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At the 5G@Europe Summit on Monday, Brussels networking czar Thibaut Kleiner said that Europe will "lead" the way with 5G, and that this will mean growth in the IT sector and the economy at large. The Munich event was heavily sponsored by Huawei and while panel members included representatives from French telecom and networking …


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  1. Pete 2 Silver badge

    Build a Better Botnet

    > Kleiner predicts 100 billion objects being connected through 5G.


    > the ultra-low-power devices hooked up to the "Internet of Things" would need 10Gb/s

    So that the combined power of all these little devices can be focused on denial-of-service attacks at extremely high packet rates.

    As no matter how advanced your technology, a swarm of locusts will always beat you.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    You want Europe to lead Kleiner?

    Convince the telcos to offer decent plan prices over data and offer incentives so they can expand the coverage and add kit to their infrastructure to handle the increase in traffic.

    1. Jamie Jones Silver badge

      Re: You want Europe to lead Kleiner?

      "Convince the telcos to offer decent plan prices over data"

      You've not been to America then?

  3. AndrueC Silver badge

    It's not clear why the ultra-low-power devices hooked up to the "Internet of Things" would need 10Gb/s

    Good, because they won't get it for long. That 10Gb/s will be for the entire cell so the device will be sharing it with anything else in that area. That's the nature of wireless internet and always has been. The proponents do so love to chuck out these large numbers then neglect to mention that what an individual device/user will get depends on:

    * Number of other devices competing for the mast's bandwidth.

    * Distance from mast.

    * Obstructions between them and mast.

    * Weather.

    So at 3am on a lovely evening if your device is sat within 100 metres of the mast you might indeed get 10Gb/s. At 8pm on a wet evening, sat in a house or office in the centre of a city..not so much.

    5G should be better than 4G but neither is going to live up to the hype.

  4. Trollslayer

    What 5G?

    it's 2014 and 4G isn't rolled out yet, nor have many of it's features like voice.

    Yes, voice still has to go over 3G.

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  5. Dr Dre

    Initially the standard will start at 10Gb/s - then gradually get watered down - and then the industry will start selling 5G kit - that, like 4G and LTE, will be nothing of the sort and actually offer about 1Gb/s in perfect conditions.

  6. Paw Bokenfohr


    Be nice if we had 3G coverage in more places and didn't have to fall back to 2G (I'm thinking of you, M40) let alone 4G or thinking about 5G.

    1. Anonymous Coward

      Re: 5G?

      Some of us would like decent 2G coverage 1st....

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