126 Silver badge

            Re: Rolex

            True, Rolex are the go-to watch for people wanting a status symbol. However, they are very well made. Here's a look inside Rolex's manufacturing facilities, from a popular watch blog:

            http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/inside-rolex

            For juxtaposition, here's an Industrial Designer looking at the processes used in the Apple Watch. You don't need to be a Apple fan to find it interesting, a passing interest in manufacturing will suffice:

            http://www.core77.com/posts/34524/Industrial-Designer-Explains-Production-Methods-Shown-in-Apple-Watch-Manufacturing-Videos

            Due to Apple's volume of production (and their confidence in their projections) they can use processes that others probably wouldn't.

      4. Jediben

        Re: Rolex

        If you can afford £10k on an Apple Watch, you can afford multiple Rolexs (and will buy them) as well. Rolex have NOTHING to worry about.

      5. arnief

        Re: Rolex

        Repairs on an expensive watch can be very costly. Check the FedEx insurance cost!

        I once sent a Rolex President into the Rolex New York repair center for service. It was stolen by a worker there (but replaced by Rolex).

    2. John Bailey

      Re: Rolex

      Neither do Casio.

  8. bpfh
    WTF?

    Why all the talk about upgrading?

    You certainly won't upgrade a watch that requires a degree in swiss watchmaking just to dissassemble... Repair duff screens, and change the battery after a year when it's fsck'ed defo, but that's as far as I would be willing to go and waste my time (but I'm quite happy with my Seiko and Hamilton automatic watches that do their job, need no recharging, and are globally maintenance and upgrade free...)

    1. Valeyard

      Re: Why all the talk about upgrading?

      yeah but you rarely need to open up any other kind of watch. mine is on its second battery and cost about 30 quid 10 years ago

      and for 30 quid i don't expect or want upgradability

  9. graeme leggett Silver badge

    "Or even send something as personal as your heartbeat"

    that's just creepy.

    And if someone needs their pulse remotely monitoring, I suggest something with Medical Device approval according to the statutory regulations.

    though we could get a new spin on "My Grandfather's Clock"

    1. Yag
      Gimp

      "My Grandfather's Clock"

      Reminds me of a quite recent Not Safe For Work comics.

      (Seriously, don't look it up. This comic is not safe for sanity. What about mine? long gone, my friends, long gone...)

  10. james 68

    So who's taking bets on how long it will be before some fame seeking hipster straps one of these to something other than a wrist and appears in a sex tape which also displays the "pulse" for added effect?

    Because we all know it WILL happen. Proof in case is that there is already a porn novel (I shit you not).

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Invaded-iWatch-Erotic-Digital-Desires-ebook/dp/B00V2WXYO4

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Proof in case is that there is already a porn novel (I shit you not).

      I think your irony detector has malfunctioned.

      1. james 68

        Nope, the guy that wrote the novel is entirely serious and has a range of books covering various tech fetishes. Conquered by Clippy and Taken by Tetris are the other 2 in this particular series. No irony, just a sad little man writing the tech equivalent of furry porn.

        1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge
          Happy

          james 68,

          Which leads me to the question m'lud. How did the accused know about the existence of this literature? Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, I rest my case...

          1. WolfFan

            Which leads me to the question m'lud. How did the accused know about the existence of this literature? Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, I rest my case...

            Found looking for something else. Hint: be very careful doing a Google search containing 'my little pony' or 'powerpuff girls' or even 'barbie'. Some combinations of search terms can have unexpected results. You have been warned. I wish someone had warned me. (memory of Big Macintosh and one of the other male ponies having a gay old time firmly suppressed.)

  11. Rick Berry

    Not a Family Heirloom

    In a few short years, these watches will be completely inoperative. A bit further down the road, the battery will start to corrode and completely dissolve the innards. Meanwhile, the 100+ year old gold pocket watches left to me by my grandfather will still be running and keeping accurate time.

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Facepalm

    The tacky insides makes the inflated price of the Edition variation seem even more ludicrous. Just compare the insides of a Fanbangle Edition (yes, identical to the Fanbangle Sport) with a well finished Swiss movement - no sniggering at the back please.

  13. Shaha Alam

    so what if you can't upgrade it?

    why would anyone expect to upgrade/replace parts in their watch??

    1. nematoad

      Re: so what if you can't upgrade it?

      "why would anyone expect to upgrade/replace parts in their watch?"

      You obviously haven't been on any of the watch enthusiast sites then.

      See here:

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: so what if you can't upgrade it?

      why would anyone expect to upgrade/replace parts in their watch??

      What, like replace the battery? Everybody. Until the likes of Apple bastardise the category, anyway.

    3. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

      Re: so what if you can't upgrade it?

      why would anyone expect to upgrade/replace parts in their watch??

      When it's just cost them $10,000 and it needs to integrate with their phone which gets software upgrades every year - one of which will eventually make them incompatible perhaps?

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  14. Dan Paul

    Funny thing though......

    My $75 Invicta I bought at Sam's Club 4 years ago is still on the same battery. My $350 Suunto runs about 2 years on 2) CR2032 Li batteries, an old Casio I've had for 15 years still works and runs 2 years on 1) CR2032.

    All cheap watches with exception to the Suunto and they all have better battery life than Apple's toy watch and are still working fine. No reason to "upgrade" them, they are just watches but they have easily replaceable batteries.

    The only thing that would attract me to something like their so called "watch" is a fully functioning cell phone the size of a watch, prefferably one with PTT and Bluetooth capability.

    Been waiting for that since the days of the "Dick Tracy" watch but won't hold my breath.

  15. 2Fat2Bald

    What does this do that the fleet of Android watches don't?

    Other than "massage your ego"?

    1. james 68

      Gives you that warm fuzzy feeling that only being a member of a (semi)religious cult can provide.

    2. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

      On the other hand, what's the harm in having your ego massaged for £300?

      Myself, it doesn't float my boat, and I won't be buying one. But unless you only wear brown sacking, you must have spent at least some money on such flummery. At which point, it's merely a matter of degree.

      1. Steven Raith

        "On the other hand, what's the harm in having your ego massaged for £300?"

        For £300, you can get your ego massaged, along with many other parts. More than once.

        Probably a better use of the money.

        Steven R

        1. Sarah Balfour

          there needs to be a 'filthy mind' icon (although I expect I'd be the only one using it)

          1. Steven Raith

            No, I think I'd get a fair bit of mileage out of it too...

            Steven "not so much mind in the gutter, as positively subterranean" R

    3. Mage Silver badge

      Android watches don't?

      It's zero use at all without an iPhone.

  16. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    •Once you're inside, the battery is quite easy to remove—only mild adhesive holds it in place

    So, expect the next variant to use araldite or other similar permanent adhesive.

  17. Tromos

    Apple are obviously steering the fanbois towards the more expensive strap options. That sports strap makes the whole thing look like a kids watch picked up from Lidl for a fiver.

    1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

      It's pretty shocking that it's something like a £100 "upgrade" to get an identical watch, but with a steel strap. And I believe their straps are non-standard, in order to make sure they get their full pound of flesh.

      Suddenly their £30 USB cables are starting to look quite reasonably priced...

      1. thesykes

        Not to worry, there'll be replacement copies on eBay for a fiver in a couple of weeks.

        1. thesykes

          I'll take that back. They're already on there. As are the watches themselves.

  18. Dazed and Confused
    Facepalm

    Additional instructions are printed on the reverse of the band ...

    Is it just me or does this say something about the target market?

    Reminds me of the Douglas Adams story about instructions on a packet of toothpicks.

  19. TheOldBear

    Anyone remember the HP 01 Watch?

    Clearly the leading influence for the Apple Watch, from back when digital was a new buzzword.

    http://www.led-forever.com/html/hp-01_led_calculator_watch.html

    1. Charles 9

      Re: Anyone remember the HP 01 Watch?

      "Clearly the leading influence for the Apple Watch, from back when digital was a new buzzword.

      http://www.led-forever.com/html/hp-01_led_calculator_watch.html"

      Back when I was a kid I was given a Casio LCD calculator watch for Christmas. Having a calculator always (in a manner) at hand proved quite handy when a quick calculation was needed, especially when pen and paper weren't readily available. Lasted about ten years before it broke beyond repair.

  20. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I can imagine Apple fanboys horrified

    and fainting in front of this vivisection. They must have been feeling it as opening their own guts with no anesthesia.

  21. phil dude
    Thumb Up

    pulse oximeter...

    If this were true and blood O2 could be measured, it could have serious implications for health monitoring.

    For example, cyanosis can come on very suddenly, e.g. exposure to CO is both immediate and accumulative.

    I have no opinion on the watch itself, but I thought this an interesting observation.

    P.

    1. DocJames

      Re: pulse oximeter...

      Pulse oximetry can't distingish between oxyhaemoglobin and carboxyhaemoglobin; you need to do arterial blood gases. OTOH, you do make a reasonable point that there are many conditions where monitoring of pulse oximetry can be helpful - you can get cheap ($30) pulse oximeters online these days. Lots of GPs have them now.

  22. skeptical i
    Devil

    waiting for the Zaptic hack

    dial the target's watch with a few cryptic deep magick commands to "reach out and zap someone". I saw something like it in a movie once, so of course it's possible.

  23. Anon5000

    Watches for Dummies

    Does one see instructions for how to do up the strap on the actual strap in the photo? Love the faith that Apple has in the IQ of the people who would purchase one of these watches...

  24. Vince

    You know I'd almost forgotten the watch became properly available today, because it's such an uninteresting thing.

    Presumably though this weekend the pubs will be full of drunken twats stabbing at the wrists of friends instead of just stabbing each other. Well, if the battery lasted long enough that it was still working by the evening...

  25. 080
    Happy

    Could be useful

    Can you receive Morse code via the tapdick interface?

    1. Charles 9

      Re: Could be useful

      Perhaps not out of the box, but I don't see why it couldn't do two-way Morse code via haptic feedback and touch/button input. They make such stuff for Android devices and Samsung Gear already.

  26. Stevie

    Bah!

    The most important question for me: Canya gerrit wet wi'yout it poppin' its clogs?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Bah!

      That's a good question. My £600 tissot titanium T-Touch, despite being marked as water resistant to 30 meters, isn't!!!!!

  27. FatGerman

    Who wears watches nowadays anyway?

    When I want to know the time, I take out my phone and look at the screen....

  28. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Assumptions

    Given how easy it was to strip out the innards, who is saying the top end watches cannot be upgraded, or traded in to Apple? The case is gold, this can be very efficiently recycled or exchanged.

    The nice thing with products like this is we don't have to buy them.

    I have a very nice, titanium watch which is solar powered. It will never need a battery, or charging for that matter. I don't need an Apple watch, and as such will not be buying one.

  29. Conundrum1885

    Re. pulse oximeter...

    Yet the S*m*ung Gear2 has this available via app (pricey but works)

    I think it is sold as a novelty though, not intended for accuracy but will tell you for example what sleep state someone is in by combining SpO2, pulse rate and evoked response with some more work.

    <cough> vibrate motor + accelerometer to see if they move when blipped</cough>

    The FDA really is a pain, Apple could have marketed this well and increased sales by about 10% by selling it to people with sleep apnoea/etc for long term minimally invasive monitoring.

  30. Francis Vaughan

    It isn't a watch.

    Seriously, it is no more a watch than an iPhone is a mobile phone. Sure, an iPhone can make calls, and an Apple Watch can tell the time, but neither are their respective primary functions. Nor does the device dissected cost £10,000, it costs £300.

    The peanut gallery's constant desire to compare it to a Rolex is simply stupid. The device that iFixIt dissected costs less than a great many people spend on a watch that does only tell the time. And its purpose isn't to tell the time. Just imagine that Apple had decided not to release the silly gold version, and had called it something other than a watch. The vast majority of the pointless comments would have been stillborn. Perhaps then commentators might have focussed on what it is actually good for, and not what it isn't.

    1. Martin-73 Silver badge

      Re: It isn't a watch.

      Of course it's a watch. And the iphone is a phone. The clue is in the names

  31. Ekim C

    So many smart people here.

    This is another place where tech industries should listen to. So many great ideas here and people know a thing or two what great product should be - It's pretty amazing. I think most people here are successful folks. Yeah, the tech industries should listen to you guys.

  32. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    So, the one they ripped apart?

    They had one off the wrist then?

  33. Conundrum1885

    Re. taptic

    Interesting idea, shame Apple haven't got a "budget" version for a mere £199.

    Also I wonder how they got around the battery shipping issue? Is there an exemption for small batteries if contained in equipment maybe?

    I still say Apple should have included Li-Fi as an updating method, much faster and good for Gbps between devices, and also a microSD slot *inside* the watch so that when the battery gets changed the memory can be increased for a small charge.

  34. Tim Almond

    Ursine activities in woods

    "The difficulty removing the S1 casts serious doubt on the ability to upgrade the Apple Watch"

    At this point, you might as well report on popes being Catholic.

  35. Wilseus

    On looks alone...

    ...I'll take the Huawei or the Moto 360 over this any day!

  36. attoman

    A word to the writers.

    When explaining the "crown" it would appear someone conflates analog and digital with computers.

    Specifically "......which reads the spinning of the angular position of a shaft into analog or digital code that computers can understand."

    All real world devices (mice, rotary encoders, voltages) are analog and are converted by many schemes into digital information which is all a computer (microprocessor) can accept.

    Further there are no analog codes.

    As for the iWatch after reading this series of reports iWaiting.

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