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India is joining the world of exotic particle research, announcing US$235 million worth of funding for a neutrino observatory in the country's south. Approval for the India-based Neutrino Observatory (INO), proposed in 2013, means construction of the underground complex can now begin. The 1,300 metre deep cavern under the …

  1. Vince Lewis 1

    mutated neutrinos

    I hope they'll be able to detect those mutated neutinros before they overheat the earths core creating a global catastrophe.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: mutated neutrinos

      Perhaps your downvoter didn't get that this is a reference to the risible Hollywood disaster movie "2012", in which that very thing happens.

      Look out for Dara O'Briain's critique of this awful film, which was part of his live stand up routine a while ago. Very funny.

      1. werdsmith Silver badge

        Re: mutated neutrinos

        Perhaps the down-voter was 12 years old or less, anyone older is unlikely to be interested in the voting feature.

  2. solo
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    Diversity of culture

    ..was the most badly affected aspect of science. Failure or success doesn't matter.

  3. TwistUrCapBack

    AID !!

    "announcing US$235 million worth of funding for a neutrino observatory in the country's south"

    And we still pay them aid !! Shocking.

    1. iRadiate

      Re: AID !!

      So predictable. If this were an episode of Qi then there would be a massive sign showing the phrase 'and yet we give them aid' along with a loud klaxon going off

      1. Chris Miller

        Re: AID !!

        The QI klaxon is for falsehoods that are widely believed to be true. But aid to India (£200m pa) is real, although it is planned to stop this year. Here is an article from that hotbed of right-wing propaganda, The Guardian, explaining.

        1. tony2heads

          Re: AID !!

          but to be fair a £200m aid budget for a population of 1.25 billion is about 16p a head. Many rich individuals in India could spare that sort of money

        2. iRadiate

          Re: AID !!

          Fair enough you're technically correct but is it really 'aid' when the country in question doesn't want it. More like a forced gift to make the gift giver feel good about themselves.

          India had said for about 4 or 5 years now that they don't want the cash as they don't need it. It's a matter of pride. My sister brought over a hamper of food a few years ago when I was out of work. The 'aid' although well intentioned wasn't wanted and made me feel inadequate. I politely declined it.

    2. harmjschoonhoven

      Re: AID !!

      Indias annual military budget is 38.35 billion USD (FY 2014, nominal). Its (100% military) Defence Research and Development Organisation has a budget of 1600 million USD and India is estimated to have an arsenal of 90-110 nuclear weapons (SIPRI 2014).

      Let them research the Mikheyev-Smirnov-Wolfenstein mechanism on a shoestring. Neutrinos are harmless, they zap the earth core unhindered.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: AID !!

      What's shocking is how short a memory people in the west have about history. Think Britain looted India to the tune of $73 trillian by today's standards and ravaged its resources. So, $235m is small potatoes.

      Also why do some countries have so much more money to give than others? The days of empire are hopefully over, but unfortunately it has been replaced by more insidious methods of ensuring an uneven playing field. Free trade, World Bank & IMF anyone?

      What's sad is when profiteers do not acknowledge their responsibilities. I suppose on the plus side Britain brought railways and some measure of non-altruistic development to India. Beats creating massive opium addiction amoungst the population anyway..

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: AID !!

        Seems like the AID is foisted on India anyway:

        "“We do not require the aid,” he said, according to the official transcript of the session.

        “It is a peanut in our total development exercises [expenditure].” He said the Indian government wanted to “voluntarily” give it up.

        According to a leaked memo, the foreign minister, Nirumpama Rao, proposed “not to avail [of] any further DFID [British] assistance with effect from 1st April 2011,” because of the “negative publicity of Indian poverty promoted by DFID”.

        But officials at DFID, Britain’s Department for International Development, told the Indians that cancelling the programme would cause “grave political embarrassment” to Britain, according to sources in Delhi.

        DFID has sent more than £1 billion of UK taxpayers’ money to India in the last five years and is planning to spend a further £600 million on Indian aid by 2015.

        “They said that British ministers had spent political capital justifying the aid to their electorate,” one source told The Sunday Telegraph.

        “They said it would be highly embarrassing if the Centre [the government of India] then pulled the plug.”"

        "That aid to India is a political tool and supports Britain's strategic interests is undeniable, even if it is frequently denied by some official spokespersons. But here a lot of other factors come into play, including attitudes to the aid on both sides. Public opinion in India was appalled recently, when India's decision to buy fighter jets from France rather than the UK (after a global tendering process) was decried in the British media as "ingratitude" given the UK's aid to India."

    4. Robert Helpmann??

      Re: AID !!

      Political arguments concerning redistribution of funds aside (I am not qualified to judge), while the difference was less significant than that between the various Mars missions, this price tag is still less than comparable efforts elsewhere in the world.

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  4. Anonymous Coward
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    Enough cash of their own for a space programme and big science

    Remind me why they need aid sending again....

    1. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge
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      Re: Enough cash of their own for a space programme and big science

      Frankly, you are an hour late, dear.

    2. Chris G

      Re: Enough cash of their own for a space programme and big science

      Personally I see no reason why HMG should not continue to send aid. At least they will be spending money on hard scie tific research for a change and from the looks of the mars shot, they will get good value fofor money.

    3. Raj

      Re: Enough cash of their own for a space programme and big science

      Because we register it as reparations and like having you keep sending money over one way or the other, even if we don't give a crap about what you think when it comes to how we use the money.

  5. fortran

    High Background Area?

    While Kerala doesn't have quite the high background as Ramsar (sp?) in northern Iran, this village appears to be on the edge of Kerala. There are no monazite placer deposits, or thorium ores in the vicinity of that village? Or are they counting on that being nearby for some reason?

  6. Martin Budden Silver badge

    Inter-Institutional Institute

    Catchy name! I like it.

    I wonder if we can make it even better?

    International Inter-Institutional Institute for Inferring Interesting Intermittent Interstellar Interactions

    The acronym is IIIIIIIII

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