I'm guessing the only reasons he's on about it is that the fucker stepped on one while going to the loo in the middle of night. In those cases, yeah, Lego is the work the devil. Or, in the contest of "small things giving much pain", at least Australian.
Lego is the TOOL OF SATAN, thunders Polish priest
Lego has changed, according to a Polish priest, who has warned that newer sets of the popular Danish toy are actually tools of Satan that can destroy children's souls. Lego Monster Fighters Lord Vampyre The sweet yellow bricks of yesteryear are no more, apparently, now that Lego has started producing series of minifigs like …
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Friday 4th April 2014 09:58 GMT Michael Habel
Didn't KotOR allow you to play the baddies?
No not unless they changed it after the first Game. Having played the first Game you'd be given Story driven choices that either pushed you to be a super white Jedi, or fall back on being very dark Sith Lord that manages to rule the entire Galaxy again....
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 08:59 GMT Parax
re: waiting for a game where I get to play the villain
Did you miss Evil Genius?
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 11:39 GMT Peter Simpson 1
Re: In the dark, bare feet
As a teen, I developed my own film. Working in the darkroom is a super way to learn obstacle-avoidance skills which have served me well throughout my life.
Mostly. The downside is that the extra confidence causes me to move decisively, rather than tentatively, and the few toe/obstacle collisions that do occur are consequently at high speed.
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 05:50 GMT Mark 85
I guess it's official
A university study (who the hell pays for this crap) and a Catholic priest are bad-mouthing Lego.
On the bright side, it wasn't Playmobile or it would be certain that when LOHAN takes off, every country would have an interceptor ready to shoot it down lest it infect the countryside.
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 09:06 GMT Sir Runcible Spoon
Re: I guess it's official
After all the shit that catholic priests and nuns have been up to for the last X number of years I think they are probably very highly qualified to judge whether something is evil or not. After all, they have so much experience.
Whenever I read about all the harm they've done over the years, I really, really, really do hope there is a hell waiting for them.
Catholic priests & nuns -> (see icon)
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 20:53 GMT Sir Runcible Spoon
@Mage
I'm not quite sure what you're driving at here Mage. For sure there are lots of people out there that do a lot worse than catholic priests and nuns.
However that doesn't make what some of these evil bastards have done any better.
Molesting children and systematically covering it up at an instutional level.
Using children as unpaid slaves, stealing their children and selling them to wealthy Americans.
That's just the Irish one's that I've heard about - God knows what the rest of the get up to (at least I hope he does).
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Friday 4th April 2014 10:10 GMT Michael Habel
Re: I guess it's official
Not as much as people who are not Priests and Nuns actually. Humans are the problem.
Adult Humans... With imaginary friends, that are always whispering into their ears, about how wonderful it would be to rid the World of all the Sinners.*
*Sinners here being anyone that refuses to _think_ like them.... So do any of these cats even use Apple stuff? I'd have thought that _Thinking differently_ would be activity to be shunned by those types?
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 06:21 GMT Vladimir Plouzhnikov
Where are the values?
I agree with the priest - all filth and nothing for the soul. Where are the four Horsemen? Where are David and Goliath, where are the female role characters (Delilah)? Why can't the children play with destruction of Sodom and Gonorrhea? Hmmm, there is something not quite right with the last one, but it passed the spell checker, so it must be OK...
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Friday 4th April 2014 08:39 GMT Lapun Mankimasta
Re: Where are the values?
Where are the four Horsemen?
Or, in the immortal words of one schoolboy (forever anonymous, thank $DETY from whom all blessing flow), "Where are the four whoresmen?" (He was of the opinion that the reason Cromwell won over King Chuck was that his soldiers were better whoresmen than King Chuck's own, even to eating their meals on whoresback. Now if King Chuck had been named King Liquid Laugh or King Technicolour Yawn instead, he might have won that war ... )
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 07:20 GMT jake
When I were a lad ...
Lego was a "build it & break it" toy ... Am I the only one who built a floor-to-ceiling castle in the living-room (base roughly 24" square, spire tapered from 6" to as small as possible), tied the middle of the tower to the front door-knob, and laughed my ass off when Dad came home for lunch & destroyed the entire thing?
Rebuilt it the next day. Dad came in the back door. Lesson learned.
Me. Age five.
I still have the blocks. My younger nieces & nephews enjoy playing with my late '50s/early '60s collection.
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Friday 4th April 2014 18:07 GMT Intractable Potsherd
Re: When I were a lad ...
Not castles, but large spaceships that I would "land" in a Gerry Anderson-esque fashion (sort of belly-flopping, losing large amounts of material as it slid across the floor and into the wall*). I gave myself points if the only intact structure when it came to a halt was where the important members of the crew would sit.
*All sorts of trouble from dad for the dents and gouges in my bedroom wall!
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 09:00 GMT Crazy Operations Guy
Re: " toughest substance in the known universe"
Indeed, a few months ago I helped my parents with their garden and unearthed a Lego from when they were kids (about 45 years). It was even in near-pristine condition, especially compared to the nearly-disintegrated plastic bucket that we also found that was from a mere 15 years ago. Seriously, what the hell are the made of? I think they will still be around even after the heat-death of the universe.
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 10:20 GMT Peter Gathercole
Re: " toughest substance in the known universe"
The early Lego bricks were almost exclusively just red and white, no yellow, black or grey. The bases were a cream colour, and instead of a circle pattern to lock the 'knobs' of the bricks in, used to have square holes in the bottom that the 'knobs' would fit in. Additionally, the 2x1, 6x1 and 10x1 narrow bricks would not have pins to help hold them on, but had cross-wise narrow divisions to help keep the sides in enough to grab the knobs of the lower bricks. It did not work as well, and often a complex model would be difficult to build because it just would not lock together.
The plastic of Lego from 50 years ago is different to modern bricks, and I think it was a styrene based plastic, and a bit brittle (yes, I am talking real Lego here, not the Betta Bilda and like copies, which we also had). Consequently, it would break on occasion. My older brother and I used to build models, and then use the spring powered suction dart guns (with the suckers removed - never be allowed these days) to 'blow' the models up, in scenes reminiscent of Stingray and Thunderbirds. Every now and then, we would break a brick. (Side note. In the film Thunderbirds Are Go, some of the houses that Zero-X crashes into are clearly made from Lego if you frame step the DVD!)
There used to be completely different windows and doors, with glazing in as well. I remember the garage bases with up-and-over doors, which were the right size to allow you to build a garage for a Matchbox sized car. The garage door auto-opened (it was weighted) and was held down by a flap that caught the bottom of the door. 'Drive' a car up, and over the flap to press it down, and the door would open. Push the car in, and close the door, and then trigger the door, and the car would roll out because it parked on a shallow ramp that formed the base of the garage.
Originally, the roof bricks were steep, almost 45 degrees so that a 2x4 roof brick had 1x4 knobs on the top to allow you to build the roof.
There also were wheel bricks, with wheels with rubber tyres (originally white/beige, but replaced quite quickly with black tyres) that had metal pins that would push into the wheel brick. If you stood on on one of the wheels which was pin-up, you really know about that! This was extended to train tracks and special flanged wheels (we originally used the wheels with the tyres taken off), complete with electric motors.
Things started getting different in about 1968, with different plastic, curved bricks, and specialist fence, trees, flowers and less steeply raked roof bricks, with additional colours and clear bricks, different plastic, and more brick sizes. And then they introduced models with special parts made only for a particular model, which would always go missing. People started building the models and leaving them built, rather than using their own imagination.
My youngest son, who is 18, has his complete lifetime's worth of bricks from special models (he's a real Lego fiend). We've just done a tidy and consolidation, and we have many thousands of bricks, filling all the drawers of a desk, along with storage tubs of the more common bricks, and glass coffee jars for the more specialist bricks. I don't reckon he could make any of the models up now, but he has vowed to find all the bits for the X-Wing kit he had! We may have to go to the Lego site and order a piece or two (yes, they sell single bricks from almost everything they've done in the last 20 years, but they tend to be expensive). They will even print on bricks (particularly body parts) from your own design if you are prepared to pay for it!
And I'm about to take ownership of the remains of my Lego set from the 60's from my father.
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 14:15 GMT BoldMan
Re: " toughest substance in the known universe"
Lego from 50 years ago? Pah a mere stripling... Meccano is still compatible with the first edition put out by Frank Hornby "Mechanics Made Easy" in 1898! In my collection I've got plates and girders going back to the 20s and 30s that still look superb.
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 16:44 GMT Peter Gathercole
Re: " toughest substance in the known universe"
Yeah, had Meccano as well, but I really did not like the square nuts that had sharp poorly formed corners that would scratch the enamel off the coloured metal panels (that probably puts a date on the sets, as more recent Meccano had hex. nuts). Never had an electric motor, but did have the clockwork motor. This was really my older brother's, not mine.
I moved on to building control-line aircraft instead of building things from Meccano!
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 20:09 GMT MacroRodent
Re: " toughest substance in the known universe"
You neatly described how I also see the Lego evolution. My son has around 1000x times the number of Lego parts I had at his 8 years of age (yeah we Finns have got richer...), but it is harder to use them for own designs, since most come from different disintegrated StarWars, Space Police, Kingdoms etc. etc. sets with too many special types of parts. Even if you find more than 2 of the same shape, they are of different colour... The old limited palette reduced this problem.
I still have my box of various old school Legos, but left intentionally at my parents house. It is delightful to see what happens when the modern kids (my son and his cousins) get their hands on these mostly generic parts that do not carry any message about what you should build from them. The only specialty is the old Lego railway system with the discrete rail and tie parts. But even there the isolated rails can act in other designs as rods etc. It is really sad it has been discontinued.
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 07:40 GMT Pen-y-gors
He has a point - sort of...
One of the joys of Lego in the early days was that it encouraged imagination. Using basic building blocks you could create anything. Then they started bringing out special pieces and sets and it became just another one-use toy, or at best a jigsaw - build whatever is on the box. These figures are the same - kids don't really need a Lord Vampyre figure - if they want to pretend they're fighting the dark lord from their spaceship then they should be able to take a nice friendly smiling 'Mr Bun the Baker' (or whatever) figure and PRETEND he's a mega-vampyre.
All these specialist bits are just a way to extract more money out of kids and their parents.
Obviously Playmobil doesn't count...
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 08:39 GMT DropBear
Re: He has a point - sort of...
they should be able to take a nice friendly smiling 'Mr Bun the Baker' (or whatever) figure and PRETEND he's a mega-vampyre
Spot on - back in the day we were quite happy to use 2-4-2 brick stacks as a rudimentary human figure - never stopped any of the fun, they were completely general purpose and you could never really run out of them...
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 11:02 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Using basic building blocks you could create anything...
Oh for Frith's sake, have today's comments been taken over by an army of James Mays? That Built-Of-Lots-Of-Colours (BOLOCS) doesn't wash with any kid over five.
I suppose back in your day you had to pretend that a slab of red and blue bits was the Millenium Falcon right up to the age of 12, instead of the officially licensed sets you can buy now that wipe the floor with the sales figures of any other toy you can imagine.
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 11:23 GMT Omgwtfbbqtime
Re: Using basic building blocks you could create anything...
Just a pity the Millenium Falcon kit really is pants compared to the display one at Legoland (19,800 pieces ffs!).
However given the Death Star is a little over 3,000 pieces for £300, its probably just as well it's not available as a shipping crate.
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 11:36 GMT Santa from Exeter
Re: Using basic building blocks you could create anything...
@Joefish
Back in my day the Millenuim Falcon wasn't around when I was 12, and I didn't have a handy TARDIS to travel to now to buy the overpriced crappy licenced tat.
I was perfectly happy with 'basic' Lego bricks until progressing on to Meccano at around age 12.
I then had endless fun building 'unrealistic' vehicles and (once I had my pride and joy - a Mammod static engine) ferris wheels and all sorts that included sharp edged Meccano fron the 30's bought in jumble sales.
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 12:47 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Using basic building blocks you could create anything...
@ 'Santa from Exeter'
So, in what way are you NOT James May? This 'Meccano-was-amazing' fantasy is just another aspect of the whole "wasn't life great when we were all half-starved and they were dropping bombs on us" school of reminiscing. What next, bring back those childhood joys of power cuts; kicking white dog-shit down the street; maybe a bit of cholera too? Kids today don't know what they're missing.
I hate to break it to you like this, but the past really isn't better than the present (and that applies to LEGO as much as anything) - what really changed is, you let yourself get OLD!
Now go and buy some proper LEGO. The latest Octan race car is particularly good. And go and see the movie. Then buy some more. Meccano? Seriously? You really wish that on kids today?
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 07:45 GMT adnim
Proof that God exists
To bring about Armageddon what could be better that instigating the creation of dozens of diametrically opposed religions with a fundamental tenant of each being that it be the only true religion and that all others must fall?
Satan therefore exists because God is good and would never do such a thing. Only the Devil would create such a situation where humankind murders each other in the name of a religion. Ipso facto God exists.
Now that that has been cleared up, Lego the tool of Satan destroying children's souls? The only thing Satanic about Lego is the price.
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 13:51 GMT Flocke Kroes
Perhaps not
The the register linked to a Polish article that links to:
http://www.se.pl/wydarzenia/kraj/szatan-czai-sie-wszedzie-klocki-lego-kucyk-pony-i-hello-kitty-gdzie-jeszcze_389274.html
At the end of that article it says: Publikacja: 31.03.2014 13:42 Aktualizacja: 01.04.2014 14:04
That was sufficiently ambiguous that I decided to look more carefully. Web searches on Slawomir Kostrzewa mostly show articles in English dated second of April with a few dated the first. By chance, I noticed his name is really Sławomir Kostrzewa. Most of the links go to unrelated people with one of those names, but on the second page, there is this:
http://www.fronda.pl/a/ks-slawomir-kostrzewa-diably-staly-sie-modne-i-swietnie-sie-sprzedaja,31423.html
Google translate tells me Sławomir thinks modern popular culture makes young girls act like necro-vamps or prostitutes. The date at the bottom is 21.10.2013
I would expect a loud mouth like this to have more form, but perhaps there are more entertaining loons in Poland keeping him out of the news.
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 09:09 GMT Elmer Phud
Pole polisher?
Years ago, my nippers never had the delights of these modern Lego sets and characters.
Not only that but no-one ever brought toy guns for my two girls but that never stopped them from making all sorts od ordnance from Lego bricks.
My youngest (butter wouldn't melt etc.) used to build rooms in Sims, have a wall full of fireplaces, fill the rest of the room with sofas then put a few Sims in and remove the door. That's when she wasn't building swimming pools, filliing them with childen and removing the steps. It was such a small step form discovering how much fun it was to takeaway the toilets.
Nowadays, she's still the mild-mannered, thoughtful, kind peaceful person but also one of the nastiest, most viscious mass-killers on WoW I've ever seen.
Mr Priest -- yer too late.
And anyway, I've seen small kids have gun fights using teddy bears as pretend guns.
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 10:27 GMT Spleen
Re: Pole polisher?
"My youngest (butter wouldn't melt etc.) used to build rooms in Sims, have a wall full of fireplaces, fill the rest of the room with sofas then put a few Sims in and remove the door"
The second most fun you can have in a simulation game, next to building a "powered-launch" coaster in RollerCoaster Tycoon that flung everyone off a hill to an explosive death. I seem to remember that if you made your deathtrap too obvious (e.g. just a launch and a short ramp) the guests would refuse to go on it. But if you made it look like a proper coaster and that final hill was just a bit too short... then you are become Death.
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Friday 4th April 2014 08:47 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Pole polisher?
"Nowadays, she's still the mild-mannered, thoughtful, kind peaceful person but also one of the nastiest, most viscious mass-killers on WoW I've ever seen."
This is one of the major benefits of the internet and online gaming... the ability to commit heinous atrocities without any real world consequence. Whether its mass slaughter of murlocs in WoW or the genocide of entire races in Mass Effect, it can be a very good way of finding some carthartic release after a hard day!
The fact that I can go home in the evening and spend an hour or two venting my frustration at all the idiots who've irritated me during the course of a day at work by imagining they're my targets as I brutally and repeatedly kill people in online games is one of the reasons I've managed not to actually kill anybody in real life... so far, at least...
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 13:06 GMT Nick Ryan
Re: Obviously.
Exactly my thoughts on this. Statistics, lies and damn statistics.
I remember wishing that they had other expressions other than "gormless grin" or that there was a difference between male and female faces. The enterprising among us got hold of marker pens and draw faces on (aka mauled with a marker) the reverse of the head to give us some variety.
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 12:14 GMT Anonymous Coward
Theocracy.
Poland is a very devoutly Catholic country. You can tell that by simply looking at the pictures posted in the Polish Wikipedia. There are usually two pictures of large old churches or cathedrals in it per week--sometimes every day. What I did not realize is that the Catholic clergy can be as irrational as the Baptist or Pentacostal clergy. This fellow has shown me the light.
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 12:38 GMT conan
I think this is important
I actually agree with the priest. Not about the evil, but I don't like the fact that different lego sets are now "for" a particular demographic. Sure, when I was a kid all I wanted were spaceship sets, but once the pieces I got were all thrown in a box, there was nothing to suggest a spaceship as opposed to, say, a barn.
This is worst in the case of girls vs boys, where some sets are based around fighting and presumably aimed at boys (http://www.lego.com/en-gb/ninjago?icmp=COUKFRNinjago), and some around socialising, again presumably for girls (http://friends.lego.com/en-gb?icmp=COUKFRFriends). The colour schemes broadly follow the blue/pink zeigeist for distinguishing gender. If a boy picks up his sister's Lego set today, I'm guessing he's much less likely to be interested than 30 years ago. For a toy which by its nature appeals only to creativity and imagination, I think imposing these sorts of limitations is a real shame - and is driven by adults who do the purchasing, because the kids have shown time and time again that they don't care until they're told to.
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 13:15 GMT Nick Ryan
Re: I think this is important
While I agree that there is now more obvious gender targetting of lego, to a large part this always the case. The "city" lego was usually shown pictures with girls and boys. The "space" lego was usually shown with pictures of boys. The rather older "house" lego (where you built rooms and had articulated characters) was usually shown with girls.
However dump all the pieces in a box and they become the building blocks that a much wider variety of things can be built of - but that's the enduring beauty of lego, what you can do with it. The more specific the piece then usually the less options for re-use there are but even this encourages creativity - want a satellite dish for the side of a house but don't have one, use a water character's "tray" instead.. want a downlighter for a light but don't have one, use a satellite dish... and so on.
The interesting thing about the blue = boy, pink = girl colour gender assignment is that this is a relatively recent assignment; It used to be the other way around. It's also interesting to note that it wasn't that long ago that up until a reasonable age boys and girls were dressed near identically.
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 14:58 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: I think this is important
You're forgetting the answer to one simple question - who has the biggest clout and influence; who buys by far the most LEGO from the LEGO company? And the asnswer is ... Toys'R'Us. Parents buy LEGO from a toy shop.
It's called marketing. That, legal professionals, and catholic priests - you can work out your own order for the lowest circles of hell for that lot.
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 12:59 GMT Flakey
If He's That Bothered
maybe he should contact Lego and get them to roll out a Lego "Jesus" set. Just think of the fun he could have: Lego Last Supper with his disciples, the arrest and questioning of Lego Jesus by Lego Pontius Pilate, a Lego cross complete with crown of thorns and to top it off, a resurrected Lego Jesus, all angelic. On second thoughts I think I might contact Lego with this idea
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 13:31 GMT Jason Bloomberg
Re: If He's That Bothered
I do like the idea of a "Jesus" set but then there's that difficult question of how Commander J marshals the Battle Nuns when they go fight Action Man Giganticus. Do they go with the Pirates in the Space Galleon, ride on the back of Tommy 'Tank' Tortoise, or glide in on Hudl One?
Darned kids and their ridiculous imaginations.
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 13:58 GMT Stevie
Bah!
Was this Lego Face Study paid for out of the academics' pockets, or did they get public funding for this moronic waste of time?
Seriously, some stern letters should be going out right now from higher educational institutions demanding the return of Degree Certificates for making "educated" people look stupid again.
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 17:03 GMT Frumious Bandersnatch
bowdlerisation
In my day, when Humpty Dumpty cracked his shell, not even all the king's horses and all the king's men could put him back together again. The big bad wolf ate Little Red Riding Hood, and even in a tale with a happy ending (Hansel and Gretel), the witch gets burned alive in her own oven. We also played Cowboys and Indians and Cops and Robbers. Nowadays, Humpty Dumpty can be rebuilt, the huntsman saves Little Red Riding Hood (or maybe the wolf only came for tea) and Hansel and Gretel would have been adopted by the kindly witch.
What is this world coming to?
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Thursday 3rd April 2014 19:50 GMT mad_dr
How about a Reg readers' suggestion thread...
...for the most inappropriate idea for a themed Lego kit? If we get enough ideas, perhaps we can petition Lego to put it into production (or perhaps not).
I'd like to see:
Inglourious Basterds Farmhouse set (Complete with removable floorboards, milk jug, pipe, etc.)
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Friday 4th April 2014 09:04 GMT Lapun Mankimasta
At the very least, he could use the ingenious suggestion from some Perl hackers of a few years ago, and:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/comp.sources.misc/FZqNSnP2s8Q/ZvsZ-9GqcJoJ
XThe name suits the program, in our opinion. If you don't like it,
Xfeel free to call it "SANTA", which is, perhaps, a more user-friendly
Xanagram of the acronym - you can run the repent program if you are
Xreally offended.
Just repent.pl with all your heart, or your bowels of compassion if necessary, and all these Satanic faces become Santaic faces.
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Monday 14th April 2014 08:15 GMT po
You may laugh but...
It's easy to mock the good bishop, but remember how all those religious groups that warned against the evils of D&D back in the eighties were proved right by the massive upswing in serial killings, the opening of the hell mouths over Washington, London and Paris, and the plague of demonspawn? Lego are toying with dark forces here.