sad but true.....
why anyone would inject or allow the injection, of something with unknown composition or origin is beyond my understanding.
A sting for sure, but a travesty as well...
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A woman described as a high-priced escort by cops has been charged with the manslaughter of a Google executive found dead in his yacht after a heroin overdose. Alix Catherine Tichelman Mug shot ... Alix Catherine Tichelman Alix Catherine Tichelman, 26, was arrested in a sting operation on July 4 in connection with the …
Goethe wrote about this as did Marlowe (himself a spy assassinated in a 'house of recreation' in Deptford) and Ben Jonson.
Where is the modern Wedekind/Berg to write the opera as a cautionary tale?
The tramp: no temptations when you are poor
PS: Can we be careful with the word travesty please?
I stand by my choice of phrase.
Perhaps "sad" covered this specific instance. I somehow think this is only being reported because one of the persons was socially prominent/rich.
The travesty is that unintended drug poisoning/overdose is probably a good deal more common than is generally reported. That is, until the media/govts and big corps want to fund themselves another "war on drugs", rather than treating what is a disturbing medical issue.
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"Assuming this was just a working accident I do feel sorry for her."
I don't. In her profession she'll be familiar with burner phones or pay phones. She could still have left and called an ambulance to the boat, where they might have been able to revive him.
Accidents happen. It's how we behave afterwards that define our character.
"He was a philanderer, and she is a whore."
And you are a saint, I presume. But only by the press of the circumstances, no doubt.
Give you a yacht and some spare cash and it will be interesting just how long your impeccable morality will endure...
If your slate is clean, and all that, you know....
"If she'd called an ambulance and they'd been able to revive him, he could have identified her, although as a drug supplier and cause of injury, rather than a killer; still enough to scare her off calling."
As she'd have saved his life, I doubt very much that he'd have been willing to tell the police that he OD'd in the company of a working girl half his wifes age. Much more likely is that he'd keep schtum and say nothing, that way all he has to do is seek rehab for drugs (to which he was likely never addicted), and his career and marriage would have been safe.
Or he could have made a fuss and had her nicked, which would likely have ended his career as well as his marriage.
Police and wives are not so stupid... unless the latter is more interested in his money than anything else....
Emergency calls are recorded, and of course if she had called it would have been quite clear there was a woman with him.
Nor expect a whore cares much about her "customers" especially if she has a long list to choose from. If she also drank the wine it's pretty clear she didn't care at all but to disappear. And if she was actually paid to kill him, maybe by his wife tired of being married to such kind of man?
> Nor expect a whore cares much about her "customers"
A "whore" cares about her customers (and please see that you place those quotes correctly next time) the same as any other person having to deal intimately with people (health practitioners, bespoke tailors, etc.) Some may be pretty shit at it, others will go the extra mile. Of course, a great deal also depends on the customer's own demeanour.
By way of anecdote, a former colleague of mine (an airline pilot) was at one time posted to Madrid, and living in a neighbourhood of questionable repute. A group of prostitutes used to do business on the street outside his flat. He was always courteous to them, greeted them on the way in and out, and on cold winter nights would give them spare change for a coffee. Arriving late one night, he had a dispute with the cabbie as he tried to rip him off on the fare (what a surprise) and who then attempted to mug my foreign colleague. Upon seeing this, the pimp approached the taxi and had a quick word of advice with the driver to the effect that his health might suffer were he to be seen again in the area.
This, my fellow poster, is just one reason why you should never look down on anyone, no matter their station in life.
I can understand her not staying with the dying guy, but she could have at the very least made an anonymous phone call from the docks or the town. He may still have died, but there's the chance he might not have. This, coupled with the fact that she's possibly been involved in another "john" heroin death in the past makes it a bit difficult for me to feel sympathetic towards her.
There's no information as to whether he asked her for the heroin or whether she provided and convinced the guy to take it, or even whether or not it was his first time. But involving dangerous hard drugs in your work, call girl or not, is asking for trouble.
FIrearms are legal and they still kill. If drugs were legal maybe the news would have been he had killed someone under their influence - you get drugs because they alter your perception of the world, not because they have a good taste.
Divorce and having sex outside marriage *is* legal and still someone needs to hide from the wife he chosed while paying prostitutes and getting drugs.
If he wasn't an hypocrite maybe he would be still alive.
> Not in civilised countries, except for the armed services of course.
I think you are misinformed. If you look at firearms regulations in Europe, you will find that some countries have extremely liberal (which does not equal to irresponsible) gun laws--more so than in some places in the US.
It all depends on whether you consider Europe civilised, mind. Nowadays, the opinion can be quite divided on that point.
"If prostitution were legal and there were no drugs prohibition this story would probably never have ended in tragedy, so chalk another one up to 'The Justice System'."
I'm all for sex and drugs, but if prostitution and drugs were legal, then more people would die like this. It's the price of those freedoms.
And even the most pro-drug liberal tends to baulk at legalising skank: It's a highly addictive killer which is supplied by a long chain of international criminal gangs, terminating with the Taliban.
> And even the most pro-drug liberal tends to baulk at legalising skank: It's a highly addictive killer which is supplied by a long chain of international criminal gangs, terminating with the Taliban.
I advocate legalizing it because a) this would utterly gut the organized crime aspect, b) people like Syngenta and Phillip Morris have probably already supercrops ready roll the day it happens and that means c) oh look, no more money for the Afghan warlords, what a bugger.
(Note - a large part of what makes the Taliban exactly what they are is that local peasants hate them. Why? Not just the religious totalitarianism but also the rampant and wholesale burning of poppy crops, thus robbing those peasants of their only viable income. Me, I say when the armed forces were out there we should have done a deal and bought the whole damn lot at a pittance, but a considerably larger pittance than the one they currently get. Boom! Instant adoration of 90% of Afghans and a stable Afghan economy, meaning end to religious whackjobs and happy people don't start wars. Of course, the yanks would have shat themselves but fuck 'em).
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Not cold, just a sad side effect of keeping the activities she engaged in a criminal act. In (more civilized) countries that decriminalized both, she might have called for help and the poor sod might be alive.
As is, she just had to weight potential manslaughter + more vs certain conviction on prostitution and drug charges. Loss-loss anyway you look at it so taking uncertain vs certain becomes the rational choice when this version of fight-flight takes place.
Pretty much illustrates that, once more, the "war on x" only hurts people and helps no one. Well, might help the guys making billions out of dealing drugs, and maybe that's why it keeps being illegal...
One would think we'd remember how Prohibition only helped THE MOB and how the end of the world didn't come to pass when it was repealed...
"Life is great. I am seriously blessed as a motherf****r. A great boyfriend, nice house, monkeys, loving family ... doesn't get any better than this I don't think."
Seriously - there really hasn't been enough discussion in this comments section about the monkeys.
I am trying to get my head round this new version of the American Dream. One day, boys and girls, if you work hard, you can grow up to have a great house, a loving partner, cute kids ... and some monkeys.
It's what we're all working for isn't it?
Excuse me but in what world is this old slapper a high priced escort?
The Google exec has obviously put his todger where I would not put the point of my baionnette <sic>. I should think that his search engine is sub optimised if this is what he gets when he looks for "uma Puta".
>>"Excuse me but in what world is this old slapper a high priced escort?"
Come on - let's have a photograph of you. Ideally one taken shortly after arrest by a police photographer. We'll see how you compare.
Seriously? "Old slapper?" What is it compels some guys to tell everyone how some woman is below their lofty standards the moment they're granted online anonymity?
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Piocture irrelevant to description.
"Seriously? "Old slapper?" What is it compels some guys to tell everyone how some woman is below their lofty standards the moment they're granted online anonymity"
Not anonymous at all my name is as is and it is a name I have used for years and was known as it on Usenet back in the late 80's
My lofty standards?
Prostitute.
Drug Addict
Watched a man die and did not offer help.
Stood over his dying body and drank wine.
Cheated on her partner.
The list goes on.
Ok, I am sorry my description was not correct, I should have said dirty slapper.
I am entitled to my opinions and will not kow tow to politically correct rubbish from an 'anon' such as yourself. My comments stand and were not made lightly, its is not a female thing and any bloke doing the same thing would have the same treatment from me.
Opinions are like arseholes, we all have them and very few bear close inspection.
"According to the cops, Hayes, who was seemingly happily married for 17 years and had five children, had a "prostitution relationship" with Tichelman – whom he met via the website SeekingArrangements.com, which matches up "Sugar Daddies" with "Sugar Babies.""
Seemingly being the significant word there. And if he was out there actively looking for and paying for whores who's to say he wasn't also into recreational drug use?
If one thing (his marriage) isn't what it seems then it's not too much of a stretch to wonder whether other things weren't as they seem.
> What, a security camera recording wasn't enough for them?
Enough for what? The police's job is to apprehend suspects, which are then put on trial where a judge and/or a jury will establish guilt based on lawfully obtained evidence.
In terms of "lawfully obtained", a security camera recording has much less weight as evidence than the general public tend to think, due to the technical and procedural aspects of collecting, assessing, and maintaining continuity of said evidence.
For example, if you as a forensic technician are given a disc with let's say 24 hours of CCTV video, and your court warrant says to look for evidence of murder at between X and Y hours, you jump to that part of the video--you are not allowed to watch the rest of it and you must not report on it unless given a new warrant, and then you look for evidence of murder (and not anything else) between X and Y hours.
The details vary quite a bit from one jurisdiction to another, but the above is an actual example from a continental European case. I trained on computer forensics, but I have no practical experience, btw.
Let's say you have the perfect mug-shot of the suspect (which you're not likely to gain from a typical relatively-low-res security camera). Now what?
You have tens of thousands of people in the vicinity that might match the general description, so now you have to find pictures of all of them to compare your grainy pic to. Or you have to walk the streets asking people "Have you seen this woman?".
Much easier to go through the phone records, find the likely suspect, and then compare her face to the one in the photograph.