Great work
Similarly I like to scratch diamonds on the face of Rolexes watches in my local jewellers whenever they have a new model out, just to, you know, show Rolex how they need to fix their sapphire glass
Two teenagers have braved the wrath of Tim Cook after apparently sneaking into an Apple store and bending a number of iPhones, after which they uploaded the vid to YouTube, as you do. The pair, whose faces are visible in the video, performed their "test" in response to persistent rumours that the iPhone 6 Plus was changing …
"A person who without lawful excuse destroys or damages any property belonging to another intending to destroy or damage any such property or being reckless as to whether any such property would be destroyed or damaged shall be guilty of an offence."
Looks like they will be footing the bill.
The phones are there for demonstration purposes and the kids were told the phones couldn't be bent... So they were merely testing the assertion of the sales clerk. Don't see how they could be held liable if they can prove the sales clerk told them the phones couldn't be bent.
If I'm told something can't be bent the first thing I'll do is try to bend it, and I'm sure I'm not alone in that instinct.
"Please tell me you don't work for a postal delivery company, those packages marked "FRAGILE" and "DO NOT BEND" are not challenges!"
looks like your packages are safe with him as long as you don't label them 'INDESTRUCTIBLE', and 'WILL NOT BEND'.
It's the denial of warpage and frangibility that inspires testing, not the admission.
@conel
and the kids were told, in response to a specific question on the subject, that the phones couldn't be bent... So
either:
the kids were merely gaming the assertion of the sales clerk in response to that question.
or:
the kids were actively misinterpreting the interdiction of bending the phones issued by the sales clerk wise to the threat posed by the kids.
HTH/FTFY
Anyway: As ye reap, so shall ye sow
A friend bought a Rolex Oyster that filled with water the first time he popped his hands overboard.
Rolex had it back 3 times before they actually tried fixing it. He had to demand a glass of water very loudly in the shop to demonstrate to the unbelieving arseholes that it did indeed fill with water before it was 200m down,
Road testing can be good when the seller is a little too self confident.
"I kinda miss that guy."
Well, if you live in any metropolitan area, you can probably find someone like him on some random street corner, orating to a (usually) invisible audience.
Not many of them seem to rail against Microsoft in particular, though, I'll give you that.
Whilst not approving of vandalism, if the Apple employee did say that the iPhone could **NOT** be bent then it seems only right and proper that potential customers could validate that claim before making a purchase.
Sounds like just the sort of thing Trading Standards should be doing to protect vulnerable consumers from the over mighty fruity behemoth.
Wrote :- "if the Apple employee did say that the iPhone could **NOT** be bent then it seems only right and proper that potential customers could validate that claim"
I was recently buying a bed with built-in drawers inder it. Such drawers have been getting weaker and weaker over the years (bottoms used to be plywood, then hardboard, now cardboard, paper next?), so I asked the salesman how stong the drawers were.
He said you could stand in them. I was almost tempted to step in, but intead I invited him to step in himself. You never saw a smile vanish so fast from a salesman's face. He didn't, and I didn't buy the bed.
When I buy a waterproof gadget, the first thing I do is dunk test it. When a salesdroid came into work touting rugged tablets, I drop tested it right in front of him to a delightful squeak.
...now, iphones don't claim to be rugged, but they do claim to be phones, and we know how people handle phones. Vewwy woughly. If Apple want to launch the "dress phone", as pretty and delicate as a dress watch, they're welcome, but if it's a regular phone it oughta survive regular phone abuse.
Thin, mostly metal objects are bendy.
Thin, mostly plastic objects are snappy.
I suspect if we thawed out "Ugg" from his ten thousand year slumber he would understand this concept.
This is only a design flaw if the bending or snapping takes place through general expected day to day use; e.g. in your pocket. This still beats it exploding and blowing your cock off though, so progress!
And before the anti apple brigade get all upset, I've never before purchased an apple device for myself (iPads for presents) and don't intend to start now.
It's pretty safe to say that 100% of tablets and phablets will bend or snap, given a little pressure. And perhaps 70% of smart phones, depending on the size and shape.
They'll be saying the screens smash when you drop them from a 23rd story window next. .
"I suspect if we thawed out "Ugg" from his ten thousand year slumber he would understand this concept."
"Hmm, well yes it's nice and shiny, fits the hand well, and I do like those glowing mystical runes appearing on it's surface, but I really can't see it being sharp enough to get the skin off an antelope.
[Produces rock] Now this is a new iKnife with the double-edged scraper as well as the hammer at the blunt end. The obsidian flakes and bits of sapphire are sharp enough to sever a finger.
But only if you're holding it wrong..."
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>>They were no more shatter proof than the cheap chinese rulers you'd get at Poundland
Actually, I think they were better than the cheap ones, but putting "Shatterproof" meant every kid smashing them as hard as they could against things, it took about a year, but they changed the word to "Shatter Resistant" (same font) - true story.
"Hmm, well yes it's nice and shiny, fits the hand well, and I do like those glowing mystical runes appearing on it's surface, but I really can't see it being sharp enough to get the skin off an antelope.
Plus it'll never replace the iHenge. The latest models can caluculate the phases of the moon within minutes, and you need to sacrifice fewer than 5 virgins nowadays. Which is good, what with virgins getting harder and harder to get hold of, now that the youth of today have started this cave-wall networking.
...I dunno in my day we didn't have all this stuff you were happy with a flint and a stick and there was none of this modern rubbish moving bloody great stones around the place and ruining perfectly nice cave walls and where are all the trees I ask you and you don't get sabre toothed tigers like you used to these modern ones take minutes to eat your children rather than gulping them down in one guy and you can't get the druids any more...
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well guess what? my son pressed it.
Similarly, saying it "can't" be bend will only provoke people into trying to bend it.
The statement alone is a challenge in itself, and having some boneheads rising to the occasion is not a real big shocker is it? (i'm just glad it wasn't my son)
Actually, Apple got around to admitting it can be bend ("7 rare cases discovered") but the Apple employee in the store can not tell to anyone that they "can't be bend" or that its "just a rumour" because both obviously are false statements.
Now, if they manage to find a stash of vibranium, who knows what they will come up with..
There is analysis elsewhere that suggests there is a weak spot in the body of the 6 Plus around the volume rocker. I suspect the battery does not provide a lot of structural rigidity in that spot. But kids can't be that strong? And this is a criminal offence, I am sure.
Two points
a) city centre, Norwich is a city, so we say "I go down city yisty" not " I went into town yesterday"
b) it's in the Chapelfield Mall, and the Big Issue sellers are found near the market (I think it used to be said because that are was closer to the train from London)
Perhaps this came about because Norfolk people are inherently suspicious and doubt most things - save that the sun will rise and rain will fall, and NCFC will do both.
Re (a) I've always been told off for this. I'm originally from London - so going 'up to town' means millions of people in a metropolis. Going 'up city' still leaves me wondering where the rest of it is.
That said - completely agree with you otherwise.
Also love the Norwich register readers troop that this thread has revealed.
One upmanship (would use upwomanship but might be misinterpreted}
NR14
Took an old black MacBook back as screen did not work, neither did second screen.
replaced - one at a time - screen, mother board and HDD. Each time got it home it didn't work. Gave me £500 of a new one - It still cost me £350. Luckily the new white one has worked fine.
Please, big issue sellers are outnumbered 10:1 by the moping lovestruck goths milling about in front of the Forum. Honestly I've never wanted to slap people in the face before...but when they stand there sullen face leaning against each other in a semi-hug..I just want to shout "CHEER UP YOU MISERABLE B***ARDS"
It'd be interesting to see the results of these tests after the phone has been warmed up to body temperature. I know it's only about 15 to 20 degrees above ambient and the alloy used is supposed to be tougher than pure aluminium but it could make a significant difference, especially at the weak spots where the side buttons are. Also, I'm pretty sure that most applications will roll or forge the alloy into shape, whereas I think the phones are milled out from a cast block.
I was about 7 or 8, and my Mum was in the local Debenhams, where a sales rep was plugging these clothes protectors, which were like a very plasticised cardboard in a frame, which clipped onto the bottom of your iron. They were supposed to make it easier to iron delicates, and prevent dirt getting on clothes (this is before teflon irons).
One of the selling points was they were "unbreakable". A point the salesman emphasized a little over much, since it prompted my mum to tell him that around me, "nothing was unbreakable".
Cue patronising smile from salesman, and an assurance that these "really were unbreakable", as he smiling handed one to me, and *asked* me to try and break it,.
Two seconds later I handed him it in two pieces, as he gave my mum a free one, and asked her to leave - quickly.
(There was an upturned iron on the side, and I just punched the thing onto the pointy bit. It punctured the material perfectly, at which point the frame collapsed.)
Is this moronic activity any better than walking into a jewellers and using a hammer to smash to the cases and walk out? Hope the Police catch the pair of tossers and get 'em out on community service doing something useful with themselves.
I hold no truck with Apple products but this just mindless damage to someone else's stuff, no artistic or newsworthy merit at all.
"The $1,000 each retail, or the ~$230 each cost to build another one?"
Funny you should mention that.
If you break an item in a shop, accident or otherwise, you have indeed bought it. And if you refuse to pay, the police can be called and will persuade you to pay.
BUT!!!
You are not in any way obliged to pay the marked retail price. Only wholesale price. You are compensating the shop keeper for loss of stock, not loss of a sale. They are not allowed to profit from breakages, or it would be an incentive to pile up crockery in easily knocked displays.
So no.. they can not be forced to pay full retail Just the wholesale price. What that is could be interesting.
Personally, I'd put money on the kids not being charged. Unless Apple can get the sum concealed. A sound talking to by their parents perhaps, but that is about all.
"... if you refuse to pay, the police can be called and will persuade you to pay."
If the shop owner threatens to call the police, call their bluff. This would be considered a civil matter, not a criminal one. If you refuse to pay then their only option to try and reclaim their money would be to sue.
.. when I go laptop shopping, I open a candidate and give the bottom front corners a flex. If it flexes, it's no longer worthy*. Some sales folks look at me oddly at times. Just saying.
*I consciously try not to move/carry open laptops around by their corners - seen too many client laptops with cracked motherboards not to take some caution.
Not so, America has some great cider. For some reason though they call it hard cider. Usually when they say cider they mean apple juice.
I had a few in California and it was surprisingly refreshing, although they didn't understand putting ice in it.It was a shame I was strapped for time as I wanted to pose outside a Cupertino HQ drinking a pint of rough. Maybe next time, for some reason I would like to get moved on by security there.
I am thoroughly disappointed with the iPhone 6. I checked out the Galaxy Edge and it seems like it 'edged' ahead of the new iPhone in regards to innovation. The Galaxy Edge, released to the general public proves that the technology exists to create devices that are not only innovative in terms of screen design but, perhaps paving a new direction that big mobile companies are choosing to go down in the near future. It does also suggest that fully bendable devices or screens haven't been released, as a result of these companies wanting to "savour" the profits over a steady period.
Obviously, the people in the video are rather struck by the idea of a bendy phone or tech device!!