So long, 'invincible dreamers': Google+ daddy Gundotra resigns Vic Gundotra, the Google senior vice president best known for creating Google+, is leaving the Chocolate Factory after nearly eight years on the job. Predictably, perhaps, Gundotra announced his departure in a bittersweet post to his personal Google+ page, in which he thanked the team that helped build Mountain View's not- …
Let's hope whoever comes in next isn't so much of a dick about trying to shoe-horn everybody onto Google Fucking Minus just to rate an Android app or leave a comment on your own fucking Youtube video.
How's that integration going at getting rid of the Youtube trolls? Or the fake app ratings? Or any-fucking-thing?
Door. Don't let it smack you in the arse.
(now a happy Vimeo/DailyMotion user)
ERM yes you do.
And you don't need your real name. Call yourself "John Smith", and Google Minus has no fucking idea how to verify that. Yes, you do need a Minus account in order to leave Youtube comments, even on your own fucking videos in your own fucking channel, or to rate or review Android apps.
Are you seriously claiming the Google Minus bullshit on Youtube has stopped even one iota of one percent of the "lameness" in Youtube comments? Or that it has stopped any of the fake, idiotic or just downright wrong reviews on the Play Store? Open your eyes.
"The moment someone uses foul language can mean one or more of the following three :"
Alternatively it can mean that the they have a colourful vocabulary and they feel strongly about the matter. But I daresay you'll agree that those who complain about other people's uncouth language in this forum are:
1. Lacking in moral fibre
2. Barking up the wrong tree
3. Rather intolerant, unless the language is actually directed at them.
Scurrilous vagabond! I find your deleterious insinuations both haughty and contemptuous. Your vapid and irrational comments lead me to believe that your lineage could be none other than a cockferret for a father and a cuntweasel for a mother! Perhaps it is worth the application of effort to steer your course away from the seemingly inevitable douchepocalypse and towards a glorious nerd-calming fuckfest of personality-altering proportions.
May you find peace and the chance to chill. ---> Beer, because it's Friday.
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I'm guessing a bit of spin was used. A user's G- account is linked in to Youtube/Gmail/a Google user profile and so on. For someone to be 'active' for the purposes of propaganda, they'd only have to be 'active' in that they use Youtube/google search/Gmail, not necessarily G-.
I've had to work with marketing weasels long enough to figure out how they lie.
Google+ had a larger active userbase than Twitter LONG before the shared sign-in. (and that's all it is, a shared sign in).
Active users are counted as active Google+ users ONLY if they do active things, (share their Youtube comment with Google+ stream for example - something that's unticked by default).
I don't know how many billions Google+ has cost, but it hasn't been cheap -- and it's pure, unadulterated, manure. Few things have tarnished Google's image like the increasingly desperate attempts to force users to use Google+.
Of course, Gundotra leaving doesn't mean Google will back off shoehorning people into Google+ any more than Ballmer & Sinofsky leaving Microsoft meant Microsoft backing off TIFKAM and Windows Live. It just means that Google wants new fresh ideas on how to make people hate Google+ less.
He's not so much leaving as being shown the door because Google+ isn't that great. They were a day late and a dollar short getting into the game and it shows. There has to be a scapegoat in every disaster, he got picked. There are probably some good uses for +, but I haven't found any yet, and as much as people gripe about facebook et al, it's just a watered down version of social media.
Cheers because it's Friday.
> The quality of content on Google plus is vastly superior to Facebook drivel.
that may be, but the problem is that I'm not interested in either, but Google forces me to use Google+ even though I just want to save a list of my favorite metal videos on Youtube.
Thought I'd like to record a thanks for gplus. It means I can easily decide which circles see which posts, which means I can bore my family with pics of the kids, but save my friends from seeing them.
Also, gplus seems to be the go to means for techies to share posts and discuss technology subjects. Being able to subscribe to a circle for, say, Drupal, JavaScript discussions is really useful.
Gplus is great for those who can use it effectively.
... and have a use for it. I know of lots of things that are very good at achieving what they're designed to do; that doesn't mean having one would be "great for" me.
But as usual, many fans of technology X seem to find it difficult to grasp the idea that not everyone wants technology X, regardless of how well it works.
Love it too. It's far more engaging that Facebook, the quality of content is far higher, it's not got the rubbish 160 char limit of Twitter, or the plebs and constant adverts of Facebook,
Google+ features all hang together in a sensible way and nothing feels like an afterthought,
And like you say, the circle mentality is how people work in real life, so is a natual fit for how you would want a social network to work.
That said, Google+ isn't really a social network like Facebook or Twitter. Anyone that thinks it is, has totally missed the point.
Try searching for subjects you're interested in then add a few people to your circle. Make comments and join in with discussions. You know, like in real life. Try posting something that interests you. Keep it up for a few weeks and see where you get.
Usenet, without the lightweight protocol and interface?
After all the negative comments about G+, it is nice to see someone write something positive about it
http://www.amandablain.com/google-plus-ghost-town/
Out of my friends Facebook tends to be full of people wanting to send game invites and random comments on what they had for lunch. Where as Google Plus tends to be for more interesting posts and comments.
That's my experience of it too. Had a decent chat with Robert Llewellyn (from Red Dwarf and others programs) on G+, he always engages with people that engage with him. There are plenty of other smart people on there that have avoided the Facebook drivel and Twitter Celeb tweet paths.
I agree facebook is full of mostly drivel, but when signing up to G+ my wife found just 3 people she knew on there. We have mostly the same friends so I didn't bother. We check occasionally to see if anyone else turns up, but nope. It's unfortunate, as I think I prefer the interface. But most of the friends I want to communicate with on social media are uni types, since spread across the country, and only a handful of them are techies. Some of them even think facebook *is* the internet, and communicate in no other way :(
Facebook is like a family get together. I finally succumbed to opening a Fb account last year so I can sync Candy Crush progress on difference devices. Have kept away from the "family get together" because I know the kind of posts being made there.
Google+ is like being at a party. You could stand in a corner trying to look cool/sad or you could go up to strangers and strike a conversation. When I first started on G+ many years ago, the first few months was like an echo chamber. I made public posts after public posts until one of my post caught the attention of someone in Southern California. They then added me to their circle. I then saw posts from their extended circles and strike up more connections. For some reason I have over 1500 people, from all reaches of the globe, following me but I only follow about 300.
Like in real life if you don't have anything interesting to say or share then people won't be interested in listening.
Why are most of the pro-Google+ testimonials anonymous?
I've described G+ as like going to a nightclub before 9pm: there's lots of space, but there's hardly anyone there, and they're all men.
I had a G+ account, but none of my friends, bar one, uses (or even joined) the service. I've a lot of "techie" and "non-techie" friends, and not one of the latter group uses G+; it's just not attractive to them - whether it's the google brand, or (more likely) the fact that "everyone's on Facebook/Twitter/Instagram anyway". The one friend I have who regularly uses G+, I meet regularly enough that I don't need to see his G+ feed.
... So late last year I deleted ("downgraded" in Google-speak) my account.
Just now, I logged into gMail, saw the "+ YourName" button there, and when I clicked it I found that my former G+ profile has been reinstated with all previous settings in place. Well it's certainly one way of boosting signups, I suppose...
(I don't own an Android device, and have never posted on YouTube, so it's not that)
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